Joe Biden says to the crowd in South Carolina that he is "running for the United States Senate"

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@JoeBiden
says to the crowd in South Carolina that he is "running for the United States Senate" and that if they don't like him they can "vote for the other Biden."

[Hoyt]

1. Would like to see entire speech. I think this is BS.

[Celerity]

72. Hard to take that line out of context, it is what it is

Many will not care, others will. That is what it is as well.

here is the full unedited speech leading up to it

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

79. It is BS...he was was talking bout the first time he ran for the senate...I heard the speech...some

just got to lie.

[squirecam]

2. No one else has ever misspoken.

Ever....

[CentralMass]

17. I like Joe but it is what it is.

[ChubbyStar]

25. How classy of you

[lapfog_1]

31. How classy of all of you.

at least Joe is a decent person.

[ChubbyStar]

34. He is a decent person

I'm quite certain he wouldn't be so glib when talking of death. Have a great night.

[DemocracyMouse]

36. Sending Americans to die in Iraq for the US military industrialists' profits ain't decent

[lapfog_1]

37. Niether is being A rated by the NRA.

[joethedrummer]

38. Who is A Rated by the NRA?

And before you say Bernie Sanders, he has a D-minus NRA rating

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jan/20/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-nra-report-card-d-minus-most-recent/

[Gravitycollapse]

39. You realize no Democratic candidate has an A rating from the NRA, right?

[lapfog_1]

40. wahington post

"The NRA helped elect Bernie Sanders... why won't he admit it?"

(sorry, it's behind a paywall)

[Gravitycollapse]

41. That's a story about his position 30 years ago. He has a D-minus rating from the NRA.

[lapfog_1]

50. would have been nice if 30 years ago he took a stand against guns and gun violence.

[lapucelle]

53. ...

[ehrnst]

58. How long ago did he participate in the March on Washington with MLK?

He sure considers that to be relevant to his civil rights cred... along with endorsing Jesse Jackson for a POTUS run in 1988...

And while Sanders is quick to bring up his 1988 defeat, he rarely mentions his 1990 win, which came with help from the NRA. Soon after Smith took office, the freshman Republican reversed himself and sponsored a bill banning assault weapons. Vermont gun groups were apoplectic and called for his resignation. Throughout the 1990 campaign, Sanders deftly exploited the rift. Though he, too, supported an assault weapons ban, he promised hunters he would always be straight with them. That fall, the NRA spent between $18,000 and $20,000 on anti-Smith ads. “Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than Peter Smith,” NRA executive Wayne LaPierre wrote his members.

Sanders won the race and kept his promise. He was an occasional ally to the NRA, repeatedly voting against the Brady Bill, which mandated waiting periods and background checks; opposing funding for gun violence research; and voting to protect gun manufacturers and retailers from lawsuits.

He also honored his commitment, in 1994, to vote for an assault weapons ban. But as the frequency and severity of mass shootings increased over the next two decades, Sanders continued to maintain that the federal government ought to avoid regulating firearms. “In my view, decisions about gun control should be made as close to home as possible — at the state level,” he said after a July 2012 shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.

In my interview with Sanders after the Sandy Hook shooting, he said it was “more important” to address mental health than the availability of firearms, adding, “This is not one of my major issues.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/07/nra-helped-elect-bernie-sanders-why-wont-he-admit-it/

[zackymilly]

67. I keep reading Sanders' supporters bragging on how Bernie has never changed. n/t

[Butterflylady]

83. Good excuse

Some of the things said or done by Biden were 30 years ago. But I see that doesn't matter when it comes to your guy.

[ehrnst]

56. He's not the only one.... some voted twice, even.

In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted.

Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.

[womanofthehills]

49. All three of the old white guys have stents & Joe has an irregular heartbeat

None of them are in great shape.

[democratisphere]

55. BS lives in the land of make believe trillions of dollars.

[Loki Liesmith]

76. So what is it?

[CentralMass]

91. It was some new campaign technique Joe was trying out.

[JudyM]

94. Just saw a vid of him telling a crowd in SC yesterday he's looking forward to appointing the first

African American woman to the the US Senate. This kind of thing is going to be a problem in the GE.

[LaurenOlimina]

3. *shiver*

[ChubbyStar]

10. This has gone beyond absurd

I feel bad for the man.

[LaurenOlimina]

12. me too.

[Kingofalldems]

71. Oh I see.

[ChubbyStar]

95. Joe looked exhausted in that clip

I felt sorry for him. He is my 2nd choice, nothing nefarious in my observation King.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. Wtf? Come on

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

11. What?! I'd vote for Joe for Senate if I could... just not President!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[madaboutharry]

5. He makes these mistakes because he

is constantly focused on not stuttering. He misspoke like this when he was 30. This kind of criticism is cruel.

[womanofthehills]

51. The statins are not helping - I know so many people who thought they were losing their mind

but it was the statins.

[squirecam]

59. What are you talking about?

Nt

[NoMoreRepugs]

89. No disrespect but I call bullshit. I've been using statins

for many years and am constantly asking questions of my cardiologist about potential side effects, pretty sure I’d remember had she mentioned I’d LOSE MY MIND.

[SDANation]

6. Sweet so we have gotten to the point

In the primary season where we nitpick someone misspeaking. And Shaun King of all people 🤮

[BusyBeingBest]

7. Wouldn't matter in a general election, he and tRump will

simply cancel each other out with gaffes, misspeaks and nonsense words.

[David__77]

8. Now, I suspect that people may view these things through a political lens.

So for instance if Sanders said that, some people might comment critically who won’t in this case. Thems the breaks.

Personally I don’t care about it.

[d_b]

9. he misspoke

keep this type of shit on Hannity

[marybourg]

13. I heard " vote for the other GUY ".

[highplainsdem]

20. That's what I heard, too.

[melman]

14. Not good

Not good at all.

[Jarqui]

15. covfefe nt

[MisterFred]

16. Not an issue for me.

He's old. Like the candidate I support. Some missteps are to be expected.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Bernie's never been cut an inch of slack...but sure, I have no problem givin Joe a pass on this one.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Loki Liesmith]

77. His entire career he's been cut slack

Bernie is a walking participation trophy

[rwheeler31]

19. Everyone knows about the stuttering

this is just ridiculous.

[Polybius]

21. He didn't correct himself either

He didn't realize his mistake.

[highplainsdem]

24. See reply 23 about a gaffe of Warren's last week that she didn't correct.

[highplainsdem]

23. Last week Warren said BUILD Trump when she meant BEAT Trump. There's video of

her saying that, and it was quoted in articles, but NO ONE made a fuss about it because everyone knows how those gaffes happen.

Unless they happen to Biden, in which case a ridiculous fuss is made about it.

Here's my OP about what Warren said, and it barely mentions the little gaffe because it was just a little gaffe.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287533284

[Polybius]

27. Build and beat sound similar

Senate and President do not. Plus she said "We do not build on a foundation of hate" right after. She clearly had "build" on her mind.

[highplainsdem]

28. Excuses, excuses. Biden might've been thinking about past Senate runs. His gaffe was no worse than

hers.

But both the media and Biden haters treat his gaffes and other people's very differently.

Journalists often make gaffes, too, using the wrong word, the wrong name. And they don't usually catch themselves and correct themselves. But people don't make a big deal about that.

Such hypocrisy...

[Polybius]

32. It may be an excuse, but it's a great one

He hasn't ran for the Senate in what, 15 years? When Warren makes "gaffes" all the time, then you can compare the two.

[Polybius]

63. Fine, so here's another fresh new gaffe that he said yesterday

Link to tweet

?s=20

[womanofthehills]

52. What about "lying dog face pony rider"

[Bayard]

26. I read this differently

(I've never been able to get the sound back on DU again). I thought it meant, he's running for the Senate, because if he's the presidential nominee, Dems have a better chance at re-taking the Senate.

The man is still sharp as a tack. I can't believe he would have forgotten what year it is, or what he's running for, when he can reel off statistics at the drop of a hat.

[Mme. Defarge]

29. +1000

[Cha]

42. I bet that's what it is.. I saw

something recently where Biden says BS can't win the Senate back or keep the House.

[Cha]

48. I tagged you here..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=577873

[Bayard]

61. Thanks!

[Autumn]

60. Then who is the other Biden we can vote for?

[WheelWalker]

82. That's EXACTLY how I understood it. It is in the same vein

as the IMPOTUS campaigning for a Republican Congress critter in 2018 saying to the crowd that in the House race they are voting for Trump.

[ibegurpard]

30. Vote for the other Biden?

I assume he is talking about Jill. Kind of a lame dad joke but i don't think that's a concern. As for "running for Senate" he's been running for Senate much of his adult life so seems like an easy thing to slip up on when you've been giving stump speeches for years.

[stonecutter357]

33. I'll take joe over BS anyday !

[SDANation]

35. Overall regardless of where we all stand

This is a flat out disgusting take by a Sanders surrogate. He’s not attacking joe on his policies, he’s insinuating based on Joes age and misspeaking, LIKE EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET DOES, that he is some how in early stages of dementia. It’s disgusting ageism. So I hope all of you clapping along like trained seals, realize once Bernie misspeaks and he will, it’s coming right back at you. So please when that happens don’t scream the media is bias.

[ChubbyStar]

43. Regardless of where we all stand is a cool sentiment

Then followed by a direct insult to DUers calling us trained seals, ah not so much. BTW I haven't seen anyone clapping, seal or human.

[SDANation]

44. If you agree with Shaun king, I stand by my "insult"

[ChubbyStar]

45. Nice dodge

I'll go back to the grown up table now.

[SDANation]

47. So were you at the grown up table when above you said

“I actually feel sorry for the guy”. I didn’t mince my words
If you think Shaun Kings tweet is cool and legit, I stand by my “insult”.

[zackymilly]

66. LOL nt

[Callado119]

46. Imagine trying to make something out of this small gaffe..

..when BS just crapped away FL’s electoral votes in the last 24 hours if we are unlucky enough to have him as the nominee

[Gothmog]

62. Biden was telling a story about the time he ran for Senate, and was quoting himself

Link to tweet

[nolabear]

64. I saw that. It's disgusting how people distort things.

Not the OP, but Shaun King is as bad as they come.

[thesquanderer]

70. Not true. The only distortion was that "he meant to do that" because he was story telling.

Click through to the tweet and listen to the full context. It's exactly what it appears to be, he mis-spoke. And that's okay, we know that's the kind of thing Joe sometimes does. These dishonest attempts to deny it don't help anyone.

[nolabear]

90. I resent being called dishonest.

[thesquanderer]

93. I was calling Matthew Chapman's tweet dishonest.

Maybe my subject line (that started with "Not true" ) threw you? That wasn't aimed at anything you said... I was trying to tell you that the post you were replying to was not true.

[Sunsky]

65. So where's the unedited video?

That verifies what Chapman claims? If it's not produced, then it seems as if Joe misspoke, Chapman is lying and the Reuters story is true. Sometimes it's ok to admit to an error. "To err is human". Without proof Chapman is doing Joe no favors here.

[thesquanderer]

69. re: "Chapman is lying and the Reuters story is true. Sometimes it's ok to admit to an error. "

Yes, that's exactly right.

The video is not altered, merely edited down to the relevant part, and it is fully accurate.

Click through to the tweet and you can even see the full speech, if you want.

Look, Joe is Joe. This stuff is not "disqualifying." But the disingenuous attempts to deny this stuff happens doesn't reflect well on anyone.

[Celerity]

85. here, Chapman is lying, there was no story being told, Biden simply misspoke

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287577519#post73

[Sunsky]

96. Thanks for the video

It was a honest mistake. He was talking about the presidency and the US Senate races, he simply misspoke. It was a great stump speech until that point. I loved when he called Lindsey "former Senator". SC make it happen! That would be a gift to all of us.
I don't know why people believe these candidates are super-human. There was no need for Chapman or any Biden supporter to lie about the events that took place. There is equally no need for Sanders and other candidates and their supporters to use this human error to smear Biden. This is petty as heck and does not reflect well on us. Biden is human, next...

[Celerity]

97. yes, it is no big deal, I just do not like people (NOT you) trying to say things that are not true

[thesquanderer]

68. re: "Biden was telling a story about the time he ran for Senate, and was quoting himself"

No, that's entirely false.

Did you actually even watch the video that you included in that post? Or read the replies to that tweet?

People like Chapman count on people reading/believing headlines without checking for themselves. A lot of misinformation gets spread that way.

[Celerity]

73. Biden was not telling a story, that is not true, he simply misspoke

here is the unedited speech leading up to it

Link to tweet

[treestar]

75. Then it's even more despicable

to make it seem like the OP did.

[Celerity]

98. except there was no 'story', Chapman lied, the entire unedited video of it leading up to

the mispeaking by Biden is up all over this thread

Biden's mispeaking is no big deal at all, I just will always correct untruths like Chapman and others are pushing

[treestar]

74. OH so what

He didn't have a heart attack.

He didn't buy his way in.

He knows what he is running for.

[Vogon_Glory]

80. Joe Biden is prone to malaprops

It’s something that happens when you’re a recovered stutterer. I should know, I have a stuttering problem myself. Most of the time I’m fine, but occasionally the wrong words come out.

You got a problem with that?

[emmaverybo]

81. Only candidate with national security, foreign policy and relations, and military experience.

Also at a time of an intersection between pandemic and potential recession, Joe is the guy with experience in an administration that managed both.

There is no candidate better qualified.

[rzemanfl]

84. NTSA. n/t

[33taw]

86. This is petty crap. We have a crazy fuck running the government and we need to stick together.

Jumping on every blurb that is uttered out of thousands of speeches and comments is nuts.

[True Blue American]

87. 83 posts?

We seem to have a great many newbies.

Welcome.

[wyldwolf]

99. #DirtBagLeft

[True Blue American]

101. Surprise?

[bitterross]

88. FFS, he misspoke. He ran for Senate enough in the past it's understandable.

FFS, that's a line that's burned into his mind from prior campaigns and is a perfectly understandable error. It's not as if he said "I'm running for dog-catcher."

If you want to try to make Biden out as mentally unfit, then let's see Bernie's medical records.

[Celerity]

100. lol, the burning question of the day. Will Americans vote for a democratic socialist dog catcher?

cheers

[PubliusEnigma]

92. Biden will be a fine Nominee. Especially, since he's actually a Democrat.