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RandySF

(58,755 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:33 AM Feb 2020

Republicans already tying downballot Democrats to Sanders

In two separate email blasts by the NRCC, the group questioned if Florida Reps. Donna Shalala (D) and Stephanie Murphy (D) would support a “Castro fanboy.” Both have disavowed Sanders’s comments.

“Does this mean Stephanie Murphy will refuse to support Sanders when he is the nominee? Or will she upset her socialist base instead?” asked Camille Gallo, a spokeswoman for the NRCC.

A GOP strategist pledged that Republicans would use Sanders as an anchor to pull down Democratic Senate hopefuls.

“Right now, Bernie is their front-runner, and socialism doesn’t sell in the Atlanta suburbs, in their Charlotte suburbs and in the Phoenix suburbs,” the GOP strategist said, referring to the Senate races in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.

Sanders, who supports free college education and “Medicare for All,” is already being name-dropped in key Senate races as Republicans try to activate their base. While most of the 24 Senate seats the GOP is defending are in safe Republican states, a handful of key toss-up races are expected to make or break the GOP efforts to hold onto the majority.

Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), appearing with Trump at a Colorado rally last week, pledged that Republicans would fight “socialism.”

“There was a dangerous thing that happened in 2016. It was the normalization of socialism by Bernie Sanders,” he said.

Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) recently called former astronaut Mark Kelly, who is likely to be her Democratic opponent, the “the 51st vote for all of Bernie’s wildest Soviet-style fantasies.”

McSally is running for the final two years of the late Sen. John McCain’s (R) term. Kelly, the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), has distanced himself from the tag, noting that he’s a “capitalist.”







https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484438-gop-casts-sanders-as-2020-boogeyman

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Republicans already tying downballot Democrats to Sanders (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
We're going to see so much of this if Sanders is the nominee. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #1
Sadly, yes. NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #2
Or the made-up dirt the Russians will create. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #20
We have to have a nom who will unite us. Cha Feb 2020 #3
Dyslexics of the world, untie! :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #5
LoL.. I just saw what I did before I Cha Feb 2020 #6
This would be such a nightmare. nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #4
Statistics show otherwise. gab13by13 Feb 2020 #8
You're looking at the polls HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #35
Bernie explained Castro at his town hall last night. gab13by13 Feb 2020 #7
Ok. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #36
53% of Americans will not vote for a Socialist cheezmaka Feb 2020 #9
Max Boot gave his own personal opinion. gab13by13 Feb 2020 #11
The polls have ALL democrat candidates beating Trump cheezmaka Feb 2020 #16
That is only the beginning Hav Feb 2020 #10
Show me a poll that backs up your opinion. gab13by13 Feb 2020 #12
You must be mistaken Hav Feb 2020 #13
Freak out over Bernie ouija Feb 2020 #14
Again, why are you guys so confused about this topic? Hav Feb 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Feb 2020 #18
Bernie-philes need to realize that Democratic victory is Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #27
If Biden is the nominee who will you be voting for Biden or Trump? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #32
BS's 'catastrophic influence on downballot races' - clearcut phrase empedocles Feb 2020 #24
Its a slow moving trainwreck Cosmocat Feb 2020 #17
or a shipwreck... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #19
We told you so. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #21
Hopefully Dem voters in SC and the rest of the caucuses will "wise up"... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #22
The centrist/rational vote is being split too many ways... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #23
I agree... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #37
K Cha Feb 2020 #25
A Sanders nomination is like an Ike jacket Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #26
I'm hearing Mark Kelley evertonfc Feb 2020 #28
It's sad ouija Feb 2020 #29
It will be all kinds of candidates up and down middle America Moderateguy Feb 2020 #34
Republicans always try to tie all Democrats to their demon du jour ibegurpard Feb 2020 #30
Sanders is putting House seats at risk. dalton99a Feb 2020 #31
And so it begins. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #33
Yes, they will vilify any Democratic candidate, but in Bernie's case they don't have to lie maximusveritas Feb 2020 #38
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
1. We're going to see so much of this if Sanders is the nominee.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:36 AM
Feb 2020
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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
2. Sadly, yes.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:11 AM
Feb 2020

It's going to be non-stop - and we don't even know what oppo-research the GOP have dug up that we haven't heard yet.

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Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
20. Or the made-up dirt the Russians will create.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:27 AM
Feb 2020

Last week before early voting started in Texas, an NPR guest claimed that Sanders wanted to nationalize the oil industry and exclaimed how bad that would be for the Texas economy. I don’t think that’s true, at least today, but if Sanders said it years ago, it will be used against everyone now.

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Cha

(297,136 posts)
3. We have to have a nom who will unite us.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:14 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:03 AM - Edit history (1)

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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
5. Dyslexics of the world, untie! :) nt
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:47 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,136 posts)
6. LoL.. I just saw what I did before I
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:06 AM
Feb 2020

read your post and Edited! lol Good one Sloumeau!

I'm laughing.. we have to have a leader who will untie from this monster in the WH!

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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
4. This would be such a nightmare. nt
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:15 AM
Feb 2020
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gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
8. Statistics show otherwise.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:13 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe I'm looking at the wrong stats, can you help me with a link?

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
35. You're looking at the polls
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:50 PM
Feb 2020

Before the GOP drops $2 billion on Bernie’s head. Dukakis was ahead, too. Trump was behind. It doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.

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gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
7. Bernie explained Castro at his town hall last night.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:12 AM
Feb 2020

If people want a political answer instead of a truthful answer then don't vote for Bernie.

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cheezmaka

(737 posts)
9. 53% of Americans will not vote for a Socialist
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:21 AM
Feb 2020

Why do you think many republicans (including Trump) would LOVE to see Sanders as the nominee? I'll vote blue no matter what but we just can't "play into their hands"...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/24/vote-bernie-elect-trump/

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gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
11. Max Boot gave his own personal opinion.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:48 AM
Feb 2020

Max Boot is one man's opinion. Statistics don't back up Boot's opinion. Statistics show Bernie beating Trump.
Show me a poll where Bernie is not beating Trump.

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cheezmaka

(737 posts)
16. The polls have ALL democrat candidates beating Trump
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:18 AM
Feb 2020

That's not the issue. It's about the mentality of moderate and independent voters in addition to who has the "best chance" of beating him. The top 2 were Biden and Sanders for RIGHT NOW. However, if he keeps "branding" himself as a "socialist" and making comments similar to the one about Castro then he not only hurts his own chances in the General Election but those Dems in the House and Senate as well...

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
10. That is only the beginning
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:28 AM
Feb 2020

Every Dem will be put in a position to declare whether they support the "socialist" and his policies. It will be a lose-lose. Even moderate and popular Dems will have to face the "You may like Democrat x, but we need Repub y to prevent the socialist takeover" attack.

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gab13by13

(21,303 posts)
12. Show me a poll that backs up your opinion.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:49 AM
Feb 2020

I can't find 1 poll that shows Bernie losing to Trump.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
13. You must be mistaken
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:56 AM
Feb 2020

I didn't talk about BS against Trump. I talked about his catastrophic influence on downballot races which is the topic of this thread.

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ouija

(397 posts)
14. Freak out over Bernie
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:02 AM
Feb 2020

Joe Biden is a terrible candidate and Trump is far worse to be at the top of the ticket. Besides, if Bernie is the nominee, who you voting for, Trump or Sanders?

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
15. Again, why are you guys so confused about this topic?
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:10 AM
Feb 2020

We are talking about downballot races. What's so hard to understand about that?
I don't know how it can be explained in a simpler terms but this is not about Bernie vs Trump. Try to at least make the effort and read the posts.

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Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
27. Bernie-philes need to realize that Democratic victory is
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:43 AM
Feb 2020

more than capturing the White House. It is also controlling Congress and as many state legislatures as possible.

Bernie-philes have clearly forgotten or never learned the painful lessons many of us moderates learned during the Clinton years and again during the Obama years: just having the White House isn’t enough. We need control of Congress, too, and that’s something I believe that Bernie can’t deliver.

We are electing a President, not a talented vocalist for American Idol. A President needs a team in Congress and the Senate.

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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
32. If Biden is the nominee who will you be voting for Biden or Trump?
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:44 PM
Feb 2020

See it goes both ways

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
24. BS's 'catastrophic influence on downballot races' - clearcut phrase
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:06 AM
Feb 2020
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Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
17. Its a slow moving trainwreck
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:18 AM
Feb 2020

nm

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cheezmaka

(737 posts)
22. Hopefully Dem voters in SC and the rest of the caucuses will "wise up"...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:51 AM
Feb 2020

before it's "too late"...

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. The centrist/rational vote is being split too many ways...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:01 AM
Feb 2020

... giving the advantage to Bernie. (This is how it happened for Trump: too many "normal" republicans splitting the "normal" vote... thus allowing the kooky Trump supporters to propel him into the lead.)

The DNC needs tighter qualification criteria to winnow out the field before we get this far. Also, some requirements on disallowing non-Democrats would be good too.

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cheezmaka

(737 posts)
37. I agree...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020

The vote is STILL split up giving Bernie the advantage. And probably not counting the number of folks that 45 and the GOP has ordered to vote for him in these first few primaries (if that's possible of course). Non-Democrats should DEFINITELY not be allowed in order to avoid this predicament that we're in right now...

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Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
26. A Sanders nomination is like an Ike jacket
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:35 AM
Feb 2020

No coat tails.

As many of us learned when Obama was President, holding the White House wouldn’t be enough: we need control of Congress and of as many state legislatures as possible. Democrats bedazzled by Bernie’s candidacy need to face this unpleasant fact. It’s painful but it’s true.

The irony of Bernie’s candidacy is that his old Socialist Workers buddies understood the role of the party and the candidate better than Bernie and his current followers seem to. Yes, the candidate is important, but his or her role is to grow the strength of the party.

I just don’t see this with a Bernie Sanders candidacy.

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
28. I'm hearing Mark Kelley
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

will refuse and appearance if he is nominee.

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ouija

(397 posts)
29. It's sad
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:41 PM
Feb 2020

But half the posters on DU are making Republican arguments.

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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
34. It will be all kinds of candidates up and down middle America
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:47 PM
Feb 2020

not wanting to be seen with him

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
30. Republicans always try to tie all Democrats to their demon du jour
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

dalton99a

(81,444 posts)
31. Sanders is putting House seats at risk.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:44 PM
Feb 2020

It's plain as day

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maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
38. Yes, they will vilify any Democratic candidate, but in Bernie's case they don't have to lie
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:33 PM
Feb 2020

They can simply repeat what Bernie himself has called himself and promised to do.

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