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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:12 PM Feb 2020

If you don't want Sanders to be the nominee, then encourage your candidate to drop out of the race.

Sanders is leading the race because the moderates are splitting the race amongst several candidates. If you want to prevent Sanders from being the nominee, then there needs to be fewer moderates in the race. There is ZERO reason for Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Steyer to be in the race. Their prospects are non-existent. If Biden doesn't win SC on Saturday, he's toast as well. The leaves Bloomberg as the only moderate left. So if Biden can't get job done, it's up to Bloomberg.

Regardless four of those five moderates need to drop out of the race to consolidate the vote if you want to prevent Bernie from winning the nomination. If Bernie being the nominee truly frightens you, then do the right thing and call on your candidate to drop out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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If you don't want Sanders to be the nominee, then encourage your candidate to drop out of the race. (Original Post) LonePirate Feb 2020 OP
I disagree about Buttigieg democrattotheend Feb 2020 #1
Except he has no path forward anywhere in the South or on Super Tuesday. He's toast. LonePirate Feb 2020 #2
I think voters should make that decision democrattotheend Feb 2020 #7
What voters? The ones who are not voting for him anywhere? LonePirate Feb 2020 #10
So far, he's gotten the second-most votes, I believe democrattotheend Feb 2020 #12
He got trounced in NV. He is trailing badly in SC. He has no chance in any Super Tuesday state. LonePirate Feb 2020 #14
Bloomberg does not have much more of a chance in the GE than Sanders. denem Feb 2020 #3
This discussion is not about the general election but about the primary. LonePirate Feb 2020 #4
Bullshit. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #5
I say they get to decide. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #6
Denying the Antecedent ain't gonna fit on a t-shirt. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #8
You forgot someone on the 0% chance list. Warren Renew Deal Feb 2020 #9
She is not a moderate. LonePirate Feb 2020 #11
So? She is taking up space from someone that has a chance. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #13
Her voters will mostly switch to Sanders but if you insist, then sure, she should drop as well. LonePirate Feb 2020 #15
Warren dropping out may give us a clear cut winner earlier. Kaleva Feb 2020 #16
Which is why I did not mention her in the first post. Some DUers don't seem to grasp that. LonePirate Feb 2020 #17
There is only one candidate left that could stop Bernie and it is not Bloomberg. standingtall Feb 2020 #18
You're assuming that if moderates drop out, their supporters move to another moderate. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #19
Sure, Warren should drop out. She has shown that she is Sanders light question everything Feb 2020 #20
It's up to Biden to clear the moderate lane like Bernie cleared the progressive lane Yavin4 Feb 2020 #21
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
1. I disagree about Buttigieg
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:13 PM
Feb 2020

He won the Iowa caucuses and came very close in New Hampshire. I'd argue he's earned his spot in the race more than anyone else besides Bernie so far. And I would much rather have him as the nominee than Bloomberg, who BTW has only won I think 13 votes and 0 delegates so far.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
2. Except he has no path forward anywhere in the South or on Super Tuesday. He's toast.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
7. I think voters should make that decision
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:26 PM
Feb 2020

Telling him to drop out based on pundits' analysis is ridiculous and undemocratic.

I'm honestly fed up with the media pushing so hard to winnow the field in general, and placing so much outsized importance on the first few states. I get that it's expensive to have embedded reporters covering so many campaigns, so they want the field to narrow, but it's really frustrating and offensive to some of us in later states that the media always makes sure we have two options if that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
10. What voters? The ones who are not voting for him anywhere?
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
12. So far, he's gotten the second-most votes, I believe
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:30 PM
Feb 2020

Of all the candidates in the first three contests.

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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
14. He got trounced in NV. He is trailing badly in SC. He has no chance in any Super Tuesday state.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

But please go on about how much of a chance he has in states which are not 90%+ white.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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denem

(11,045 posts)
3. Bloomberg does not have much more of a chance in the GE than Sanders.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:16 PM
Feb 2020

How many berners will vote for a poster child of 'the billionaire class'?

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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
4. This discussion is not about the general election but about the primary.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
6. I say they get to decide.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Denying the Antecedent ain't gonna fit on a t-shirt.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

Errors in reasoning are human nature.

Learning to avoid them may not be instinctual, but it is worthwhile.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
9. You forgot someone on the 0% chance list. Warren
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:28 PM
Feb 2020

When is she going to finish above 4th outside of Massachusetts?

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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
11. She is not a moderate.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:29 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
13. So? She is taking up space from someone that has a chance.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:31 PM
Feb 2020

And some of her voters will go to Biden and Buttigieg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
15. Her voters will mostly switch to Sanders but if you insist, then sure, she should drop as well.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
16. Warren dropping out may give us a clear cut winner earlier.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:35 PM
Feb 2020

My guess is that many of her supporters will go to Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
17. Which is why I did not mention her in the first post. Some DUers don't seem to grasp that.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
18. There is only one candidate left that could stop Bernie and it is not Bloomberg.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:06 PM
Feb 2020

If Biden does not win South Carolina then this race is over and even he does win and gets momentum back Bloomberg will probably stay in the race taking away votes from Biden ensuring Bernie the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
19. You're assuming that if moderates drop out, their supporters move to another moderate.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:35 PM
Feb 2020

But people don't necessarily vote in "lanes," lots of things influence their decision. And if you look at how the first and final alignments in the Nevada caucus lined up, you'll see that many votes that went to non-viable moderates in the first alignment moved to Sanders in the final alignment, rather than moving to another viable moderate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,465 posts)
20. Sure, Warren should drop out. She has shown that she is Sanders light
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:38 PM
Feb 2020

so why vote for her when the Sanderistas can get the real thing?

She has the same freebies programs with no way of showing how to pay for them.

Is she now for Medicare for all or not? Hard to keep up.

And why go after Bloomberg and not after Sanders?

And some of us did not appreciate her shouting and taking control of the last two debates. Did not seem to have helped her in Nevada.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Yavin4

(35,432 posts)
21. It's up to Biden to clear the moderate lane like Bernie cleared the progressive lane
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:58 PM
Feb 2020

That's the problem. The former VP of the United States is battling an unknown mayor from a small town in a small state and a little known senator from MN.

His inability to clear the moderate lane is the real story of this campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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