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WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SHOULD HAVE SAID ABOUT SOCIALISM AND TOTALITARIANISM IN CUBA
(sorry for the all-caps, it's The New Yorker's headline)
By Masha Gessen February 25, 2020
There are two ways to misinterpret the comments Bernie Sanders made in a 60 Minutes interview that aired on Sunday night. When asked by the host, Anderson Cooper, to explain his long-ago praise of the achievements of Fidel Castros regime, in Cuba, Sanders said, We are very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba. But, you know, its unfair to simply say, Everything is bad. When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing, even though Fidel Castro did it?
One way to spin these statements is to say that Sanders has finally been exposed as the socialist bogeyman that President Donald Trump and the Democratic contender Michael Bloomberg have been invoking, and that, if elected, Sanders will destroy the American way of life in favor of Soviet-style totalitarianism. This was the predictable reaction from the right. The predictable corollary from the left was to say, in effect, that Sanders is right: Cuba has the best education record in Latin America, and universal health care, too.
And then there was a third reaction. The writer Ana Simo responded to the interview with a two-word comment on Facebook: Moral stupidity. Another writer, Achy Obejas, commented, .?.?. And there goes Florida .?.?. Halfway across the world, the artist Tania Bruguera got off a plane in Milan, where she is mounting a show, and told me by phone that she saw the news and thought, Oh, my God.
These were not expressions of glee. None of these artists is a right-wing ideologueall three are outspoken progressives, out lesbians, and potential Sanders voters. All three are also Cuban. Simo fled Castros homophobic purges as a young woman, in the late sixties, landed in Paris, and later moved to New York. Bruguera divides her time between New York, international travel, and Havana, where her work has been censored and she has been arrested for her art and her activism. Obejas came to the United States with her parents when she was a child, in 1962. She told me on the phone that she doesnt call herself a socialist, though her political beliefs probably fit the label. But, she said, Its quite another thing to consider voting for someone who thinks that a place that caused my parents so much pain is not just O.K. but exemplary in some ways.
One way to spin these statements is to say that Sanders has finally been exposed as the socialist bogeyman that President Donald Trump and the Democratic contender Michael Bloomberg have been invoking, and that, if elected, Sanders will destroy the American way of life in favor of Soviet-style totalitarianism. This was the predictable reaction from the right. The predictable corollary from the left was to say, in effect, that Sanders is right: Cuba has the best education record in Latin America, and universal health care, too.
And then there was a third reaction. The writer Ana Simo responded to the interview with a two-word comment on Facebook: Moral stupidity. Another writer, Achy Obejas, commented, .?.?. And there goes Florida .?.?. Halfway across the world, the artist Tania Bruguera got off a plane in Milan, where she is mounting a show, and told me by phone that she saw the news and thought, Oh, my God.
These were not expressions of glee. None of these artists is a right-wing ideologueall three are outspoken progressives, out lesbians, and potential Sanders voters. All three are also Cuban. Simo fled Castros homophobic purges as a young woman, in the late sixties, landed in Paris, and later moved to New York. Bruguera divides her time between New York, international travel, and Havana, where her work has been censored and she has been arrested for her art and her activism. Obejas came to the United States with her parents when she was a child, in 1962. She told me on the phone that she doesnt call herself a socialist, though her political beliefs probably fit the label. But, she said, Its quite another thing to consider voting for someone who thinks that a place that caused my parents so much pain is not just O.K. but exemplary in some ways.
LOTS more here:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/what-bernie-sanders-should-have-said-about-socialism-and-totalitarianism-in-cuba
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WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SHOULD HAVE SAID ABOUT SOCIALISM AND TOTALITARIANISM IN CUBA (Original Post)
George II
Feb 2020
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Magoo48
(4,709 posts)1. What does Joe have to say about US relations with Cuba past and present?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)3. I'm sure he never praised Castro while they were in the midst of rounding up journalists....
....and dissidents and conducting mass executions of Cubans.
You could go to his next Town Hall and ask him.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Magoo48
(4,709 posts)6. I didn't ask what he didn't do.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)2. He simply doesn't have the "chops" to be the leader of the free world.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)4. When Masha Gessen talks, I listen
Thanks for posting this.
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denem
(11,045 posts)5. Devastating.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)7. Washington post Castro was a spiritual beacon
when he died. Does everyone agree? They eventually changed the headline but really lets see who can name democrats who have been critical of castro over the last 30 years.
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George II
(67,782 posts)8. Not being critical is one thing, praising is another.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden