My Gawd You Are Attacking Bernie With What? Really?

[DanieRains]

Bernie said 1% of what Castro did wasn't horrible, and it is like the end of the world.

God Help Us. Bernie stop saying things that are actually true. We need to make demagogues out of every single thing that doesn't prove the USA is the greatest country in the entire universe, and our poop doesn't ever stink. America First, Second, Third, and Fourth all at once!!!!! Get with the program Bernie.

Maybe if Cuba wasn't hosting so many corrupt Americans, and the mob there would have never been a Castro, ya think?

I guess Cubans didn't like our mafia running their country, and chose a horrible solution. Fidel. Look at all the rich Cubans who were making $$$$ off the gambling, drugs, and prostitution that had to flee. It's not like they lived in a democracy ran by the rule of the people.

I am no Cuba expert but the poor there were being treated like crap before "The Revolution" according to what I have seen in documentaries.

"Things" are a little more complicated than a regular American's brain can comprehend. Most folks here don't even know the difference between communism, and socialism. They pay too much attention to the Sarah Palin's of the world. Being a stupid lemming is celebrated on the Republican side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

Read up if you want to see what America was up to. Pretty sad.

[uponit7771]

1. True, attack Sanders luke warm at best swing state numbers vs Trump in the last 3 months. The only

... candidate that best Trump outside the MOE is Biden.

[bluewater]

7. That's in ONE NBC/WSJ Poll, RCP POLLS shows all the Dems doing well against Trump

head to head in those battleground states.

Sanders is killing Trump in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan, as just one example.


You keep pushing the results from the one NBC/WSJ poll as if that's the only poll out there.

We all know that multiple polls should be averaged together to get a truer result.

[uponit7771]

8. This is false, RCP and 538 swing state averages has him doing worse outside of MI

PA - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_sanders-6862.html (3% MOE)
MI - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_sanders-6768.html (5% outside MOE)
OH - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/ohio/ (within MOE)

[bluewater]

10. Provide a link then please so we can all see the actual results for ourselves.

I would love to see what numbers you are talking about so we can discuss the details.

[uponit7771]

11. Done, for some reason RCP didn't have but 2 lniks for Ohio

[bluewater]

13. The results show ALL the Dems doing well versus Trump.

lets look at Pennsylvania for example:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/Pennsylvania.html

All the Dems beat or tie Trump.

There are not that many Polls.

And finally, Biden was outside the MOE in only ONE of the two Pennsylvania Polls and in fact Biden was only at +1 in the other poll!


So, I think I have made my point that you are basing waaaay too much on that ONE NBC/WSJ poll.

Looking at multiple polls ate RCP POLLS paints quite a different picture.

Enjoy your evening.

The debate is about to start!

[uponit7771]

14. They are within margin of error that loses with a incumbent, that's not good

Biden is outside the margin of error

[stonecutter357]

2. Is this Ok ?

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287574113

[DanieRains]

4. Yer Right Fiction Writers Should All Be Locked Up And Blocked From All Government Positions

Especially ones that write about sex.

If I was Trump I would want to avoid all the sex stuff.

Just think, for every woman that claimed Trump attacked them, there are 20 who got paid off, or scared off and kept it to themselves.

[guillaumeb]

6. Only if Fidel Castro was a part of the fantasy.

[DanieRains]

3. Cuba Before Castro

"Back in power, and receiving financial, military, and logistical support from the United States government,[7][8] Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Eventually it reached the point where most of the sugar industry was in U.S. hands, and foreigners owned 70% of the arable land.[10] As such, Batista's repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with both the American Mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large U.S.-based multinational companies who were awarded lucrative contracts."

From Wikipedia

I am no Castro fan. He belonged at the Hague for killing and torturing thousands, with a lot of other people. Like a whole bunch of our banksters.

[mopinko]

9. the bacardi family is one of the most evil oligarchs in our country.

they made their fortune in cuban rum.
trouble is, bernie could have given a great historical perspective on cuba, what it was like, why they elevated castro, why that was a mistake, and how to go forward from here.
i guess that might have caused him to have to tip his hat to obama, and we know he wouldnt like to do that.
might have even caused him to reflect a bit about just how on track his own "revolution" is, and what happens when your army is full of thugs.

[rzemanfl]

5. NTSA. n/t