This crowd is so hostile to Bernie. Biden packed the room. #DemDebate2020 -Krystal Ball

[octoberlib]

Link to tweet

No, Krystal it's the Democratic base in a diverse state.

[Happyhippychick]

1. That's because he isn't doing well and he knows it

He's so beet red I'm afraid for his health

[sheshe2]

14. Lots of makeup.

[DENVERPOPS]

76. No kidding..........

I watch him, and I keep thinking he's gonna have an aneurism or massive MI right there on the stage......

[Me.]

2. Maybe They Just Don't Like Him

but hey the Berners always need someone to blame

[question everything]

3. +1

[spooky3]

4. I think they don't like what he's saying. nt

[Cha]

13. Krystal Ball is a CT.. she said Nancy had the

senate hearings to hurt BS.. now here she is again.

[Me.]

17. She's In It For Whatever Money She Can Get Out Of It

see how fast she dropped Tim Ryan after he failed to get rid of Nancy. No money for People's Project, where she is apparently the only 'people'.

[Cha]

22. Disgraceful!

[ehrnst]

75. She was pushing that RW GOP talking point? Who's she working for, again?

[SunSeeker]

101. Yup. Per Democratic Party spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa:

Link to tweet

[whathehell]

127. What in hell is a ''CT"?

[Cha]

128. look it up

[whathehell]

133. Where?

The only 'CT" I know is a CT scan which.doesn't exactly make sense.

[Cha]

135. omg.. google

[Cha]

138. you don't know what you're talking about.

[whathehell]

139. How.about a dictionary? Or is it too misogynistic and ugly

for that?

[Cha]

142. It's Conspiracy Theory.. just what are you accusing me of?

[George II]

155. I live in CT. "CT" in this context is "Conspiracy theorist".

[whathehell]

156. Yeah, she told me already

just too late to avoid a musunderstanding.

[Cha]

161. Sorry about that.. I had no idea it

could be taken any other way.

[whathehell]

166. No problem..

Shit happens.

[Cha]

171. It most certanly does.. thank you.

[Cha]

162. Mahalo, George!

[lapucelle]

159. Connecticut, cat scan, conspiracy theorist...

Only one of those words/expressions fits this context.

[Cha]

163. lol

cat scan.. Mahalo, lapucelle!

[whathehell]

167. Um, the OP and I have already resolved this.

so now might be a good time to give it a rest, if you get my drift

That said, I've seen "ct" used as an abbreviation for the "c word", so no, those are not "the only words or expressions" that could "fit the context" . Have a nice day.

[lapucelle]

169. Um...

[whathehell]

170. Um, no

I' won't tell Hillary what to say.

[NurseJackie]

168. She must certainly is. Not a critical-thinking brain in her head...

... she'll fall for anything.

[Cha]

172. I think she makes it up as

she goes along.

Mahalo, Jackie!

[Farmer-Rick]

82. That's just hate talking

Just how shorty Putin wants you to feel....

[Cha]

109. Actually putin has nothing to do with this.. bS got Booed for

his Castro praise for one thing.

[Farmer-Rick]

119. Don't get so sucked into the hate that you can't see our goal

Who ever our Democratic nomiminee is...He must crush Trump.

[Cha]

120. Don't tell me I'm "sucked into hate".. I'm only

interested in talking about reality.

[whathehell]

140. You're violating DU terms of service by using sexist slurs

on women you don't like -- That IS hate and trying to slip it in with.'abbreviatios' doesn't help.

[Cha]

141. What are you talking about?

[whathehell]

143. The original question -- which you seemed loathe to answer --

What are YOU talking about?

[Cha]

145. Conspiracy Theorist.. CT

Krystal Ball is a Conspiracy Theorist.. she said Nancy Pelosi was having the Senate Hearings to hurt Sanders.

CT are the initials for Conspiracy Theorist.

[whathehell]

149. Uh huh, and you could have saved a lot of time by

answering the question at the beginning...Just a thought.

[Cha]

146. I'm not "violating" anything..you're jumping to your own

conclusions.

[whathehell]

132. Yes, and however much we may "hate" a woman,

or a minority, for that matter, sexist & racial slurs violate DU terms of service.

[Cha]

144. I'll spell it out for those who don't know what they're talking

about.. Krystal Ball is a Conspiracy Theorist.. she said Nancy Pelosi was having the Senate Hearings to hurt Sanders.

CT are the initials for Conspiracy Theorist.

[whathehell]

147. Um, no, you need to "spell it out" when people don't know

what YOU are talking about...Just sayin'.

[Cha]

148. I couldn't imagine anyone would think

that. I would never in my life say anything like that.

[whathehell]

150. We don't all "know" each other that well.on a board like this

It's the nature of it.

[LakeArenal]

153. We all know Cha. Just saying.

You could have saved a lot of time Googling

[whathehell]

154. No..We all don't.

She made the statement -- Why couldn't she just a clarify it, as asked?

She could have saved time as well as irritation at being misunderstood.

[LakeArenal]

157. Sure. You bet.

[whathehell]

158. Right at ya!

[Cha]

165. Gracias Lake Arenal!

I couldn't imagine what they were talking about. I saw someone on DU awhile ago Using "CT" for what it turns out to have been Conspiracy Theory so I started using the initials.

Never had any problem until yesterday!

Aloha, mi amiga

[msongs]

5. poor bernie, so persecuted nt

[sheshe2]

30. Nooooo..............

[Anon-C]

6. I don't practice Sanderia...

...I don't want no Krystal Ball...

[Clash City Rocker]

9. Nice

[Vdizzle]

37. What can I say.

That’s just so sublime.

[ehrnst]

52. .....

[sheshe2]

80. ...

[SunSeeker]

89. LOL

[sheshe2]

91. ...

[Democrats Ascendant]

59. Epic!

[lapfog_1]

64. hey, if you change your mind about Sanderia

[Anon-C]

66. OMG!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

104. Good one

[squirecam]

7. Maybe just answer the question asked

And not pivot to trade deal votes, if you don’t want to get booed for dodging.

[sheshe2]

32. Bingo!

[Just_Vote_Dem]

8. Bernie actually admitted he made a bad vote

I give him some props for that

[octoberlib]

25. I do, too , actually.

[SunSeeker]

38. But he still supports the PLCAA, which gives gun manufacturers special immunity.

He just recently again defended the PLCAA, an NRA-pushed gun immunity law that passed with the help of Bernie's vote in 2005. The vast majority of Democrats voted against the PLCAA.
But for the PLCAA, assault rifle manufacturers would have been sued into bankruptcy, regardless of the expiration of the AR Ban in 2004. If Bernie really wanted to get rid of ARs, he'd work to repeal the PLCAA, or at least stop defending the PLCAA.

[Cha]

10. Haha, Krystal..

always has CT.. she said Nancy had the Impeachment Senate hearings to hurt BS.

[nolabear]

11. Oh brother. 🙄

[PatSeg]

12. Seriously???

[DanTex]

15. Aha. This makes sense.

Link to tweet

https://www.live5news.com/2020/02/06/charleston-voters-express-confusion-frustration-over-presidential-debate-accessibility/

[David__77]

19. Was just gonna post that link.

https://www.live5news.com/2020/02/06/charleston-voters-express-confusion-frustration-over-presidential-debate-accessibility/

I’ve wondered about that before.

[gab13by13]

43. So the audience was rigged?

This will backfire on the establishment.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

20. No chance that they're booing because they don't like what he said?

OK

[Blue_true]

73. COMEON! Give victims some room. When Bernie gets exposed, there is always some grand conspiracy,

and money greased palms, and the seats are full of fatcats.

[Mariana]

44. Wow, I had no idea it cost so much to attend this debate.

"This is something that the average person doesn’t usually get to go to," Condon said.

That explains a lot.

[sheshe2]

79. The average American can't afford the time or money for plane fair.

That is why we have TV. It was broadcast to millions on a local station.

Mariana
44. Wow, I had no idea it cost so much to attend this debate.

"This is something that the average person doesn’t usually get to go to," Condon said.

That explains a lot.

All ya had to do is watch.

[ehrnst]

56. Because of course it wasn't because Bernie had a bad night...

Not POSSIBLE...



BTW - each candidate had the same number of tickets...

[Cha]

108. BS didn't take it well.. he got booed on his Castro

praise for one thing.. but tell me.. how does he react when his supporters Boo other candidates?

[SunSeeker]

90. Candidates got the same amount of tickets.

A spokesperson for the party denied on Twitter that campaigns had stacked the room.

“Candidates get the same amount of tickets,” Xochitl Hinojosa wrote. “No one is packing the debate hall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/did-bloomberg-campaign-stack-debate-audience-with-supporters/?outputType=amp

[scipan]

125. But it was something like 15 tickets each.

The rest were given to debate organizers and sold for $1750+ apiece. Nothing I read precludes Bloomberg or someone else buying them to pack the audience.

Edit: Simone Sanders, with the Biden campaign, said 35 tickets, not 15.

[SunSeeker]

152. Not enough of the $1750 sponsor tickets were available to pack an audience.

This ticket system was the same one used in all of the other Dem debates. And those that were being "sold" were actually intended for sponsors of the debate and included multiple events. There were only 400 seats in the venue, and each candidate got 35 free tickets. That's 245 seats filled right there alone. Then media, sponsors, local VIPs, etc. got the rest.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/were-demdebate-tickets-sold-for-1750-to-3200/

Edited to add link to brooklynite's excellent ticket breakdown here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=587005

Maybe, just maybe, some of the things Bernie said were over the line, like the obviously incorrect claim that Bloomberg is only supported by billionaires. That deserved the booing it got. I was offended by that, and I'm not even a Bloomberg supporter. Plus, this was a South Carolina crowd, not a Bernie bastion like New Hampshire.

[Sapient Donkey]

174. I don't like the booing at all during the primary debates, buuuut

that line from Sanders in which he said Bloomberg was only supported by billionaires did seem like one of the legitimate times for the boos. I cringed for Bernie when he said that.

[sheshe2]

16. Krystal Ball.

[ehrnst]

58. ....

[tishaLA]

18. LOL and in another thread people are saying El Bloiombito did

But thanks for the update on the tweet from the fired MSNBC host.

[SCantiGOP]

26. El Bloiombito?

No idea who you are talking about.

[tishaLA]

31. From a parody twitter account

Lots of folks use the platform.

https://twitter.com/ElBloombito?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[democrattotheend]

21. I read something on twitter

About how people had to pay $1800 to get a seat in the audience. If so that's pretty messed up. I'm not usually one to believe "it's rigged against Bernie" conspiracies (even when I supported him in 2016), but if this is true it seems pretty intentional to keep Bernie from getting a lot of applause.

[highplainsdem]

28. The Charleston County Democratic Party was raising money off the debate. People had to pay for

sponsorships.

https://www.live5news.com/2020/02/06/charleston-voters-express-confusion-frustration-over-presidential-debate-accessibility/

Apparently some tickets were distributed to the campaigns, but it doesn't sound like any campaign got a chance to buy most of the tickets.

[Renew Deal]

23. They seem to like Bloomberg too

[MoonlitKnight]

24. Looks like Bloomberg paid a few people to attend as well

[evertonfc]

27. grow a spine

Who gives a shit. Your not entitled to a damn adoring room every debate

[peggysue2]

33. LOL!!

Tell it like it is, evertonfc.

[melman]

29. Note that tickets to get in start at $1750.00

[SunSeeker]

92. Note that each candidate got the same amount of tickets.

A spokesperson for the party denied on Twitter that campaigns had stacked the room.

“Candidates get the same amount of tickets,” Xochitl Hinojosa wrote. “No one is packing the debate hall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/did-bloomberg-campaign-stack-debate-audience-with-supporters/?outputType=amp

[melman]

96. NYT: With Tickets $1,750, Debate Audiences Are Elite of the Elite. But That's Not New.

Getting into one of the Democratic debates is like getting a ticket to the Super Bowl or the World Series.

Ordinary Americans don’t just walk up to the window and buy a seat for $28.50. Often, they got one free from someone important — like one of the candidates (who are each allotted an equal number of seats), a Democratic Party official or someone who works for the news network hosting the debate.

And then there are the seats available for sale. The state and local parties that help organize the debates offer the option for people interested in attending to “sponsor” the debate. This was the case tonight in Charleston, S.C., as it has been in other debates over the last seven months.

The Charleston County Democratic Party offered sponsorship options ranging from $1,750 to $3,200, which included admission to the debate as well as access to other gatherings surrounding the event, according to a local news station, WCSC. “This is something that the average person doesn’t usually get to go to,” the station quoted the county party chair as saying.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/us/politics/south-carolina-debate-audience.html#click=https://t.co/fbSb5uK3s9

[SunSeeker]

99. Each candidate got the same amount of tickets. Bernie has "elites" too.

As your excerpt notes, the ticket sales/distribution rules have been the case for all of the debates over the last 7 months. Maybe, just maybe, Bernie had a bad night.

[ehrnst]

118. Um... that's why they televise them, so anyone can watch.

[George II]

122. If you read the NY Times article from the beginning, you would have seen the third sentence:

...they got one free from someone important — like one of the candidates (who are each allotted an equal number of seats), a Democratic Party official or someone who works for the news network hosting the debate.

Tickets to get in start at $0.00

Two paragraphs later is the reference to $1,750, which is for much more than just the debate:

The Charleston County Democratic Party offered sponsorship options ranging from $1,750 to $3,200, which included admission to the debate as well as access to other gatherings surrounding the event

[dawg day]

34. They laughed and applauded at his joke about being in the lead.

I'm not getting any serious animus.

[mysteryowl]

35. I guess the tickets to attend are $2000 - $3200 each!

Guess who can attend?

[Maru Kitteh]

36. wah wah wah - everything is a conspiracy against Bernie. It's always

somebody else's fault.


Krystal needs to find her grown-up pants.

[MontanaMama]

71. Yup.

[brooklynite]

39. Krystal knows that every candidate gets the same allotment of tickets.

[yaesu]

40. What I understand is that the seats cost as much as $3200 so the audience is probably upper

incomers that aren't too likely to be Bernie supporters.

[ehrnst]

77. All the candidates had the same # of tickets, so that doesn't fly. (nt)

[octoberlib]

112. Every campaign got the same amount of tickets to distribute. If I had to guess since Bernie was

booed when he mentioned Billionaires, they were loud Bloomberg supporters.

[Moderateguy]

41. I guess it is news to Krystal Ball that Bernie is NOT universally beloved

[LizBeth]

42. It never ends

[mcar]

45. Oh you poor dear

[Sloumeau]

46. Biden is leading the polls in SC. It should surpise noone that the audience should lean toward Biden

Krystal Ball is getting into conspiracy theories, I see.

[mzmolly]

60. Exactly.

We will hear soon how the “establishment” is to blame.

[mtron32]

87. That'd make sense if they weren't hanging on Bloomberg's every word

They even laughed at his lame joke, he made Amy look like Dave Chappelle

[SunSeeker]

102. NOBODY laughed at Bloomberg's jokes. His jokes fell flat.

Bloomberg has no sense of comic timing. I agree, he made Amy look like Dave Chappelle.

And no candidate packed the room.

A spokesperson for the party denied on Twitter that campaigns had stacked the room.

“Candidates get the same amount of tickets,” Xochitl Hinojosa wrote. “No one is packing the debate hall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/did-bloomberg-campaign-stack-debate-audience-with-supporters/?outputType=amp

Link to tweet

[DaDeacon]

47. Uh Oh....

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21153769/south-carolina-democratic-debate-tickets

The apparent support for Bloomberg from the crowd raised questions about whether there was an outsize presence of his supporters in the audience, given the extensive cheers he seemed to garner at the event compared to the one that took place in Nevada. Speculation on Twitter was only amplified by a local news article that went viral, which claimed tickets started at a whopping $1,750 to $3,200 for donors looking to sponsor a package of events, including the debate. An update was later published to indicate that these ticket options were removed from the Charleston County Democrats’ website.

[squirecam]

48. They didn't laugh at his

Awful jokes. He didn’t buy the room.

How about just admitting Bernie had a bad outing.

[ehrnst]

51. +1000.

[DaDeacon]

61. Sure maybe OR ...

The facts seem to suggest this crowd may have has a little bias. We'll see how the votes go right.

[squirecam]

67. Maybe Bernie

Can scream “really?” At them after They vote.

[DaDeacon]

72. LOL, I love it...

Joe may win first in SC but more than likely Sanders will be second and STILL be first in delegates going into Super Tues. good luck to all the wonderful candidates I know they all can beat Trump!

[SunSeeker]

95. ...

[greenjar_01]

106. Spreading disinformation is harmful to democracy

people shouldn't play the disinformation game of tyrants and autocrats.

[ehrnst]

49. Oh, Krystal....

[LizBeth]

50. I heard a staffer, Nina maybe now put out a complaint about people being paid to boo Sanders. Lol

Did Sanders really look at crowd and say, Really? Really?

Lol

[ehrnst]

54. Nina must be beside herself.

[LizBeth]

57. It is just funny to me. I want to see the video of him saying, Really? to the audience.

[ehrnst]

62. For someone used to being in a room with staff that never disagrees with him

that must have been disconcerting...

[LizBeth]

68. Totally. Maybe that is why I giggle so.

[W_HAMILTON]

93. Here you go:

It is the entire exchange, so not selectively edited like some campaigns are known to do in order to mislead people:

Link to tweet

The booing and Sanders's ridiculous response is around the 00:26 mark.

[LizBeth]

98. Very interesting. I do not have tv and I get agitated watching these things.

I appreciate you providing this for me.

[octoberlib]

114. Considering Sanders supporters boo other Democratic politicians and civil rights leaders

regularly, this is highly ironic.

[Cha]

115. REALLY.. OK for me but Not for thee

[MyNameGoesHere]

53. Oh this is good to know. Russia isn't rigging it, it's Americans.

Let me guess. That evil DNC, which hasn't been renamed INC for the Independent Senator from Vermont.

[mzmolly]

55. : /

[Blue_true]

63. No Krystal. Bernie has met the real world. nt

[Gothmog]

65. Each candidate had the same number of tickets

People are simply tired of sanders

[TheSocialDem]

85. How do you know this?

[SunSeeker]

97. WaPo reported that is what the party said.

A spokesperson for the party denied on Twitter that campaigns had stacked the room.

“Candidates get the same amount of tickets,” Xochitl Hinojosa wrote. “No one is packing the debate hall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/did-bloomberg-campaign-stack-debate-audience-with-supporters/?outputType=amp

[Gothmog]

103. No one had to pay anyone to boo sanders

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

100. LOL. I trust the DNC and facts

Link to tweet

[greenjar_01]

107. When some groups don't like the news, they just call it fake news

The parallels are astonishing and terrifying.

Will we have to choose between two autocratic cults?

[Callado119]

69. Ball is a deranged conspiracy theorist..

...BS and trump seem to attack these types like flies to dog poop..

[stonecutter357]

70. lol Bernie is not a victim !

[MisterFred]

81. Democratic base? LOLOL. Tickets cost $1750. nt

[TheSocialDem]

83. Ridiculous

[snot]

86. And that was the MINIMUM ticket price.

[TheSocialDem]

84. How much were tickets???

[TwilightZone]

131. Most were free.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287587060

[SunSeeker]

88. Wrong, Krystal. No candidate packed the room.

A spokesperson for the party denied on Twitter that campaigns had stacked the room.

“Candidates get the same amount of tickets,” Xochitl Hinojosa wrote. “No one is packing the debate hall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/did-bloomberg-campaign-stack-debate-audience-with-supporters/?outputType=amp

[greenjar_01]

105. "All the cameras and files..."

"...all the paranoid style..."

[Dem4Life1102]

110. Ball is a crack pot

Completely deranged.

[Mr. Sparkle]

111. Krystal is on CNN this morning and looks like she sucked a lemon.

btw, her parents naming her Krystal, must of been taking the piss.

[Cha]

116. Good

[blue-wave]

113. Geez, enough of the

Sounds to me like Krystal might be a little worried about Joe's momentum. No one packed the room. They just liked Joe.

[NurseJackie]

121. Did she have cruel parents? Or is that her self-chosen "stage name"?

I can't take her seriously.

How about: Eileen Dover. Linda Hand. Ima Rose. Cherry Pitts. Claire Annette Reed.

[apcalc]

134. Maybe Krystal Ballbuster???

[roody]

123. Tickets started at $1750.00.

[TwilightZone]

130. Nope, most were free.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287587060

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

126. As it turns out, most of the tickets were free.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287587060

[Cha]

129. there goes their big talking point.

[bluedye33139]

136. John Solomon's protege is pushing hard

Solomon hired her and the other Hill TV guy and they worked together as a team until Solomon was unceremoniously removed for his wicked deeds.

She is like John Solomon without the charm.

None of her work at the Hill has a discussion board, as they hide her behind glass for reasons unknown.

[emmaverybo]

151. Biden side had 35 tickets.

[NurseJackie]

160. She should be fired.

[David__77]

164. Love her. Ball for Senate!

...

[Cha]

175. uh huh

[Sapient Donkey]

173. I did find the amount of cheers bloomberg got to be was kinda strange

And the jeering in general seemed weird. I didn't think it was Biden or the DNC that did it, but rather somehow Bloomberg managed get his people to pack it. Although, it was just a passing thought and not something I really gave any serious consideration (and still don't)