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tritsofme

(17,375 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:26 AM Feb 2020

Joe Biden's the only Democrat who can stop Sanders

Josh Kraushaar
...The Biden comeback playbook would look something like this: First, win South Carolina, where he’s leading in all public polls by varying margins. A South Carolina victory would underscore Biden’s abiding support among African-American voters, who will be playing a critical role in the subsequent Super Tuesday contests. If demographics is destiny, Biden would have a fighting chance to win the six Southern contests on March 3, in states ranging from Alabama to Texas to Virginia. That outcome would cement him as the leading moderate alternative, potentially forcing other challengers to drop out.

The map would look a lot friendlier for Biden if he’s able to survive Super Tuesday. Florida, which holds its delegate-rich primary on March 17, is a state where Sanders is unusually vulnerable. His consistently weak support among seniors, his criticism of Israel, and his recent comments defending parts of Fidel Castro’s communist record would suggest he’d suffer an embarrassing defeat. He’s only at 17 percent in the statewide polling average, all conducted before his latest string of gaffes.

Biden would also be well-positioned to win the critical battleground of Arizona that same day. In a Democratic electorate filled with seniors and college-educated suburbanites, Sanders would face an uphill battle. He’d need to mobilize Hispanic voters, who overwhelmingly supported him in Nevada, to counter the unfavorable demographic realities in the state. He won only 41 percent of the vote there against Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primary, a sign of fundamental weakness with key voting groups.

The next week, Georgia is the only state holding a primary. With one of the largest African-American voting blocs in the country, it would offer Biden an opportunity for a narrative-changing landslide victory—if he’s able to make the race a one-on-one contest by then.

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/704925?unlock=MT28PMHWI02UAXOG

It sure is looking that way.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Joe Biden's the only Democrat who can stop Sanders (Original Post) tritsofme Feb 2020 OP
To do that he needs Warren to stay in blm Feb 2020 #1
If she doesn't win a single state on Super Tuesday squirecam Feb 2020 #6
Amy should get out too. tritsofme Feb 2020 #7
Is Warren going to win Massachusetts? squirecam Feb 2020 #13
It wouldn't be impressive even if she won. tritsofme Feb 2020 #17
She could in a brokered convention, if they seek a compromise candidate. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #20
I tell you one thing, a Sanders/Biden battle looks much better than a Sanders/Bloomberg battle. nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #2
+100000000 Celerity Feb 2020 #8
+infinity Amishman Feb 2020 #16
What if the accurate post title should be SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #3
😆 Moderateguy Feb 2020 #4
then we need to talk about your definition of 'accurate' nt Celerity Feb 2020 #9
your title contains a factual error :-) nt msongs Feb 2020 #10
Biden dominated the 2/25 debate. An SC win will continue his momentum. oasis Feb 2020 #5
Biden did not dominate the debate tonight. OliverQ Feb 2020 #12
On Chris Cuomo's CNN hour, SC's own Bakari Sellers said Joe would oasis Feb 2020 #14
If he does then he deserves it. ramen Feb 2020 #19
....but now you have entered SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #23
We certainly need someone in the general election with big coattails. So, if it's Biden... Beartracks Feb 2020 #11
+1 mdelaguna Feb 2020 #28
Strong prediction fallout87 Feb 2020 #15
Biden doesn't have a chance unless Pete & Amy drop out before Super Tuesday Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #18
with whose money? dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #21
If the SC/Super Tues scenario breaks for Joe, Mike could back him bigbrother05 Feb 2020 #30
Sure is looking this way blue-wave Feb 2020 #22
I am terrified of Sanders winning the nomination AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #24
Biden needs Amy to win Minnesota. squirecam Feb 2020 #27
Kick Cha Feb 2020 #25
Kick redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #26
The exit ramp will be next Wednesday for some candidates FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #29
If they were smart, they would drop out Saturday night. tritsofme Feb 2020 #31
We can only hope musicman65 Feb 2020 #32
True that! FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #33
 

blm

(113,041 posts)
1. To do that he needs Warren to stay in
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
6. If she doesn't win a single state on Super Tuesday
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:52 AM
Feb 2020

She has no rationale for staying in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,375 posts)
7. Amy should get out too.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020

Winning at home isn’t particularly impressive, and her prospects are not promising in any other upcoming state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. Is Warren going to win Massachusetts?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:22 AM
Feb 2020

Last I checked Bernie was ahead.

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tritsofme

(17,375 posts)
17. It wouldn't be impressive even if she won.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020

She also has no path to the nomination. To the extent she eats into Sanders support, the continuation of her failed campaign doesn’t bother me much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
20. She could in a brokered convention, if they seek a compromise candidate.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
2. I tell you one thing, a Sanders/Biden battle looks much better than a Sanders/Bloomberg battle. nt
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
16. +infinity
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:28 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg winning the nomination would invite a level of political ideological introspection on my part that I'd much rather avoid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
3. What if the accurate post title should be
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:39 AM
Feb 2020

“Bernie Sanders’s the only Democrat who can stop Trump”?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,299 posts)
9. then we need to talk about your definition of 'accurate' nt
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:06 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,394 posts)
10. your title contains a factual error :-) nt
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
5. Biden dominated the 2/25 debate. An SC win will continue his momentum.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:44 AM
Feb 2020

I believe he can sew it all up shortly after clobbering Bernie in Super Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
12. Biden did not dominate the debate tonight.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:17 AM
Feb 2020

What momentum? He hasn't won anything yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
14. On Chris Cuomo's CNN hour, SC's own Bakari Sellers said Joe would
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

win in South Carolina by 11 to 15 points. Bakari knows SC and its AA voters.

That's what I call momentum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(789 posts)
19. If he does then he deserves it.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:12 AM
Feb 2020

Momentum from losing three primaries to winning one is objectively momentum, but I'm not sure it will cut it for the GE. If it is conclusive from exit polling that Sanders will not resonate with the African American electorate then my support of Sanders will become questionable, and will make me reconsider. But momentum from losing to losing a little less doesn't gice me fuzzies for November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
23. ....but now you have entered
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:35 AM
Feb 2020

The Twilight Zone.

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Beartracks

(12,807 posts)
11. We certainly need someone in the general election with big coattails. So, if it's Biden...
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:16 AM
Feb 2020

... that is way more than okay. And more and more I think you're right: it needs to be Biden. Regardless, Democrats can and should keep pushing for tuition, M4A, etc. through Congress because THAT fight does NOT end even if Sanders or Warren is not the Democratic candidate/President.

Give the next President the most progressive/liberal Congress that is humanly possible, and press on!

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

fallout87

(819 posts)
15. Strong prediction
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:27 AM
Feb 2020

Especially for a guy who hasn't won a primary yet...

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Undecided
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,569 posts)
18. Biden doesn't have a chance unless Pete & Amy drop out before Super Tuesday
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:27 AM
Feb 2020

And even then it’s a slim chance, as Bernie will likely have a delegate lead the others can’t pass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dumptrump1

(236 posts)
21. with whose money?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:53 AM
Feb 2020

Only Bloomberg can buy what is needed to muzzle a mass movement like bernie's!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
30. If the SC/Super Tues scenario breaks for Joe, Mike could back him
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:14 PM
Feb 2020

If Bloomberg is being honest that beating Trump is his goal and he's worried about Bernie, throwing his weight (money) behind Joe might be the smart move at that point.

As the OP stated, a strong move by Joe in the next week would close the delegate gap and that momentum coupled with a favorable map could mean there is a negligible delegate delta by the convention.

A plurality of a few dozen delegates on the first ballot does not entitle you to get the nod without a floor fight.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blue-wave

(4,350 posts)
22. Sure is looking this way
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:58 AM
Feb 2020

And more importantly, we Biden people have been saying all along that Joe is the only candidate who can defeat Trump at the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
24. I am terrified of Sanders winning the nomination
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

I don’t see him beating trump unless there is a significant and rapid downturn of the economy before election, way too risky. From everything I read, he is McGovern 72. Amy and Pete - time to drop out is the night of SC primary BEFORE super Tuesday. BS is leading in large states but not if we coalesce behind Biden. BS has been getting latino vote and they have so much to lose if trump gets 2nd term.
Here is a likely scenario and it maybe too late after super tuesday:
BS wins the nomination, loses to trump and costs us house too, not to mention many state and local elections. Trump gets to replace Ginsburg and Breyer with far right justices during his second term plus continue reshaping federal courts across the country so that the vast majority of circuits of appeals become far right. It’s not just Roe v. Wade - that’s no longer the goal, it is not just eliminating the right to choose but criminalizing women for abortions. Needless to say, same sex marriage can be overturned in its entirety and ACA completely overturned. Dreamers will be deported and so many millions of undocumented. Legal immigration will be cut to bare minimum. It will be oligarchy and even if trump supporters then decide to turn on him, it will be too late to change anything. The power he’ll be gaining is unreal - House, Senate, SC - all acting as part of white house and not separate branch, plus DOJ, FBI, etc. serving his politics not public. He can use FBI resources to crack down on dissent, target dem organizations, etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
27. Biden needs Amy to win Minnesota.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:56 PM
Feb 2020

Otherwise Bernie would.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
29. The exit ramp will be next Wednesday for some candidates
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020

Right after Super Tuesday. Wouldn't you think?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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tritsofme

(17,375 posts)
31. If they were smart, they would drop out Saturday night.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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