And another smear attempt goes poof

[mcar]

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This is a prime example of the media running with a soundbite to push their narrative. @JoeBiden was literally telling the story of how he got into politics and his campaign for US Senate. He's told this story before. He was quoting himself from the trail then. Context matters.

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[jalan48]

1. In the video Joe says he's running for the Senate, vote for him. Where's the context that

changes that?

[George II]

4. What did he say before that? Biden didn't show up at that event for only 22 seconds.

[jalan48]

8. I didn't see that in the video. Is it there?

[Demsrule86]

46. Yeah another hit job...it is there...Sanders campaign?

[jalan48]

47. So nothing in the video to substantiate the claim. Got it.

[mr_lebowski]

7. Like the post says ...

He's telling a story wherein he's quoting himself from back when he was running for the Senate ..

[thesquanderer]

17. No he's not telling a story wherein he is quoting himself, the tweet is dishonest.

You can tell because... context. Here's how it starts:

"And you're the ones who sent Barack Obama to the presidency, and I have a simple proposition here. I'm here to ask you for your help. Where I come from, you don't get far unless you ask. My name is Joe Biden, I'm a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate..."

I can guarantee you, his old speech where he asked people to send him to the Senate did NOT start with "you're the ones who sent Barack Obama to the presidency" because, of course, he hasn't run for the Senate since Obama became president.

And you know, if it wasn't the mental flub it seems to be, Joe's people would have been out getting on everyone for making a gaffe out of something that wasn't one.

Look, Joe is Joe. This stuff is not "disqualifying." But the disingenuous attempts to deny this stuff happens doesn't reflect well on anyone.

[mr_lebowski]

21. I wasn't vouching for the tweet, just saying the explanation is in the OP :)

Thanks for the facts, they are always appreciated (by me at least)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. You forgot to quote what Joe said after that, about votin for the "OTHER BIDEN" ... HUH?!

That makes a lot of sense too!!


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[BusyBeingBest]

32. He just brain-farted through his spiel. He was running through it

too fast and didn't listen to himself. Not sure why there was such a time constraint on him that he was talking that fast. It either confirms what some people believe about Joe that they don't like (not mentally up to the task), or gets ignored by the people who already support him because "That's just Joe!"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. I appreciate your intellectual honesty.

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[BusyBeingBest]

41. Thanks! I try to be fair.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. There is none. This is getting ridiculous.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. BEYOND ridiculous!! This is why Bernie's glidin' and Biden's slidin' in the polls!!

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[democrattotheend]

44. He said "this is how it goes in my state"

When I read the whole paragraph of what he said, it seemed like he was referring to how it went in his state when he ran for Senate, though he could have been more clear about that. But I don't think he got confused about which office he's running for now.

[George II]

2. Anyone who read Biden's autobiography or followed Biden over the years knew what he was saying.

That was Biden's self-introduction at all of his appearances early in his career: "Hi, I'm Joe Biden and I'm running for United States Senator".

[Perseus]

9. But he is not running for Senator, what is the point of saying that besides confusing people?

He is famous for his gaffes, why add more voluntarily? I know supporters are trying to defend him, how about if supporters instead of having to run out to defend the silliness of that comment don't write to him to stop doing it? Of course, if in fact this was not another one of his gaffes.

"Anyone who read Biden's autobiography or followed Biden over the years knew what he was saying."

Sorry, but that is even worst, he needs to talk to everyone, not the very few who have read his biography or followed Biden over the years, the number of fanatics is limited, he needs to reach everyone.

[LanternWaste]

13. Only the lowest common denominators will be confused. They won't vote dem regardless.

Others however, will pretend confusion to better allege a sincere concern over a nothing burger.

[thesquanderer]

20. I agree it's a nothingburger. But the defense in the OP is still dishonest. (n/t)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Why is it so hard for some people to acknowledge Joe's gaffe?!

Just admit that Joe made a mistake - no biggie - and move on, rather than keep drawing attention to the gaffe... it really is that simple!!


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[Cha]

3. Thanks, mcar

[Perseus]

5. One would think candidates have people looking at their speeches to anticipate problems like this?

If he told this story before and he got some problems with it, why tell it again? Protect yourself from this type of problems.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. YOU WOULD THINK! Which tells you it was a gaffe... peeps should just admit it and move on!

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[guillaumeb]

10. Recommended.

Context matters.

[thesquanderer]

19. Did you actually watch the video? The context actually proves it was a flub. (n/t)

[guillaumeb]

25. He was referring to his past history. eom

[thesquanderer]

26. Did you actually watch the clip? It shows that that's not the case,

as I explain in my post #17.

I don't know if people are missing it, or if they are not watching for themselves and just choosing to believe what they want to believe.

[guillaumeb]

28. I did watch the clip.

Twice. But he used that introduction many times.

In my view, his policies are what matter. And while I support Warren based on her policies, I will support the nominee.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. I agree Joe's policies are what matter...why I'm supportin Bernie & Elizabeth!!

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[guillaumeb]

40. We agree on this.

But I am certain that we also agree that Trump is a lunatic.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. You're comment is an insult to all lunatics with that comparison... hahaha!!

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[thesquanderer]

39. re: "In my view, his policies are what matter."

I agree, his policies, his experience, and his ability to beat Trump are the things that matter. I think this flub is a non-issue.

But that doesn't mean it wasn't a flub. I know you said you watched it twice, but in case you didn't read my post #17, the key to it not being a retelling of his campaigns for Senate (as people have put forth) is that it starts with his talking about how they supported Obama... and none of his Senate campaign statements could possibly have used that as a launching point.

[guillaumeb]

43. Yes, I read your first response.

And I also feel that, given how many times the candidates appear, it would be surprising if misstatements did not happen more often.

[thesquanderer]

45. Yup. The misstatement was just kind of amusing, in a Joe-being-Joe way.

I just don't get people trying to mislead people to think it was something other than what it was. Or people uncritically buying whatever explanation people come up with if it's what they want to believe.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Flubs happen!! It's okay... but trying to excuse it only keeps it on the front page.

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[melman]

11. Nope

Here is the original Reuters video.

[Cha]

12. I knew it was Poof.

[thesquanderer]

18. Did you actually watch the video? The context actually proves it was a flub. (n/t)

[berni_mccoy]

14. Sorry I've watched the full video in context

He said he’s running for the Senate clearly. It’s a mistake and not a big deal. The media will do what it does but his supporters can’t pretend he didn’t say it or it was taken out of context.

[BusyBeingBest]

15. This is just not true. I saw the entire video from the beginning, and

he wasn't talking about his senate history. He just fucked it up. Sometimes people do that. I hate dishonesty.

[David__77]

22. I don't that from the clip. That said, I don't think it matters either way.

Is there a longer clip that gives more context? I haven't seen that linked. In any event, so what if he did misspeak?

[Blue_Tires]

23. Figures it would be a troll like Higgins...

[Cha]

48. K