Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumLast night was not good for the Democrats. Very, very not good at all.
Bernie was horrible. Maybe his worst debate performance ever. Maybe not coincidentally, it was his first time ever at being the clear front runner, and he blew it. He lost his temper often and was not cool under pressure. There's an art to emoting anger without being angry. Portray your ideas in a hopeful, optimistic manner instead of a screed against the top 1%.
Biden was the winner by default, but he had to yell his way through it. Bloomberg is completely out of his league as a candidate. Money cannot buy you everything. Warren went after Bloomberg again which makes no sense. Pete, Amy, and Stayer really have no reason to still be in this race.
Any more nights like that and Trump will win going away.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)it's a really bad look. Really bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Poeraria
(219 posts)With Biden on the ascent, Trump is realizing that he will have his hands full. Hopefully, Biden gains momentum and we can put this wrangling behind us, get behind Joe, and turn our resources on defeating Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Sadly, this is the stone in the pit of my stomach.
I believe that the sum of Republican gerrymandering, Russian interference, voter roll purges and electronic vote flipping will result in Trump's re-election. And that's it: the end of American Constitutional government.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)there's no reason why they shouldn't make their case at least through Super Tuesday. That said, I don't watch debates. I never think that the declared winner is really the winner, so I know it's just going to aggravate me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Hell, theres enough time to just start over again with new candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I like Biden. But he's run twice and failed. The Bob Dole comparison is there for a reason. Plus Biden has lost more than a step. That would show up during a long campaign.
Joe Biden would be a safe strategic choice that would likely fall short.
I don't care about names. Nominating a socialist would not work. As always, big picture focus devours details. The nation is 35% conservatives and 26% liberals. Anyone relying on a socialist and also relying on turnout is double barrel kidding themselves.
We desperately needed Mike Bloomberg to emerge as frontrunner. He's not a two-time loser and he's not an easily rejected socialist. People love to rant about past statements and day to day details, while completely oblivious toward that brief window in late October and early November. That window is all that matters. Self-made 60 billion is a ton of benefit of a doubt and teflon and a ton of swing voters.
If Bloomberg had emerged as clear frontrunner then Trump would be underdog toward November. Instead Trump is trading at 57%. If Sanders becomes the nominee then that 57 surges upward. The restraint in the Trump market right now is due to that remaining uncertainty toward the Democratic nod.
Anyone here cheering against Bloomberg has been cheering to lower our expectancy. That's the bottom line. Day to day obsessive types will scream against that. Day to day detail types always allow the big picture to float comfortably above their head.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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eissa
(4,238 posts)Do people forget what primaries are for? It's to weed out the weakest links. Has everyone forgotten the toxicity of the 2016 GOP primaries, the 2008 Dem primaries, and particularly the 1992 Dem primaries? In each of those cases the person who was torched the most went on to win the nomination.
This is a battle, and whomever emerges from the ashes to fight again in November will have a hopefully united party behind them. Don't lose hope this early.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)A large part of focus is the inequality in our system and the way the system works for the very wealthy. What she is demonstrating is not just what she is willing to say about another candidate, but also how she will go after the very wealthy in general.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I agree that the election will likely come down to 2 or 3 people after Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Just mho
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tavernier
(12,377 posts)and is all but certain to take SC.
Im on vacation so not so focused on news.
Did I hear wrong??
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden