Joe Biden drops claim he was arrested seeing Mandela

[BooScout]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51648166

Joe Biden drops claim he was arrested seeing Mandela

Joe Biden was not arrested in South Africa while trying to see Nelson Mandela, his campaign has conceded.

The US presidential contender had repeatedly said he was arrested during a trip there in the 1970s, when South Africa was under apartheid.

But a deputy campaign managers told reporters Mr Biden had been referring to an episode where he was "separated" from black colleagues at an airport.

(More) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51648166

[BusyBeingBest]

1. Does he also drop the claim that Mandela thanked him for getting arrested?

Since if the first thing didn't happen, the second thing also didn't happen. Unless Mandela thanked him for waiting in a separate area of an airport for a little while. This shit makes me nervous about him.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

15. Why does Joe say things that are so easily shown to be untrue?! I can see why it makes you nervous.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[BusyBeingBest]

19. They ALL make me a little nervous, Bloomberg, Klobuchar, and Bernie included, LOL.

But I just don't get any of this, it's off-the-wall shit.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. I hear ya.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[melman]

2. It's crazy that the moderators didn't see fit to ask about that last night

[jimfields33]

3. They were all Biden supporters or so it seemed.

I’d love to know who each one supported for real.

[melman]

7. Yeah

How about Gayle King telling him what a wonderful gentleman he is. wtf is that about?

[jimfields33]

9. Yep. No bias there.

[NJCher]

33. how she gets the classification of "journalist" mystifies me

I thought she was disgusting in her interview with that rapist rapper guy, can't remember his name. She kept saying, "Robert. Robert." What a placater. She should have walked off the set when he lost it, crying, screaming.

[Polybius]

48. Yup, and then he yelled at her

He was very rude last night.

[PatSeg]

10. I don't think so

They only had so much time and seven candidates who were rather boisterous and unruly much of time. There is no way they could cover everything in two hours. Sometimes it was hard enough for the moderators to even get a question asked, because of all the cross talk and arguing.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

23. Joe needs the lift... but not gonna affect the outcome.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[NanceGreggs]

51. Yeah, I hear ya ...

Everyone is 'out to get' poor Bernie - the system is 'rigged against him' - the media is mean to him.

Now, where I have heard that before?

[BusyBeingBest]

4. I didn't watch the debate, but I think they were protecting him--

I notice no one said anything about a claim that 150 million people died of gun shootings. Apparently he said that unchallenged? Edit to add: I read that on the internets, so if he didn't say it, then I am wrong.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

24. Ya think?! hahaha!!

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[mgcgulfcoast]

26. He said it

150,000,000 yikes.

[marybourg]

5. Because in a world where Trump is President,

what could be more important than a possibly exaggerated 30 year memory.

[BusyBeingBest]

6. In a Dem primary, people are being fairly nice.

The ruthlessness is coming.

[BilltheCat]

11. Dottard sending the Ghoul all over the world holding governments hostage...

until they manufactured bogus dirt on JB was what then? nice friendly stuff because they were sure they could beat him, right?
And he's congratulating Bernie Sanders and riling up his followers because he's afraid to run against him too I suppose.
Got it.

[PatSeg]

13. I remember there was a similar Hillary Clinton moment

about visiting Bosnia under gunfire, which turned out to be a huge exaggeration. She survived that one.

[marybourg]

18. Yes. I find many of my old memories are

not completely accurate, when compared with photos, timelines, or other people’s memories. Especially when recounted over and over. We tend to remember the telling, rather than the event.

[PatSeg]

37. I think it is often a bad habit

for politicians to embellish some of their stories. I've seen it many times from both Democrats and republicans. And of course, memories do fade and different people have different versions of the same events.

[marybourg]

45. I'm sure you're right about politicians, but we all do it to a

greater or lesser extent. So — human.

[PatSeg]

46. Oh yes

I didn't mean to just put it on politicians, though they can get a bit theatrical at times. We all tend to have selective memories, often with no intent to deceive. People's minds process information differently. We all view the world in our own unique way.

[BusyBeingBest]

20. She did not survive that. Sinbad the comic said she was full of BS and Obama

won the nomination.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

25. Good point!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
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[BusyBeingBest]

29. Sinbad changed the course of history.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. He sure did!! haha!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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[NJCher]

34. we have a lot of choices

no need to choose someone who has lost credibility with what he says.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. It's pretty easy to understand why.

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[msongs]

8. if you are blocked or impeded it is a form of arrest according to the dictionary nt

[BooScout]

12. Huh...

So by that definition, women have been under arrest my entire life. Who knew?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Yes ... I was just arrested this morning stuck in heavy traffic. Who knew?!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[BusyBeingBest]

21. He said he was arrested in the streets of Soweto with the UN ambassador.

No way you can confuse that with waiting in an airport lounge.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Or maybe you can... either way tho, it's not a good look.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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[Gravitycollapse]

39. That is incorrect (Via Cornell Law School)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arrest

Arrest

An arrest is using legal authority to deprive a person of his or her freedom of movement. An arrest is generally made with an arrest warrant. An arrest may be made without a warrant if probable cause and exigent circumstances are presented at the time of the arrest.

Probable cause is a reasonable belief of the police officer in the guilt of the suspect, based on the facts and information prior to the arrest. For instance, a warrantless arrest may be legitimate in situations where the police officer has a reasonable belief that the suspect has either committed a crime or is about to commit a crime. The police officer might also arrest the suspect to prevent the suspect’s escape or to preserve the evidence. A warrantless arrest may be invalidated though, if the police officer failed to demonstrate exigent circumstances and probable cause.

The right to make warrantless arrests are commonly defined and limited by statutes subject to the due process guaranty of U.S. Constitution. The suspect arrested without a warrant is entitled prompt judicial determination generally made in 48 hours.

An arrest may trigger certain procedural requirements, such as the person under arrest be given a Miranda Warning.

[totodeinhere]

42. If so then why has he dropped the claim that he was arrested? n/t

[ALBliberal]

14. Reminds me of Hillary claiming she was under fire

at some Middle East airport. It happens. Still voted for her in 2016.

[uponit7771]

41. Arrested vs stopped is not the same as an event not being there at all

[ALBliberal]

43. True but I think all candidates at some point

Whether it’s fatigue from campaigning or it’s pressure of competition will say something regretful. I choose to look past a purity test.

[Mike Nelson]

16. Well...

... I always remember events from 30 years ago exactly as they happened!

[NJCher]

35. please

you can't tell me you don't remember whether you were arrested or not, especially if it was in a foreign country and especially if it involves a major international figure.

If you're ever arrested, you remember it.

[Nay]

56. Thank you! nt

[Celerity]

28. good, glad to see this nt

[Jane Austin]

36. And why do I keep hearing a Bloomberg ad on tv that says he was mayor of

NYC during 9/11?

I'm pretty sure Giuiliani was mayor then and even extended his term a few months so as not to change horses in midstream.

How is Bloomberg getting away with this?

[Celerity]

38. Here

[jimfields33]

52. Yeah that pisses me off.

Of course Bloomberg’s the anchor of my ranking. It looks like I won’t have to get drunk to vote after all since his chances are dimming everyday.

[uponit7771]

40. Biden would not go through the "white door" this is a net positive for Biden. Haters will

... focus on the semantics of arrested vs stopped while I applaud Biden for his courage.

[USALiberal]

44. He is a lawyer! Most lawyers understand what an arrest is! Nt

[uponit7771]

47. Still semantics ... important part is Biden's courage

[jimfields33]

53. And yet not courageous enough to write in his autobiography.

[jberryhill]

54. But Andrew Young and Charles Diggs dutifully went through a "colored" door

That is the lamest thing ever.

This particular version of “let’s make up a story to buttress a made up story” requires Ambassador Young and Congressman Biggs to have quite a racist-compliant mentality.

There they were, going along with the program, while Biden, the white hero, defied authority on their behalf.

Yeah, I don’t think so. This version is astoundingly insulting to the African Americans who were with him.

[LenaW]

55. Stolen Valor is never a net positive.

In this case it's particularly bad, as he is running against someone who actually did get arrested for protesting for civil rights. So it both draws attention to that actual arrest (bad for Biden in the primary), and draws attention to Biden's lie. That's going to play really badly in the general election - republicans don't need to swiftboat him; he's doing it himself.

Aside from that, it's hugely damaging to the party to have that happen on the heels of Hillary doing the same thing last election.

[uponit7771]

57. So now he's lying About the door?!?!

[LenaW]

58. Not what I said. n/t

[David__77]

49. Snopes

For reference https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-arrested-south-africa/

[BooScout]

50. Lol...considering my source was the BBC...

...I didn't really figure I needed back-up from Snopes, but thanks for the "confirmation".