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Sanders won't speak at AIPAC, but has no problem speaking at Liberty University on Rosh Hashanah (Original Post) still_one Feb 2020 OP
that's pretty bad BilltheCat Feb 2020 #1
IOKIYBS blm Feb 2020 #4
Word. BilltheCat Feb 2020 #8
Disgraceful tritsofme Feb 2020 #2
Warren is t speaking either. Good on both of them. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #3
Warren didn't speak at Liberty University either, which is consistent still_one Feb 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #12
but wouldn't go to AIPAC. You see nothing hypocritical in that? He won't go to AIPAC still_one Feb 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #25
and Liberty University has a racist and anti-Jewish agenda. Got it still_one Feb 2020 #43
Actually, yes. He accepts money from lobbyists. ehrnst Feb 2020 #44
KR Cha Feb 2020 #5
Messy. nt oasis Feb 2020 #6
AIPAC spent over $1.5 million on negative ads against Sanders in Nevada... doxyluv13 Feb 2020 #9
but the racist and anti-Jewish Liberty University, on one of Jewish high holidays, no problem still_one Feb 2020 #18
What are you suggesting? Tweedy Feb 2020 #34
"Ha'aretz praised him for not going, btw." redqueen Feb 2020 #47
Only 11% of American Jews are supporting sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #13
No worry there in my opinion. If he is the nominee, trump will have another four years still_one Feb 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #27
National polls are not a reflection of the electoral college. Incidentally, his hiring of still_one Feb 2020 #30
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be speaker Gothmog Feb 2020 #31
Whoever wins Tweedy Feb 2020 #38
... SidDithers Feb 2020 #45
I'm Jewish and would support him. OliverQ Feb 2020 #19
I am Jewish and I am not a fan Gothmog Feb 2020 #32
I hope everyone is paying ATTENTION. Nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #33
Did he even realize it was Rosh Hashana? question everything Feb 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #14
Why is that a concern of yours? OliverQ Feb 2020 #21
So you are a spokesperson for American Jews. Psst, I am Jewish, and you don't speak for me, and still_one Feb 2020 #23
Because it's rude for someone to question OliverQ Feb 2020 #24
Thanks for your comments. David__77 Feb 2020 #36
Hands off Bernie, no criticism allowed. How convenient. Doesn't matter that he brought it up still_one Feb 2020 #40
Mahalo, still_one.. Cha Feb 2020 #35
+++. still_one Feb 2020 #39
He knew, it was well publicized. He didn't care still_one Feb 2020 #22
why didn't Biden come out against the right-wing group? rockfordfile Feb 2020 #15
Are you Jewish? JudyM Feb 2020 #16
Yes I am, but that is irrelevant. It definitely isn't a surprise who he is still_one Feb 2020 #28
Oh yes, he has no courage, that's a bit of a stretch. JudyM Feb 2020 #29
I don't like AIPAC OR Liberty. RandySF Feb 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Feb 2020 #41
and that is a consistent position+++. and one I agree with still_one Feb 2020 #42
Cool. David__77 Feb 2020 #37
I have no problem with Sanders speaking at Liberty University on Rosh Hashanah. I have no Autumn Feb 2020 #46
 

BilltheCat

(65 posts)
1. that's pretty bad
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:54 PM
Feb 2020


one might think it should be a disqualifier for someone to even go to LU given the litmus tests imposed on all other candidates.
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blm

(112,995 posts)
4. IOKIYBS
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:56 PM
Feb 2020

Anyone else would be eviscerated.

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BilltheCat

(65 posts)
8. Word.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:01 PM
Feb 2020

my thoughts exactly.

I remember it now when he went there and how his fan base was saying it was a good thing because he was going to change their minds. Yah, really.

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Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
3. Warren is t speaking either. Good on both of them.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:55 PM
Feb 2020
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
7. Warren didn't speak at Liberty University either, which is consistent
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:00 PM
Feb 2020

and the history of Liberty University has a history of anti-Jewish and racist sentiments

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still_one

(92,055 posts)
17. but wouldn't go to AIPAC. You see nothing hypocritical in that? He won't go to AIPAC
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

because he says they are bigoted to express why he disagrees with their agenda, but has no problem going to Liberty University on the high holidays

Ok

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primary today, I would vote for:
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
43. and Liberty University has a racist and anti-Jewish agenda. Got it
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:06 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:44 AM - Edit history (1)

If he has no problem with his PACs

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
44. Actually, yes. He accepts money from lobbyists.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020

From Bernie's page on Open Secrets:
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/industries?cid=N00000528&cycle=CAREER





Vice President Biden does not accept contributions from federal lobbyists and has been a leader throughout his career in working to eliminate the influence of big money in politics," campaign spokesman Michael Gwin told The Hill.

Also, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) has received over $20,000, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has received over $16,000 and former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) and Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.) have all received over $10,000.

Just over $2,000 has gone to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and just under $600 to Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), while businessman Andrew Yang, and Marianne Williamson have all accepted over $250.

The Gabbard campaign told The Hill they will return the contributions.


https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/472180-democrats-take-in-lobbying-industry-cash-despite
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doxyluv13

(247 posts)
9. AIPAC spent over $1.5 million on negative ads against Sanders in Nevada...
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:23 PM
Feb 2020

...and he should go make nice with them? Ha'aretz praised him for not going, btw.

And I suppose some think you should speak to those who disagree with you, but not me.

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still_one

(92,055 posts)
18. but the racist and anti-Jewish Liberty University, on one of Jewish high holidays, no problem
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:51 PM
Feb 2020
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Tweedy

(628 posts)
34. What are you suggesting?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:20 AM
Feb 2020

I don't think I like the suggestion

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redqueen

(115,096 posts)
47. "Ha'aretz praised him for not going, btw."
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:09 PM
Feb 2020

Didn't know that, thanks!

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Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
10. Only 11% of American Jews are supporting sanders
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

I remember this lecture being discussed during breaks at services. There were some upset congregants.




Nor do Jews appear to be a key part of Sanders’s base. The most recent data, from Pew in January, had just 11 percent of U.S. Jews picking Sanders as their top choice.
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
20. No worry there in my opinion. If he is the nominee, trump will have another four years
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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still_one

(92,055 posts)
30. National polls are not a reflection of the electoral college. Incidentally, his hiring of
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

Jill Stein supporter Briahna Joy Gray, and Hillary hating David Sirota and Nina Turner was his message of unity

Difference is, I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee without hesitation in the General Election, but until the primaries are over, and the nominee is selected, I will say what I think

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Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
31. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be speaker
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tweedy

(628 posts)
38. Whoever wins
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:41 AM
Feb 2020

We need to guard against the backlash.

Please tell your wife for me there was a vicious backlash to Bill Clinton (the frothy right circulated tapes detailing Clinton "murders"-- one of which he supposedly carried out in Arkansas when Clinton was actually a Rhodes scholar in the U.K., try correcting a rabid republican sometime)

The backlash to Obama was downright delirious, no doubt. It was not good for Jimmy Carter, either.

My mother told me the backlash to President Kennedy only ended with his assassination.

There is a backlash when a democrat is elected president. We need to work on protecting ourselves from it.

Who knows what form it will take, or who these cretins will scapegoat. We should prepare, build the party. Think it is important we not fret that future, because we have so much to deal with right now.

And, even though Elizabeth is my preference, if your wife believes Bernie is the right person for the job, please tell her this: Vote! We need the wisdom of the American people and we won't get that if good people stay home.



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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
19. I'm Jewish and would support him.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020
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Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
32. I am Jewish and I am not a fan
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:17 AM
Feb 2020

I will support the nominee of the party but I hope that sanders is not the nominee. I was at the National Convention and was called a bad Jew by a vetted sanders delegate at the Jewish caucus. This sanders supporter was wearing a large cross that he thought would protect him from the Jews in this meeting.

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BootinUp

(47,045 posts)
33. I hope everyone is paying ATTENTION. Nt
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020
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question everything

(47,407 posts)
11. Did he even realize it was Rosh Hashana?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:40 PM
Feb 2020

When was the last time he observed any Jewish holiday?

Or cared?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. Why is that a concern of yours?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020

Most Jews in America aren't observant.

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still_one

(92,055 posts)
23. So you are a spokesperson for American Jews. Psst, I am Jewish, and you don't speak for me, and
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

telling someone “why should you care”? As though they aren’t entitled to an opinion because they may or may not be Jewish

Perhaps because it demonstrates a hypocrisy, why he chooses only to speak to a Christian bigoted university, but not to what he terms as a bigoted Jewish PAC

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
24. Because it's rude for someone to question
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie's religious views. After all the crap Obama went through, you would thimk forum would know better.

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David__77

(23,310 posts)
36. Thanks for your comments.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:30 AM
Feb 2020

...

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still_one

(92,055 posts)
40. Hands off Bernie, no criticism allowed. How convenient. Doesn't matter that he brought it up
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:48 AM
Feb 2020

by calling AIPAC a bigoted PAC, but refused to call Liberty University a bigoted University

Right

Interesting how he calls out one bigoted group, but refuses to call out another

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Cha

(296,672 posts)
35. Mahalo, still_one..
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
22. He knew, it was well publicized. He didn't care
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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rockfordfile

(8,695 posts)
15. why didn't Biden come out against the right-wing group?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
28. Yes I am, but that is irrelevant. It definitely isn't a surprise who he is
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:14 PM
Feb 2020

pandering to. If he went to AIPAC to talk and have a dialogue with them why their positions were wrong, that would be an act of courage, but he only does that with the bigoted Christian Liberty University

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JudyM

(29,176 posts)
29. Oh yes, he has no courage, that's a bit of a stretch.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:18 PM
Feb 2020
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RandySF

(58,337 posts)
26. I don't like AIPAC OR Liberty.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:12 PM
Feb 2020
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still_one

(92,055 posts)
42. and that is a consistent position+++. and one I agree with
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Autumn

(44,956 posts)
46. I have no problem with Sanders speaking at Liberty University on Rosh Hashanah. I have no
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

problem with him and other candidates refusing to speak at AIPAC. I applaud each and every one of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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