Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMediate: Berserk Bernie Sanders Fans Trap Woman Congressional Candidate in Her Car: 'BLOCK HER IN!'
A group of Bernie Sanders supporters posted a video of themselves screaming at Illinois Democratic congressional candidate Betsy Dirksen Londrigan and trapping her in her car, yelling Medicare for All slogans and demanding that she debate democratic socialist candidate Stephanie Smith.
On Tuesday, local CBS Capital Bureau Chief Mark Maxwell posted a video of a group of Democratic Socialists surrounding Londrigans car screaming Block her in!, demanding Londrigan debate Smith, and being told to stop shoving.
But as Maxwell noted in his report, Londrigan appeared at a forum with Smith two weeks ago, and pledged to support [Smith] if she won.
The video was from a Facebook live stream that was posted Monday night by a group named Where is Betsy?, which describes itself by saying This page was created for the soul purpose of spotting Betsy Lodrigan Dirkson in her travels through out the IL-13 district.
Its unclear whether Soul Purpose is intended as a reference to a favorite Michael Bolton bootleg.
Smith responded to the dustup by posting a video of her own thanking the mob and praising the event as non-violent.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(58,447 posts)We don't want to pretend this didn't happen now, do we?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,538 posts)What do you think of it? Did it amuse you? Horrify you? Do you think it was justified, and if so, why? How would you feel if it was you or a member of your family who was trapped in a car by a screaming mob?
What are your thoughts ? Do you think Bernie should say something? If so, what? You know he's going to be asked.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)and is shameful that as far as I can search, NO comment by sanders or his campaign. Londigran lost by 2500 votes to a sitting GOP congressperson in 2018 and the antics of sanders supporters can impact 2020 as they give GOP the ammunition
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)It's why Bernie's glidin'while Joe's slidin'in the polls!! DON'T SWEAT IT... ENJOY IT!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Happy Hoosier
(7,210 posts)Are do you just mot care?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(don't sweat making an excuse... you have fortune cookies and bumper stickers to write!!!!)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,311 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hekate
(90,538 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue-wave
(4,343 posts)Who are these people to think they can bully anyone into what they want? It reminds me of totalitarian regimes I studied at university. Like Hitler or Stalin or maybe Castro. Oh no wait, we can't criticize Castro, Bernie and his people like him too much. My bad!!
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Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,447 posts)With my anxiety, I might have mistakenly stepped on the accelerator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OregonBlue
(7,753 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... the very best people, doesn't he?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
James48
(4,426 posts)Perhaps you can explain your accusation that these are "Bernie Bros."
I see no evidence that these people have anything to do with Bernie Sanders. What makes you think there is any connection to Senator Sanders?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(58,447 posts)Take it up with him.
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tritsofme
(17,367 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wnylib
(21,312 posts)to track down specific individuals who participated in rhis demonstration and learn something about their backgrounds.
Are they genuine, albeit fanatical, Sanders supporters? Or are they opposition operatives intent on intensifying divisions among Dem voters?
Either one could be true. So instead of reacting emotionally to these incidents, maybe it's better to stick to discussions of whether Sanders or other candidates are best suited to represent our party against Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,538 posts)...and telling the world they have no place in his campaign. He's really good at full- throated denunciations when he wants to be isn't he? He could get his staff to investigate whether any such people are associated either as paid staff or volunteers -- and fire their asses publicly.
Does he show any signs of doing any of that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wnylib
(21,312 posts)have been weak and rare, like Trump denouncing neo Nazis.
The more I see and hear of Sanders, the more I see his deception in painting himself as a resurrection of FDR. Roosevelt was a capitalist who preserved both democracy and capitalism through regulations and social programs. He had no commitment to socialism itself, only to progressive democracy.
Sanders has a commitment to socialism. In the term "democratic socialist," the word socialist is the noun, the statement of who and what he is. The word "democratic" is only an add-on, a modifier, to claim (and soften the effect of) what kind of socialist he is. But it is an oxymoron. Socialism requires giving up some democratic values of dissent, free speech, and individuality to implement it. It always devolves into some type of dictatorship.
Incidentally, I refer to him by his last name, the same as I do with all other candidates. The folksiness of "Bernie" does not appeal to me.
My dilemma: If he becomes the nominee, how can I back a candidate whose political philosophy is to end the democratic system from the left in order to oppose a fascist who is destroying it from the right?
I am left of center. But I am not far left enough for socialism.
We criticize Republicans for accepting Trump in order to maintain power. But we are doing the same thing if we accept Sanders as the nominee for our party. Both actions intensify the national divisions between left and right by putting a socialist up against a fascist.
In either case, democracy loses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turbineguy
(37,285 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,538 posts)He has not been good at repudiation up to this point.
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Turbineguy
(37,285 posts)"Pretend Bernie is trump and behave naturally!"
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Hekate
(90,538 posts)Such things have been known to happen.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,101 posts)Sickening to see this shit here but helping Putin and republicans is apparently ok in some cases (i.e. when smearing Bernie is the goal)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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R B Garr
(16,950 posts)I would file a police report over that. Just completely out of control and unacceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tavernier
(12,368 posts)and who knows what these thugs will do. But a vehicle of that size can flatten a lot of feet that are standing too close to the tires.
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R B Garr
(16,950 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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MFM008
(19,803 posts)To set peoples dislike of Sanders into concrete.
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)say anything to prove my point anymore; just post links to tweets and news stories...
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,604 posts)...hats...???
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dalton99a
(81,386 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,604 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,447 posts)She almost won in 2018.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,101 posts)Because Bernie
But please keep in mind that many people these days are not so easily manipulated.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jose Garcia
(2,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden