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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:47 AM Feb 2020

So, #PrimaryWarren is the top trending topic on Twitter

And all because Warren schooled a Sanders supporter on convention rules last night on CNN’s town hall


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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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So, #PrimaryWarren is the top trending topic on Twitter (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2020 OP
Love the people in the comments who don't know Sanders changed his position. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #1
Russian trolls may be amplifying it, no doubt octoberlib Feb 2020 #2
Yep. Malmsy Feb 2020 #45
I find that many Sanders supporters don't know much about him. betsuni Feb 2020 #7
Agreed. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #8
I want to scream every time he says an obviously Democratic issue is a "radical" betsuni Feb 2020 #9
Oh, I know, there was a woman on my bus saying these things the other day! LisaM Feb 2020 #39
These are real sanders supporters Gothmog Feb 2020 #17
I don't even know what to say. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #3
And they wonder why we don't see Sanders as the "unity" candidate. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #5
That Iggy account is an obvious bot. OliverQ Feb 2020 #18
Those both look like they could be fake ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #40
Bros are trending #PrimaryWarren because Liz exposed Bernie's hypocrisy. Gothmog Feb 2020 #44
When I read the title I thought oh no she went off on bernie jimfields33 Feb 2020 #4
Warren told the truth about sanders and is now being attacked Gothmog Feb 2020 #14
I'm not cool with that at all!!!!! jimfields33 Feb 2020 #42
And yet Warren won't engage the front runner. Curious that. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #6
She did a little bit at the last debate but octoberlib Feb 2020 #10
Shutter Twitter superpatriotman Feb 2020 #11
I don't want to primary her, but it is obviously disappointing for her to go against the DanTex Feb 2020 #12
You mean YOU are disappointed that she stands by the rules that she agreed to? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #16
She changed her position Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #31
No she is willing to abide by the rules she agreed to... Moderateguy Feb 2020 #41
No. Personal opinion aside, she agreed to the rules. blm Feb 2020 #51
So Movbez4 Feb 2020 #35
Bernie didn't write the rules, Bernie didn't want superdelegates at all. DanTex Feb 2020 #37
Elizabeth schooled that sanders' supporter. Cha Feb 2020 #50
Who is suprised by this? Gothmog Feb 2020 #13
If Sanders cannot lead his people then how the hell is going to lead the country Peacetrain Feb 2020 #15
You assume that Sanders has any control over anything.. Moderateguy Feb 2020 #19
I am beginning to wonder.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #21
Some of his supporters seem to think he would have control over everything. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #24
From what I saw at the National Conventiion, sanders does not try to control his supporters Gothmog Feb 2020 #26
He did tell them to. OliverQ Feb 2020 #20
These are not bots Oliver.. people who surround cars.. yelling at people in meetings Peacetrain Feb 2020 #25
Can you please show me where Bernie told people to go do those things? OliverQ Feb 2020 #29
Can you show me where he didn't? Peacetrain Feb 2020 #32
The burden is on you to prove it. OliverQ Feb 2020 #34
look who sanders' top staff is. Cha Feb 2020 #49
This is my experience Peacetrain Feb 2020 #33
It's trending #21 now redqueen Feb 2020 #22
They started trending very early East Coast time OliverQ Feb 2020 #30
You tell us. ehrnst Feb 2020 #47
I am amused by this trending topic on twitter Gothmog Feb 2020 #23
Nothing new Hav Feb 2020 #27
I guarantee you this is Russian bots fueling this. OliverQ Feb 2020 #28
What. The. Fuck. onecaliberal Feb 2020 #36
It's past time for Sen. Warren to train some fire on Sen. Sanders' supporters DarthDem Feb 2020 #38
Why is #PrimaryWarren trending? Gothmog Feb 2020 #43
This guy isn't from SC. Anyone know who he works for? Hortensis Mar 2020 #55
It's hilarious because literally EVERY TIME Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #46
From your keyboard to all the positive Cha Feb 2020 #48
Warren calling Bernie Sanders a massive failure. Gothmog Feb 2020 #52
Omg, thanks for posting! octoberlib Mar 2020 #53
Love her or hate her, but Warren is a straight shooter. musicblind Mar 2020 #54
Wow... it is depressing to see supporters of any Dem candidate unwillling to accept truth about hlthe2b Mar 2020 #56
sanders supporters are upset Gothmog Mar 2020 #57
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
1. Love the people in the comments who don't know Sanders changed his position.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:54 AM
Feb 2020

I have to hope that they're not really Sanders supporters. If they are, their knowledge of their candidate is sorely lacking. A better explanation might be that they're being intentionally obtuse.

But then, we see that here a lot. Though, to be honest, I sometimes wonder if those are really Sanders supporters, as well. Some of them clearly aren't doing their guy any favors.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. Russian trolls may be amplifying it, no doubt
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:00 AM
Feb 2020

but I see a lot of familiar usernames of Sanders supporters that have been around since 2016. This happens anytime Bernie is criticized. Bernie has a strong incel following on social media.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,462 posts)
7. I find that many Sanders supporters don't know much about him.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:25 AM
Feb 2020

And say fake news about facts. It's strange.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
8. Agreed.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:27 AM
Feb 2020

Some also seem to believe that political history started in 2015 when he announced his run for the presidency. They don't seem to understand (or just ignore) that Democrats have been fighting for many of "his" issues for decades.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,462 posts)
9. I want to scream every time he says an obviously Democratic issue is a "radical"
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:36 AM
Feb 2020

idea he came up with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
39. Oh, I know, there was a woman on my bus saying these things the other day!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Feb 2020

She was rattling on non-stop (not sure if she was talking on the phone or to another person, I couldn't quite see, but she was doing all the talking). Ignored the fact that Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, John Conyers had all worked hard on improving access to healthcare for years (Teddy wanted single-payer healthcare, or I guess it might even have been called socialized medicine) going back decades.

No, to this woman, Bernie was the "OG" as far as healthcare went. I'm not about to get into a scrap on the bus, commuting is beastly enough as it is lately, but I did just sit there fuming until she got off. She wasn't young either, so she really had no excuse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
17. These are real sanders supporters
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
5. And they wonder why we don't see Sanders as the "unity" candidate.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:11 AM
Feb 2020

With friends like those....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
18. That Iggy account is an obvious bot.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
40. Those both look like they could be fake ...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:36 PM
Feb 2020

This is exactly the kind of thing bots and troll farms would do.

Not saying they ARE, or that ALL the people doing this are disingenuous ... BUT ...

Personally I care a lot more about how 100%-known Sanders surrogates, campaign staff and sometimes Bernie himself ... are conducting themselves.

Shit happening on Twitter should really not be trusted unless it's someone 'known'.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
44. Bros are trending #PrimaryWarren because Liz exposed Bernie's hypocrisy.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
4. When I read the title I thought oh no she went off on bernie
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:10 AM
Feb 2020

But actually she was factual, pleasant and professional. Good for her! VP warren!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
14. Warren told the truth about sanders and is now being attacked
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
42. I'm not cool with that at all!!!!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LexVegas

(6,059 posts)
6. And yet Warren won't engage the front runner. Curious that. nt
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:21 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
10. She did a little bit at the last debate but
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

deflects for him a lot , too. I agree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
11. Shutter Twitter
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:16 AM
Feb 2020

It helps not.
Use it only as an emergency broadcast system if you must

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
12. I don't want to primary her, but it is obviously disappointing for her to go against the
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:19 AM
Feb 2020

principle of whoever gets the most votes being the nominee, rather than party insiders overruling the will of the voters. Not only is it undemocratic, but it's also just bad strategy if we want to defeat Trump.

Also, most of the #primarywarren tweets I've seen are from Bernie-bashers complaining about it and insulting "Bernie Bros", often with abusive language.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
16. You mean YOU are disappointed that she stands by the rules that she agreed to?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

And Bernie helped write?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
31. She changed her position
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
41. No she is willing to abide by the rules she agreed to...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,043 posts)
51. No. Personal opinion aside, she agreed to the rules.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:58 PM
Feb 2020

How is agreeing to abide by the rules changing your personal opinion and your mind?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Movbez4

(34 posts)
35. So
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

you're upset that she is actually speaking the truth? The Bernie supporters are becoming like the Trump supporters, vicious attacks on anyone that doesn't support their candidate. Why on earth would you primary Warren, I don't support her for President, but I feel she has been a huge asset for the DEM party. This is why I can't get behind Sanders, he is not a person that can unite the party, but instead seems to be on a mission to alienate anyone that doesn't support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
37. Bernie didn't write the rules, Bernie didn't want superdelegates at all.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:27 PM
Feb 2020

Like I said, I don't want to primary Warren. I like her. But what she said about Bernie writing the rules isn't true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,138 posts)
50. Elizabeth schooled that sanders' supporter.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
15. If Sanders cannot lead his people then how the hell is going to lead the country
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:09 PM
Feb 2020

This has got to stop.. He needs to speak up.. and tell his people to put a lid on it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
19. You assume that Sanders has any control over anything..
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
21. I am beginning to wonder..
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
24. Some of his supporters seem to think he would have control over everything.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:15 PM
Feb 2020

He couldn't build a consensus in Congress over the past couple decades on any of his major plans, but he's suddenly going to have a magic wand as president, I guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
26. From what I saw at the National Conventiion, sanders does not try to control his supporters
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016



Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.



sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
20. He did tell them to.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

He can't control bots and random supporters not part of his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
25. These are not bots Oliver.. people who surround cars.. yelling at people in meetings
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

dragging in coffins.. orders are coming out of headqtrs.. and that headqtrs is the Sanders campaign. For whatever reason, he is not putting that word out there...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
29. Can you please show me where Bernie told people to go do those things?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
32. Can you show me where he didn't?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

If he is rehiring the same gang that blew it up in 2016.. then the buck stops there!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
34. The burden is on you to prove it.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

I can't prove a negative.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,138 posts)
49. look who sanders' top staff is.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
33. This is my experience
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

I have told this story before but it happened to me in the 2016 caucus..

I was supposed to give a 5 minute speech for O'Malley.. (all of the precinct captains were giving small speeches for their candidate ..presenting their proposals...) and the Bernie contingency booed my down after 1 minute. Never in my life have I ever experienced anything like that at a caucus


And this year, they just all walked out in mass (I think the captains just told them to leave) which is fine..but the captains did not come in to talk to any of the other candidates supporters... that is why he lost Iowa...

My entire family went with Elizabeth (even though we are philosophically apart, we felt she would be a wonderful person to support and lead our Iowa caucus) and Pete got the delegates.

They are their own worst enemies.. my way or the highway.. the same group that was always holding Obamas feet to the fire..

And Bernie cannot seem to lead this rowdy group.. He never says anything or worst yet does a version of they all good people.. both sides do it (they don't) And he hires back the same people who could not even bother to vote Democratic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
22. It's trending #21 now
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

And if you actually look at the tweets, all the most popular ones aren't from Bernie Bros, and ate trashing the hashtag.

It's cute how it was trending before most Americans were even out of bed though.

Maybe, I dunno, THINK?

We have to do better than this kneejerking bullshit y'all. For real. For really real.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
30. They started trending very early East Coast time
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

which is prime-time for Russian bots.

Why are so many posters here amplifying Russian propaganda?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
23. I am amused by this trending topic on twitter
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
27. Nothing new
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

Whenever the facts aren't on their side, they lash out. It's the immaturity we've seen before.
We can be thankful as long as it remains on Twitter. Recent news of their actual bullying and threatening of others are more worrying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
28. I guarantee you this is Russian bots fueling this.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

That's what they do. This topic trended too fast and has too many random accounts posting it to be legitimate.

We need to stop amplifying this division. This is what Russia wants.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
38. It's past time for Sen. Warren to train some fire on Sen. Sanders' supporters
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:28 PM
Feb 2020

I greatly appreciate her utter destruction of Michael Bloomberg, who looked - in both debates - like he was seeing oncoming headlights and had no idea what to do. But, for once finding myself in agreement with Chris Matthews of all people, I have been confused as to why Warren has not gone after Sanders. She can displace him as the "non-moderate" (they're all liberals so I'm tired of this lingo but use if here for clarity) candidate if she goes after him, while any Bloomberg hits she makes probably benefit Biden. So . . . this is good and I'm glad to see her doing it.

I also agree that the Russians and other bad actors are stirring this up. But this is also what contested primaries look like.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
43. Why is #PrimaryWarren trending?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. This guy isn't from SC. Anyone know who he works for?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020

As for the trending against her, what a nasty camp. Aligning with them is not only immoral, they're potentially dangerous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
46. It's hilarious because literally EVERY TIME
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020

they're *this* close to securing a virtually unbeatable alliance with Warren, they go out and fuck it up...

I've stopped worrying about St. Bern because his own people are going to kneecap his momentum just like four years ago...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,138 posts)
48. From your keyboard to all the positive
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:41 PM
Feb 2020

stars in the Universe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
52. Warren calling Bernie Sanders a massive failure.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:30 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
53. Omg, thanks for posting!
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:24 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
54. Love her or hate her, but Warren is a straight shooter.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:30 AM
Mar 2020

She always has been. You'd think they'd respect that.

And, if not that, you'd think they'd respect the massive contributions her career has made to the very issues they support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
56. Wow... it is depressing to see supporters of any Dem candidate unwillling to accept truth about
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

their own candidate--to refuse to go independently check the facts, and instead act like some supporters of another we know by lashing out at the messenger. This is disheartening albeit I do believe bots are amplifying.

Every candidate has flaws and makes mistakes, but let us don't lash out instead of questioning our own understanding.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
57. sanders supporters are upset
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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