Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders in 2016 says HE wanted Super Delegates to switch votes to him though Hillary had majority.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,783 posts)I hate a man who whines. I also dislike one who changes the rules to benefit themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(12,443 posts)Same old, same old.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,665 posts)The facts arent in dispute that he opposed superdelegates and was just trying to work within the existing system. He subsequently tried to change the system to get rid of superdelegates altogether as inherently un Democratic, same as now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
question everything
(51,848 posts)It is that the party quickly changed the rules to accommodate him and to include him in the ballot without even demanding that he first change his registration.
If the nominee, will he change it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(19,843 posts)Because...REASONS!1!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,918 posts)Without the Super Delegates, though, it is not true that "Clinton had the majority needed to win." If she had, the SD discussion would have been moot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)and she had a clear majority. It's kind of unfair to include the relatively high number of super delegates in the equation and then argue she couldn't win without them. Yeah, technically it's true, you need to make up these 500 SDs with a larger lead in pledged delegates and she wasn't that far away from doing that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(6,533 posts)the way the regular folks did in their states. He said that any state that was very close, he urged the dels to decide and vote for him if they thought he was better able to beat Trump. He did not ask any dels from states won strongly by Clinton to vote for him. By asking dels from the states he WON - he was asking for democracy.
It made a big difference. Couple of examples:
NH Bernie won 60.14% of vote. 6 of 7 super dels went to Clinton
CO Bernie won 59% but all 9 super delegates went to Clinton
MN Bernie won 62% but 13 of the 14 super delegates went to Clinton
MA was Clinton 49 to Sanders 48% but 21 of 22 super del went to Clinton
KS Bernie won 67% but all 4 supers went to Clinton
NB Bernie 57% but 3 of 4 supers went to Clinton
ME 65% but 4 of 5 went to Clinton
There's more but you get the drift. So . . . really not wrong for Bernie to ask the super dels to vote in his favor.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LenaW
(51 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(6,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(6,533 posts)to all the clips the Washington Post put together.
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You need to go through the whole thread to see what was left out of each of the WaPo clips if you are interested.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,516 posts)
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(10,237 posts)Hillary won a MAJORITY of the delegates -- she didn't need superdelegates at all to push her over the top. Sanders was the one trying to get superdelegates to overturn the will of the MAJORITY of both voters and delegates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(58,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(150,877 posts)Didn't work, though, did it? Rules are good, as long as they benefit the person who wants them to be in force. The minute they don't, the same person doesn't like the rules.
There's a word for that...let me think...starts with "hypo..."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(10,237 posts)...seemed to regularly appear on Russia Today back in 2016.
Now that we have hindsight and know all that Russia was doing to interfere in our elections on behalf of Trump AND Sanders/Stein, this is especially troubling looking back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)you want the Russian bot farms to push.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(92,839 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(176,698 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(28,890 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(53,433 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
