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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:31 PM Feb 2020

Post and Courier Poll: Biden 28% Sanders 24% Steyer 16% Warren 12%




The Post and Courier Poll is considered by many to be the bellwether poll for the SC Primary.


Man o man, this Saturday is going to be exciting!

Fingers crossed that Warren can break 15% and get some SC delegates heading into Super Tuesday.

Right now Warren is in 2nd place in delegate rich California!


Best of luck to everyone and their preferred candidates!

(And isn't it nice that Bloomberg isn't on the ballot in SC?)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Post and Courier Poll: Biden 28% Sanders 24% Steyer 16% Warren 12% (Original Post) bluewater Feb 2020 OP
Bookmarking the Bellweather for future reference Peacetrain Feb 2020 #1
That's the Change Research outlier Metodiko Feb 2020 #2
Change Research was one of the most accurate pollsters for Iowa this year. bluewater Feb 2020 #5
No, they weren't. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6
Here's the hard number analysis of the Iowa polling. Change research did VERY well. bluewater Feb 2020 #8
Nate Silver responds to Elliot Metodiko Feb 2020 #10
Yet some how, Change Research had the second lowest error in polling Iowa. lol bluewater Feb 2020 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #19
A plus marist poll also has Biden up 4 pts 2 days ago. Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #11
Wecome to DU. I am new here like you. Lunch Lady Feb 2020 #13
Agree 100 Bucky Feb 2020 #17
The other Democrats running also care about working people like your family. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #23
Worth noting that the progressive combo is more than Biden... jimlup Feb 2020 #3
Hold on Bucky Feb 2020 #18
I hope so. She is the best from where I observe jimlup Feb 2020 #21
She's like EVERYBODY'S second choice Bucky Feb 2020 #22
Change Research isn't the bellwether of anything. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #4
Do keep up, Change Research was one of the best polls for Iowa this year! bluewater Feb 2020 #7
*snort* Codeine Feb 2020 #16
elelctiom pamdb Feb 2020 #9
How's that bellwether looking tonight? TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14
"The polls are what the polls are." Codeine Feb 2020 #15
Yep!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #20
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
1. Bookmarking the Bellweather for future reference
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Metodiko

(11 posts)
2. That's the Change Research outlier
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:38 PM
Feb 2020

Post and Courier sounds fancy and serious but that's just the name of the news outlet.
The pollster is the low-quality Change Research.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
5. Change Research was one of the most accurate pollsters for Iowa this year.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

But, as I always say...

The polls are what the polls are.

And we won't have to wait months to find out who is correct, voting is on Saturday!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
6. No, they weren't.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

They had Sanders +8 in their last poll before the caucus. Really accurate, that.

https://www.changeresearch.com/post/pollercoaster-2020-sanders-leads-by-8-points-in-iowa-caucuses

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. Here's the hard number analysis of the Iowa polling. Change research did VERY well.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:50 PM
Feb 2020

Lower numbers are better in this table:




The polls are what the polls are.

The data speaks for itself, Change Research did very well predicting Iowa.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Metodiko

(11 posts)
10. Nate Silver responds to Elliot
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. Yet some how, Change Research had the second lowest error in polling Iowa. lol
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:06 PM
Feb 2020

Hey, I would love to see Nate's actual analysis of those pollsters' performance in Iowa.

Did he put up any real numbers on it anywhere?

A table of mean absolute errors, like G. Elliot did?

If you have a link, would you please share it. Thanks.




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I am off to google that.

Enjoy your evening!











If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bluewater (Reply #12)

 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
11. A plus marist poll also has Biden up 4 pts 2 days ago.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lunch Lady

(32 posts)
13. Wecome to DU. I am new here like you.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders is a good man.

He cares about working people like my family.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
17. Agree 100
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:18 PM
Feb 2020

I'll take any one of our candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
23. The other Democrats running also care about working people like your family.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
3. Worth noting that the progressive combo is more than Biden...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

I was with Elizabeth but I don't see her winning it at the moment. I wish wish wish. She is so excellent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
18. Hold on
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020

She's not out yet. She's been behind before. But nevertheless she's persisted

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
21. I hope so. She is the best from where I observe
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
22. She's like EVERYBODY'S second choice
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020

She's perfect for holding the party together in the fall.

I seriously hope I'm overestimating how divided we'll be in the fall. Honestly, I could live with a Biden or Bernie presidency. I just worry that one won't do enough and the other won't get enough done.

He's probably the best choice for Bernie, but I'm already cringing at the jokes about "Sanders-Castro 2020"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
4. Change Research isn't the bellwether of anything.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

They're one of the lower ranked polls (C) that 538 still includes in the totals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. Do keep up, Change Research was one of the best polls for Iowa this year!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

Lower numbers are better in this table:




The polls are what the polls are.

Seriously, there is no need to try an "unskew" them.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
9. elelctiom
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:54 PM
Feb 2020




Steyer. Amy, Pete and Bloomberg need to GET OUT and throw their support to Biden.
Maybe one of them can land the VPslot.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. How's that bellwether looking tonight?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. "The polls are what the polls are."
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:17 PM
Feb 2020

And sometimes, they’re crappy outlier shit that should be disregarded.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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