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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:41 AM Feb 2020

If we're going to win in November,

We can’t come out of the convention divided. If it gets ugly, if a huge chunk of the party feels cheated, we will not have time to mend those wounds before Election Day. I get the concerns about Sanders (I honestly had hoped he’d sit this one out) but please ask yourself... honestly... *if* he’s clearly the front runner... are you absolutely certain the elusive moderate Republicans/Independents/Dems you may draw in with someone else will outweigh the Bernie supporters who will be so turned off by the process if he doesn’t get the nom after coming in to the convention ahead (Assuming a hefty lead, not a slim one)?

“Stop Bernie at all costs” can be just as dangerous as “Bernie or Bust”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If we're going to win in November, (Original Post) TDale313 Feb 2020 OP
Vote Blue Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #1
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. TDale313 Feb 2020 #2
Yes Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #3
Placating intimidators & bullies is the worst path forward. delisen Feb 2020 #4
. Go Vols Feb 2020 #5
Barack Obama has his work cut out for him. Laelth Feb 2020 #6
 

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
1. Vote Blue
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:45 AM
Feb 2020

There is no other remedy for it. I will fight hard and vote for whoever gets the nomination and that includes candidates that I am not particularly happy with, like Bloomberg. If Bernie is the nominee, I will fight for him and vote for him. If Biden is the nominee, I will fight for him and vote for him. If Warren is the nominee, I will fight for her and vote for her. And so on. It is as simple as that. Vote Blue, no matter who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. Oh, I agree wholeheartedly.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:49 AM
Feb 2020

And obviously have my preferences. And yeah, it looks like it may go to a brokered convention. At which point how things are handled by everyone involved (candidates, campaigns, supporter) will be critical. Getting the nomination may be a first goal, but it’s not the goal. Beating Trump is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
3. Yes
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:56 AM
Feb 2020

I agree with you also. It is like the Chinese Proverb- "May you be cursed to live in interesting times." Whatever the outcome, it has been something to chew on for politics junkies like myself.

But seriously, we must stop Trump at all costs. To do that we will need a cease fire between different factions in the Party. Hopefully we will not wound ourselves to the point we can't fight Trump effectively. There does seem to be a lot of bad blood amongst us here. We will need to overcome it, and pretty soon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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delisen

(6,043 posts)
4. Placating intimidators & bullies is the worst path forward.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

Placating the disappointed is a separate matter. If Sanders and his team have a responsibility to educate his followers now about the rules he agreed to; the followers also have a responsibility to educate themselves. Do we really think it is necessary to dumb down our process? I don't think it is. I think the Sanders followers are intelligent and capable of understanding the rules.

The issue is whether Sanders and his team insiders are going to choose to model the democratic process or inflame.


What seems to be happening now is that we are being turned into a focus group-to see whether there may be some winning arguments to be made for breaking the rules. But instead of this being done transparently, it is being done as a manipulation.

Time might be better spent in registering people to vote in November and helping them get to the polls






If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. Barack Obama has his work cut out for him.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 10:44 AM
Feb 2020

When all the voting at the convention is done, it will be his task to convince some disappointed delegates, and the party as a whole, to rally around and support the party's nominee.

I have every reason to believe that he will rise to the occasion.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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