Bernie is still projected to get most of the delegates

[Legends303]

Come super Tuesday so Buttigieg dropping out doesn’t change the fact. People already voted early in California and Texas. Biden hasn’t really run much ads in the Super Tuesday states and it’s not changing the fact Bernie will have a large delegate lead after Tuesday.

[Gravitycollapse]

1. Let's not count our chickens before they roost.

I'm increasingly conservative about Tuesday given Biden's SC performance.

[bitterross]

12. Does it feel trollish or Russian lately?

Asking for a friend?

[Gravitycollapse]

15. To be honest, seems like a ton of trollish/bully behavior from every camp right now on DU.

Clearly a vicious cycle, but we need to break the cycle collectively.

[msongs]

21. oddly enough the the trolling seems to have a decidedly anti-establishment tone nt

[Gravitycollapse]

26. Do you not see the irony in your post?

[sheshe2]

44. Nope.

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15. To be honest, seems like a ton of trollish/bully behavior from every camp right now on DU.

You have a link for this? I have only seen it from one.

[Cha]

53. thanks, she..

smh

[sheshe2]

54. Late.

Done with the bull.

I hear ya, Cha.

Sleep tight.

[rzemanfl]

2. K, bro. We'll see. n/t

[George II]

4. It's only an hour or so since he dropped out.

[still_one]

5. If he gets 1991 delegates then he's the nominee, if not then it is an open convention

[OrlandoDem2]

6. Biden doesn't need to run ads. He's getting free media through Tuesday at least.

After the win in SC and the withdrawal of Steyer and Buttigieg, the talking heads will be talking about Biden for 48 hours.

I myself an still in wait and see mode. Early voting starts in FL in a few days but it doesn’t mean I’ll vote early. I’m waiting until the last second on this.

[Blue_true]

39. I don't plan to early vote until around March 12 in Florida.

I am down to Biden and Warren. Even if Liz is still in it, if I see Biden can have a big primary day in Florida, I am voting for Biden.

[Codeine]

7. I think he'll likely get the lion's share

of delegates on Tuesday, but it won’t be an insurmountable lead, and there’s clearly momentum on Joe’s side with plenty more races yet to come.

[rzemanfl]

28. I will trade you a couple of letters. n/t

[evertonfc]

8. that's ok.... 1991?

If not, see you at the convention. FYI- not a Democratic Socialist convention

[pnwmom]

9. Bernie 1.0 thought it wasn't enough for a Dem nominee to get even the MAJORITY of

pledged delegates.

Now Bernie 2.0 is pushing the idea that, for him, having a mere plurality should be enough.

Too bad he's not been doing more outreach to the party whose support he'll need.

[Demsrule86]

16. +10000 Right you are...nice to be on the same side...but then we always are really!

[pnwmom]

35. We have the same ultimate goal -- unlike some people.

We're not trying to destroy anything. The only question is who's best to fix things.

[Demsrule86]

49. Exactly, I will vote for any nominee...just want Trump gone and Democrats who care about the country

back power...and I think any of our candidates including Sanders whom I personally dislike would be better than Trump...any of them will have my vote in a general.

[sweetloukillbot]

34. No, it's about hypocrisy nt

[pnwmom]

36. Correct. She made the point very well in the debate. n/t

[Blue_true]

40. It will be interesting to see what Bernie says if Biden in coming to the convention

with the most pledged delegates and popular vote. I am sure that Bernie will start screaming his "corrupt process" mantra and the Bernie hardcore will believe that BS.

[lapucelle]

55. If only there had been an outreach chair...N/T

[Skidmore]

58. Thank you.

well said.

[AGeddy]

10. Counterpoints

1. The people that voted early in CA and TX are, by definition, those less likely to change their votes. The "persuadables" and undecideds, by definition, didn't vote yet. And the early vote in CA so far is only about 20% of the expected vote.

2. If Sanders' delegate lead after Tuesday is less than 200, then Biden will surpass him by the end of the race.

3. Buttigieg dropping out made it more likely that Warren and Bloomberg get over 15% in big states like CA and TX, which will limit Sanders' delegate haul. It was better for Sanders when there were more people in, because then possibly none of them cleared 15% and Bernie would get all the delegates.

4. There is virtually no chance that Bernie goes into Milwaukee with 1991+ delegates now. And if he doesn't have a majority, he won't end up getting the nomination - because he has pissed off supporters of the other candidates so much, they'll never coalesce around him to get him to 50%.

[Blue_true]

42. If 80% of voters have withheld their vote, that should set off alarm bells for Bernie.

In the early weeks, he had all the monentum, so 80% of voters waiting likely mean they are not sold on him. The only question is how much of that 80% Biden picks up. My guess is Biden picks up a massive haul of that 80%.

[Demsrule86]

48. Yes...they were looking for someone else instead of Bernie.

[dansolo]

60. I think Bloomberg support will actually go down

Bloomberg's support was mostly from people thinking that Biden was fading. With him having the momentum now, I think a lot of Bloomberg's support will go back to Biden.

[Blue_true]

63. I agree. That was the near exact reason why I dallied with supporting Bloomberg, Biden and

Warren seemed to be faltering.

[Demsrule86]

11. I disagree...lots more votes out there...some held their vote waiting for Carolina...and any poll is

unreliable as Carolina changes everything and I believe Biden will be fine on Super Tuesday...country is realizing a Sanders in the General means a Trump in the White house for four more years.

[emmaverybo]

22. +1000

[Demsrule86]

27. Hi Emmaverybo! Great Sunday...really felt better after yesterday!

[emmaverybo]

33. Oh me too.

[NYMinute]

13. Bernie? bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt

[ArtTownsend]

19. Yes. Working class people don't want the rich to have the stranglehold they do now.

[NYMinute]

20. bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nt

[ArtTownsend]

23. If Biden is nominated, Trump will win.

[Demsrule86]

31. No, If Sanders is nominated Trump wins which is why Trump committed treason to manufacture

dirt on Biden. Also, most recently, he said Bernie was the weakest candidate and wants his folks to vote for him in open primaries.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Sorry to say... but very true.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Clash City Rocker]

57. You misspelled "Bernie" there

[Amishman]

62. I think either Bernie or Biden can beat Trump

Once we stop beating ourselves up, there is a big easy orange target waiting for us to pummel.

Just look at the polls right now (even with our internal bickering). Merist pop from yesterday puts NC in play with a slight D lead with both Bernie and Biden. East Carolina poll also out Biden in front and Bernie competitive.

Merist puts Texas as competitive with both.l, as dies the UTT poll.

YouGov puts both at +6 or better head to head with Trump.

We might have our preferences, but both finalists can definitely win and should win against Trump.

[msongs]

24. bernie is rich lol, so are liz and joe. must be a consipiracy of rich stranglers lol nt

[emmaverybo]

37. What pro-working class legislation has Bernie got done? He wasn't even paying his own workers

Sufficiently. The working and middle class spoke—in S.C.

[ArtTownsend]

38. The famous swing state of South Carolina!

[emmaverybo]

50. Biden won liberal, very liberal, moderate, conservative, young and older voters, AA and white, POC,

men and women, from a variety of socio-economic backgrounds, working, middle-class, poor. Throw in some wealthy too. He won across diverse groups, demographics, and across the political spectrum.

Looks like America to me.

[dem4decades]

14. Pete dropping out increases Biden's chances of reaching 15% in California, that's big.

[nolabear]

17. That's okay. As Kobe Bryant once said to my son...

When my son was about thirteen he and my husband were in their season’s ticket seats at a Seattle Sonics game. They won a drawing for an all expense paid trip to LA to see the Lakers and Sonics play. The tickets belonged to the owner so they were right behind the Lakers’ bench in full Sonic regalia, my kid yelling like mad for the Sonics, who got their asses handed to them. They got a lot of ribbing from the players. I’m told at one point Kobe went back to my kid, clapped him on the back and said “That’s okay man. You cheer for your team.”

[Demsrule86]

30. Nolabear that is a great story.

[nolabear]

43. Isn't it though? And now so poignant.

And hey, people should.

[Demsrule86]

46. I bet your son remembers that forever.

It is good advice.

[yardwork]

61. That is a great story and a great reminder. Thanks for that.

[Me.]

25. Not Really

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287608424

[TexasTowelie]

32. Those projections are based primarily upon polls that occurred

prior to the SC primary and I suspect some of those were from before the last debate. Given that two candidates withdrew from the race, that Biden is currently surging, and that Bernie has underperformed the polls in three out of the four states, I would not be exuding such confidence about Bernie's situation. The worst part is that after Super Tuesday, there will be another group of southern states voting later in March and Bernie will likely have abysmal showings in all of them.

[onetexan]

56. Spot on. Southern & Rustbelt states still to go, and they're all Biden-leaning.

[Happy Hoosier]

41. You may be right.

But then again, if there is one thing SC showed me that s that those of us who think Sanders spells electoral suicide don’t have to just sit back and let it happen. Biden wasn’t my first or even second choice. But he is a principled Democrat who can win (IMO) and right now that is what matters most to me. I will support him until we have a clear nominee. If it Sanders, I will vote for him. But that is about all I can say.

[Demsrule86]

47. Biden is getting more coverage than any ads he could run because of his huge win

in the Carolina Primary and now with Pete dropping out,they will be discussing the effect on super Tuesday until well super Tuesday And he has plenty of money at the moment...ten million raised in two days. As for the projections, we shall see.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

52. Many voter have held back early voting ballots this year

The vote for Bernie is not as locked in as you profess. The major windfall in SC was what many in California (including me) were waiting for.

And Texas was Biden & Sanders neck and neck before SC. Biden may win Texas now.

[MrsCoffee]

59. Most people I know here in California have not voted yet.

They have been waiting for someone to break through who has the best chance to take us back to normal.

Looks like they are jumping on the Joe bandwagon after SC.