Republicans voting in S. Carolina? Maybe 5%

[underpants]

I was going to ask this as an open question but then I found this.


Despite Trump’s urging, an exit poll from the Washington Post showed just 5 percent of registered Republicans actually voted in the primary, a number too small for pollsters to give details on which Democratic candidate received the most votes from that group. Registered Democrats made up 70 percent of everyone who voted in the primary, while independent voters accounted for 26 percent, according to that poll.

Both South Carolina Democrats and independents voted for former Vice President Joe Biden over Sanders; 54 percent of registered Democrats voted for Biden compared to 18 percent who voted for Sanders, and 35 percent of independents voted for Biden, compared to 23 percent who voted for Sanders.

But that support apparently has limits. If Trump’s theory was that he could get his supporters to juice Sanders’s South Carolina numbers enough to change the outcome of the Democratic primary, he was wrong. Biden’s South Carolina victory was decisive, especially among black voters, who made up over half of the voters on Saturday. Overall, the former vice president received nearly 50 percent of the vote.

So while Trump remains an overwhelmingly popular and influential figure in South Carolina politics, the Democratic primary also served as a reminder that there are limits to what Trump can convince his Republican supporters to do.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/1/21159956/trump-south-carolina-republicans-vote-democratic-primary

[DonaldsRump]

1. Why do they allow cross-over voting?

Not a rhetorical question...I am curious.

[jimfields33]

2. It's weird because even republicans don't like it

Some republicans thought this would convince whoever to have closed primaries. Obviously it didn’t work.

[underpants]

3. Virginia is the same way

That's how Cantor lost to Brat in 2014. There was no Dem primary because they didn't see the need to spend money against Cantor. However in an open primary many Dems like myself took full advantage of another chance to vote against Cantor. Brat's margin exactly equaled if 5% of the people in the 7th who voted for Obama (140,000) voted against Cantor.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Pennsylvania the same way

It's useful to local elections where a few hundred temporary flippers can squeeze a candidate off the ballot. It helps suppress fringe candidates in both parties in that respect.

[Amishman]

8. ??? PA has closed primaries

You need to actually change your registration well ahead of the election

[bucolic_frolic]

17. 30 days. Same thing. /nt

[Towlie]

22. Good question! A Republican would presumably vote for the candidate easiest for Trump to beat.

[thesquanderer]

23. Not necessarily. A Republican who does not like trump (and there are many) would want to...

...vote for the Dem who he would most like to vote for in November as someone who is at least a better choice than Trump would be.

[bearsfootball516]

4. Basically, "operation chaos" is likely overblown.

The amount of Republicans that would have to come out to make an actual difference has to be pretty large, and there just aren't enough Republicans that care that much to come out and vote in a Democratic primary.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Reminds me of the idea that people vote illegally like

trump says happens. But throw in the possibility of jail time if you are caught. How many would risk that?

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Trump is pushing on a string there

Maybe Bernie got 1% extra from Republicans, but maybe .3% too.

Trump DEMONIZES Democrats every day, how does he expect his followers to go out and cast even a primary ballot for any one of them? These are voters who bifurcate everything into Jesus vs the Devil, and they view Democrats as the Devil.

"Go vote for one of the Devils" puts Trump in cahoots with Satan.

[brutus smith]

7. So much for the trump helping Bernie conspiracy.

[sweetloukillbot]

10. That 5% could've gotten him viability

while It probably didn't make a difference statewide It probably helped get viable in the districts and squeeze a few more delegates.

[NewJeffCT]

16. Yes

19.9% becomes 14.9% if those 5% were not able to cross over and vote. 14.9% is below the viability threshold.

[NurseJackie]

9. Even 1% could cause a poorly performing candidate to get delegates they may not have deserve.

Even 1% could cause a poorly performing candidate to get delegates they may not have deserve. Open primaries and cross-over voting and same-day party-switching need to be eliminated (and caucuses need to go to.)

[yaesu]

11. Yep, all the panic threads about repukes voting for Bernie, the sky is falling, end times are coming

and now you know why you never, ever listen to what MSNBS or any other corporate tool network says, which is all of them

[padah513]

12. Yep

But 5% was just enough for him to hit the 15% threshold... if it happened of course. Imagine that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. And, if these people are dishonest enough to vote

In our primary, what's to say they wouldn't lie on an exit poll?

[Lucky Luciano]

20. Some could also despise fuckface and genuinely want to vote in the Dem primary...

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...without going through the hassle of changing parties.

I, for one want to remain steadfastly independent, but I always vote for Democrats. I have too many compliance hoops to jump through to ever donate and I don’t want to be on anybody’s list.

[RandiFan1290]

14. Nice to keep in the pocket

For a convenient excuse

[Farmer-Rick]

13. Thanks for posting this info, it confirms what I thought

Though in TN, we once had crossover voters so high that they elected a former KKK dipshit as a nominee for a district. It works where there is heavy gerrymandering and there is tons of voter suppression and intimidation.

It doesn't have much of an impact without other types of voting system corruption.

And now in East TN we even have paper ballot back ups.

[Cary]

15. Asked to put down their opioids and get up off their couches, Magats decline

[honest.abe]

21. This is probably good news going forward with other states with open primary.

Sounds like "operation chaos" is going to be "operation fail".