Biden has no ground game in California

[Legends303]

He only has 1 office in California. Bernie sanders has 23 offices in California. This is going to be a cake walk for Sanders winning California overwhelmingly.

[Under The Radar]

1. Like they say, if the ground game isn't working ....

....Gotta start passing the ball.

[Celerity]

26. or call in Naval Intelligence

[abqtommy]

2. Let's see how it plays out. Joe's got JOEMENTUM!

[beachbumbob]

3. so if sanders doesn't win overwhelmingly its a victory for Biden right?

I guess we will see won't we?

[LizBeth]

32. That is what I heard. If not a landslide it is Sanders fail.

Biden didn't even try.

Really Biden, bad..... Just saying.

But still, overwhelming landslide or a loss.

[beachbumbob]

40. biden express demolished sanders in Virginia

the same Virginia Sanders was going to win easily 2 weeks ago

[LizBeth]

41. Ha. Thank you. I keep going back to look at the numbers predicted.

I can't retain info so well, so thank you.

[beachbumbob]

42. I said a 10% margin by Biden is a huge victory in Virginia

didn't expect near 30%

[stewrat]

4. Cakewalk? Seems to me I've heard that somewhere before. Oh yeah, Bush's

dumbass Iraqi invasion was going to be a cakewalk too.

[Amishman]

7. My thoughts exactly

Plus bloomberg has sunk tens of millions into the state and appears to be in the final stages of implosion.

campaign offices and wild spending don't matter when they are for the wrong candidate.

[Pacifist Patriot]

5. How many field offices did they each have in SC?

[jimfields33]

12. Biden had 40. Sanders 3.

Although Biden lived South Carolina mostly out of all the states.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mcclatchydc.com/latest-news/article229680444.html

[Pacifist Patriot]

19. Not sure where you are getting your numbers, but...

Sanders' website lists 9 field offices in SC.

ETA: The article you link to is from April 2019 and does not address field offices, so I'm also not sure what your point is.

[Pacifist Patriot]

21. Your Biden number is also wrong.

Check campaign sources first.

[jimfields33]

22. Where do you go? The campaign site?

I just googled it. Obviously not the best way.

[Pacifist Patriot]

25. Yes, the candidates' campaign websites have....

"Find field office" functionality or geographical lists.

[jimfields33]

27. Thank you. That's awesome. I was clueless!

[bearsfootball516]

6. Nobody is debating if Sanders is going to win big in California.

The question is how much a dent does Biden make, and does Warren reach viability to siphon delegates from Sanders.

[Amishman]

9. I'm debating it! I think Joe has a decent chance of being within 5% of Sanders in CA

If it wasn't for early voting, I'd give him a good shot at winning CA outright

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. The premise of the OP is flawed.

Number of field offices doesn't reliably measure extent or effectivess of the ground game anymore. Nor does it predict voting results.

If that were the case, South Carolina would have turned out very differently indeed.

I find the post a bit baffling really.

[DarthDem]

28. I Am

This Biden supporter is hoping for a much closer contest than anticipated.

[msongs]

8. we shall see how bernie's attempt to buy the elction in CA works out, all those offices and all

likely biden will not beat him, but one office biden may do pretty well for his investment dollars

[jimfields33]

14. Sanders saved in South Carolina

Bernie worked hard in California.

[W_HAMILTON]

44. Well, wasn't that stupid of him.

Sanders is apparently taking money in hand over fist and yet he chose to "save money" in the exact state that ended any hope he had in the last nomination?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Hillary beat Barack convincingly in CA and still lost the nomination.

[onenote]

11. +1

[jimfields33]

16. California was way later in the campaign

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. The 2008 California Democratic primary took place on February 5, 2008.

[jimfields33]

20. Holy cow. That's amazing. I thought California moved up because

They thought they were being ignored.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. When you look at the states HRC won in 08 it's amazing she lost the delegate race.

Off the top of my head she won CA, TX, NY, and FL

[jimfields33]

24. You are right. She won the big delegate races for sure.

[StevieM]

34. I understand why you thought that. Here is the story with the California primary.

For many years the California primary marked the end of the primary season. It always came in June.

In 2000, the year that Al Gore went up against Bill Bradley, the state of California moved up their primary to Super Tuesday in early March. It remained there in 2004 and 2008.

For some reason, which I don't fully understand, the primary got moved back to June in 2016. In 2020 the state of California once again established an early March primary date as part of Super Tuesday.

[George II]

13. "Ground games" can either be exaggerated or ineffective. Perfect example is Iowa. Sanders said...

....he had 25,000 volunteers (ground game) across the state for months.

He finished second to Buttigieg and got only 45,000 votes, less than two per volunteer.

[dumptrump1]

15. and if bernie wins by less than 50 delegates, my guess is those 23 officers were a waste of money .

[DarthDem]

29. Ground game is

A term I'd like to see retired. There was some year when the Democrats' legendary "GROUND GAME" was going to do the GOPers in. We were repeatedly assured of this. I'm not sure if it was in 2012 (for Congressional races) or 2016. Maybe both. It didn't happen.

Maybe we can retire it in about a day.

[Turin_C3PO]

39. Ground game is important, though.

It’s why Obama won in 2008 and 2012.

[PubliusEnigma]

30. What does it mean then if Biden wins delegates with little to no presence?

[stopbush]

31. Yep. Sanders should do very well here in CA.

The only thing of interest is the impact Bloomberg will have on the delegate count.

[Moderateguy]

33. Let's not discount the positive impact of a ground game

A robust ground game is what helped Obama win in 2008.

[George II]

35. He has only one field office in Virginia, he won by 2-1 over Sanders.

[PatSeg]

43. Exactly

As improbable as it would have seemed!

[helpisontheway]

36. Whatever..I will be fine as long as Biden gets viability..nt

[NCProgressive]

37. California voters are more educated and more politically aware

Offices don't win elections. Voters do.

Bernie may very well win CA but not by much and will not get a big haul in delegates over Biden.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

38. May not need it. Lots of late breaking toward Biden