Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders didn't ask for Clyburn's endorsement before the South Carolina primary?
And his excuse is because he didn't think Clyburn would endorse him.
Seriously?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(43,850 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)All this 3-word - "blah, blah, establishment" is beginning to border on a charlatan mantra and sure doesn't work for me.
The sloganeering being recycled from 2016 is totally deaf and blind to the REALITY that one CANNOT conflate "establishment" with voters. And the voters are seeing and speaking. Thank goodness!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It just goes to illustrate the validity and truthfulness of what a famous person said recently in a Hulu special documentary...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-clinton-debuts-hulu-doc-at-sundance-addresses-bernie-sanders-comments-1272839
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(74,214 posts)supporting biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)I guarantee it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)30 years in Congress is an outsider?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Democrats did not fall for that before. They sure will not this time!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)Several SC political insiders and civil rights leaders reached out to Bernie's camp and offered their assistance helping him establish himself in the state and basically the response they got back was "Nah, we're good". Marc Thompson talked about this with guests from SC more than once. I was dumbfounded when I heard that!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(320,678 posts)and all the people who were honoring those who Marched on Bloody Sunday March 7, 1965?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)One of the worst.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(320,678 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(320,678 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(61,033 posts)It ain't gonna happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,449 posts)Didn't show up for Selma.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(98,476 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,388 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(54,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Did he indeed ask the endorsement of the most respected and powerful black man in the state of South Carolina before the South Carolina primary? If you think it was fine that he didn't reach out to him, why are you so upset that I mentioned it? And if you don't think it was ok, do you think it should be ignored?
And demanding that everyone "start uniting" the same day that Sanders spent trashing Biden is pretty rich.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)more important than the always reliable AA vote...and you know (whisper), 'those are Southern States'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(74,214 posts)the commenting will change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nycbos
(6,729 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(128,150 posts)Other than showing up for the debates in Atlanta and Houston, Bernie didn't campaign at all in the South during the second half of 2019. He snubbed the Essence festival in New Orleans. That isn't the way to build coalitions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(74,214 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(128,150 posts)The only New England states that haven't voted are Connecticut and Rhode Island.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Voters want change, they do not want Revolution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)Sanders better hope the Democratic Party lets him run as a Democratic candidate next time or he might lose a primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(54,903 posts)No, not really, Clyburn told The Daily Beast in an interview when asked if Sanders or his campaign staff did anything specific to court him ahead of the influential Feb. 29 primary.
I had a lot of conversations with almost every one of the candidates, he said, referencing nearly two dozen candidates, including Sanders, who attended his World Famous Fish Fry in Columbia in June.
But Clyburn acknowledged the outreach didnt go much beyond that.
I dont need to be courted, he said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(46,368 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,925 posts)Blacks supported Hillary and the states with large black populations basically seemed to shut Bernie out.
I was a Bernie supporter and watched it happen state after state.
Bernie tended to do well in the predominantly white states.
In Nevada this year, Bernie appears to have made some progress with Latinos.
That might be echoed by his results in California.
But the blacks in South Carolina slammed the door on him.
We saw it again last night in the states who were 15% or more black:
Alabama
North Carolina
Virginia
Tennessee
Arkansas
They basically seemed to say collectively "we're not having any part of you, Bernie!"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/#RACE
Exit poll shows 58% of blacks supported Biden, 17% supported Sanders - giving Biden a staggering +41 vs Sanders there.
Bernie may complain about "the Democratic establishment" shutting him out but the reality is, for whatever reason, blacks don't support him in the primary and they seem as big a reason as any he can't get over the top in the primary.
This provides serious headwinds for his 2020 primary chances because states with large black populations tend to be large delegate states. We saw this pattern in 2016 and it seems to be continuing in 2020.
Whatever overtures he attempted to address this clearly have not worked. And it has nothing to do with "the establishment".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(320,678 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Native
(7,389 posts)I have 2 family members who head large non-profits. They've both tried to work with Sanders over the years, and their opinion is that he is intractable, totally incapable of compromise. Just want people to know that it is his personality - that it extends beyond his ideologies. My way or the highway in another country would be a dictatorship. Here it would be a different kind of disaster.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I know the Sanders/Corbyn comparison gets overdone, but they have one very troubling similarity: they both want to win an election that's somehow set in 1979.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)which is a joke considering what he's gone through over the last 18 months ! On the contrary, Sanders is now going to be examined like he wasn't in 2016, and about time too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)In 40 years has a problem. The rest of us change often, even daily as we learn new facts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,232 posts)It's increasingly amazing to me that Sanders' idea of solidarity is so basic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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