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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:34 PM

 

Too little, too late: Sanders condemns his supporters' 'ugly, personal attacks' against Warren

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Wednesday that he is “disgusted” by any personal attacks his supporters or anyone else has lobbed at his presidential primary opponent Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow asked Sanders about attacks some of his supporters have made, tweeting images of snakes and even calling for Warren to be challenged in a primary in her next Massachusetts Senate election.

Sanders told Maddow he was “actually disgusted” and “aghast” by online vitriol directed at Warren...

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486052-sanders-condemns-his-supporters-ugly-personal-attacks-against-warren

So now that Warren is on her way toward exiting the campaign, Bernie is shocked, absolutely shocked, that a hardy band of his core supporters has been heaping abuse on her non-friggin-stop. This has only been going on his entire campaign, as if he didn’t know, and as supporters of any other candidate who got on Bernie World’s threat radar can tell you. But now that he wants Warren’s support he’s disgusted. Ok. Me too.

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Reply Too little, too late: Sanders condemns his supporters' 'ugly, personal attacks' against Warren (Original post)
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 OP
greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #1
relayerbob Mar 2020 #2
onetexan Mar 2020 #19
obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #34
Lulu KC Mar 2020 #3
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #4
BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #7
TomCADem Mar 2020 #5
blue-wave Mar 2020 #17
Cha Mar 2020 #6
Gothmog Mar 2020 #8
tavernier Mar 2020 #30
Gothmog Mar 2020 #35
Stuart G Mar 2020 #33
radical noodle Mar 2020 #9
deurbano Mar 2020 #14
Julian English Mar 2020 #10
C Moon Mar 2020 #12
Julian English Mar 2020 #15
William769 Mar 2020 #11
LizBeth Mar 2020 #13
onetexan Mar 2020 #21
LizBeth Mar 2020 #22
Post removed Mar 2020 #16
Jim_S Mar 2020 #20
ucrdem Mar 2020 #18
Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #23
NurseJackie Mar 2020 #24
R B Garr Mar 2020 #26
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #25
NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #27
empedocles Mar 2020 #28
zackymilly Mar 2020 #29
Stuart G Mar 2020 #31
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #32

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:36 PM

1. Wakey wakey

 

Emoji snakey.

Despicable.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

2. I was with Warren

 

before last night. But no way would I go to Sanders. Ever.

I think the whole narrative that Warren is siphoning off Sanders voters is inaccurate. I think most are seriously turned off to Sanders, and will move to where they feel appreciated, not threatened.

Plus, if we want to get anything done, we have to be part of the winning team.
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:37 AM

19. Yes, Warren's supporters would so well to support Biden now that she's ending her campaign

 

Bernie is being opportunistic as usual.
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:24 PM

34. 100% Warren supporter here, devastated she didn't win the nomination

 

Look who my preferred candidate is now.

For Joe all the way to November.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

3. Not to mention attacks on Joe, too!

 

They just seem mean in general--except about Trump. It's like he's no big deal.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:50 PM

4. Sanders is also shifting on who "establishment" is

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:55 PM

7. He's like the struggling, over-the-hill ball player who always treated the press badly

 

and finally realizes he could use their support:

“He only said hello when it was time to say goodbye.”
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:53 PM

5. Wow, waiting until after Super Tuesday. Way to Stand Up For His Principles

 

Classic BS.
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Response to TomCADem (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:31 AM

17. Yup. Classic BS from BS

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:53 PM

6. wow.. no other words.

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:49 AM

8. sanders refused to try to control his vetted delegates at the national convention

 

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016


Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.



sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused. I have trouble believing sanders now
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:56 PM

30. Wow.....

 

I’ve been a delegate in the past. It’s such an honor and privilege. I’ve never seen anyone act like the pigs you just described. What kind of local Dem party would choose them as their reps? Something reeks!
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Response to tavernier (Reply #30)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:24 PM

35. It was the sanders campaign who vetted and approved these delegates

 

It was not fun
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:17 PM

33. Thank You..for telling your story. I believe you. I don't believe Bernie Sanders.

 

..That is all there is. Are we going to believe our own, Gothmog or Bernie who is now changing his view of things?..Let's say that it was not Bernie, but Ralph Nader who helped Bush win in 2000. Would people here be supporting Ralph?. Yes, this is ugly and self defeating. Why didn't Bernie stop his people four years ago?
...And here is the key, and most important idea that I have:

..In September and October, things will get much uglier as we take on Trump. Trump will make this look like quiet picnic in May, compared to the worst hurricane you can imagine. I do not underestimate Trump, as I did before. With unlimited Russian backing (totally secret of course) Trump will not be as easy to beat as I once thought. I think the worst is yet to come. I can only imagine what that "worst" will be. But I honestly think we....ain't seen nothing yet !!!!
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:01 AM

9. Nothing about Pete? Or Biden?

 

All those who opposed BS were subjected to the hate.
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Response to radical noodle (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:43 AM

14. He knows he's not getting their voters, but he's delusional about support from Warren voters, too.

 

He'll get the minority for whom he was second best (which I'm sure has plummeted during the campaign), but that's a lot fewer than he and his followers seem to think. Then again, that wasn't their only miscalculation.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:01 AM

10. It's not just Warren that some BS lovers have attacked on Twitter

 

Thee are a huge number BS lovers go after anyone who disagrees with anything that attacks BS.

These BS Bros are worse than the tRump Twitter tRolls were in 2016 in IMHO.
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Response to Julian English (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:30 AM

12. Well, many of them are probably trolls (paid by Putin).

 

I saw it happen in 2016. I was behind Sanders, and fell for a lot of the "BS."
Then when I criticized Putin, they jumped all over me defending Putin.
It was very strange, because I had no idea of Russian trolls (this was a different website, of course. But it was going on here as well, to some degree).
This time around, we know better--well, some of us. They are trying their same tired tricks, but it's falling on deaf ears.
And I am beginning to see some newcomers here, who fit this bill.
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Response to C Moon (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:43 AM

15. Unfortunately, I've seen the accounts and many are not suggestive of Russians

 

I looked at about the Berner attack 100 accounts in the last two days after the attacks on me. (I try to look at all accounts before I block them.) At least 75% were probably really people who supported Sanders--and not Russians or bots or trollbots. Most were just *ssholes like MAGAts of the left.

Most BS supporters I know in person aren't this way. However, a sizeable percentage--20%--are.

I've had Berners argue that Liz W is just another Wall Street Republican--and I just grimace and run at the first chance.

I'm a doctor, and I've had Berners with no medical knowledge lecture me on why Bernie's heart attack doesn't matter.

These Bros (of all genders) are the real low information voters.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:27 AM

11. He realizes he's going to need her supporters.

 

That's the only reason he said what he said.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:32 AM

13. When you have voices like Cenk and Rogan and don't disassociate yourself, you are part of the

 

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problem. Just as I hold my Republicans friends to the Trumps and the right racism, I hold Sanders culpable with who he surrounds himself with. Not to mention his own anger and name calling. Defining our side in derogatory manners to pump the anger and dissent.
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Response to LizBeth (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:44 AM

21. I think u mean 'dissent' but yes so true

 

Sanders is using his run to sell books. This is how he & his wife made $ & became millionaires after 2016.
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Response to onetexan (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:05 AM

22. Thank you. Fixed.

 

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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:38 AM

20. WOW...

 

I have been big supporter of Bernie but I have never thought of myself as a member of a cult! I know a lot of Bernie supporters and have not met a single one that has acted in any way similar to the negative acts above. It's nuts to think that anyone would do such stupid sh*t. It should be condemned at every step. That being said, in all my time reading the DU I have never seen such a negative attitude directed toward anyone (that has a D by their name) like what is being thrown at Bernie. The Bernie hate early on was very surprising. I have only posted a few comments here but have been reading just about daily for years, so my voice, I'm sure means very little to anyone who may read this, but I thought some of you should know that all the negative stuff makes some, not all of you, sound like the people that you are calling out on the Bernie side. Some of you sound pretty vicious. I will vote for any Democrat over that orange piece of puss that is now staining the Whitehouse, but I like Bernie cause of his policies and his consistency. He has been for the same things for nearly 30 years. That means something to me, I'm 67 and retired for two years. He is what is he is, an FDR type Democrat that is an independent and that mistakenly has called himself a Democratic Socialist. So what. Isn't this about policy and what we want to do for our country? He has a very large 'grassroots' support, and call me crazy but I think that is what it will take to beat the 'rump'. As much as I think Joe is a nice guy I just don't think he can really stir the base. But time will tell and I hope I'm wrong. Oh, I hope I'm wrong. My fear is we may be looking at Hillary 2.0, but if it's Joe, he's got my vote for sure.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:34 AM

18. He has a lot to apologize for.

 

He's been at it for 28 years. Yes, I remember the cracks he used to make about the Clintons back when they were fresh kids on the block. He's never helped one bit with anything.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:12 AM

23. That might be believable if he led the interview by stating that rather than waiting to be asked

 

I call BS 😀
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:18 AM

24. It was yet another leadership test that BERNIE FAILED. Why is it that ONLY NOW...

 

It was yet another leadership test that BERNIE FAILED. Why is it that ONLY NOW he's willing to step up and "do the right thing". I think it's all a mater of motivation and determining who has the most to gain.

Previously, HE had the most to gain by saying nothing and not scolding or alienating his supporters. For, to do the right thing would risk having them leave.

Now that he wants (or needs) Warren's endorsement and her supporters... he's determined that HE BENEFITS MOST by doing what he should have done from the very beginning.

It's not a matter of doing the right thing for its OWN SAKE and doing it BECAUSE it's the right thing to do... somehow it always circles back to doing ONLY what benefits the campaign.

Well, that's just wrong. It's selfish and wrong. It's NOT the kind of thing that a respectful LEADER would do.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:47 PM

26. +++ Exactly what you said, NJ.

 

You always take the thoughts right out my mind and present them so perfectly!

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:44 PM

25. Indeed

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:49 PM

27. Don't see a single Bernie person commenting in this thread....

 

interesting.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:51 PM

28. 'Too late, too typical, too Bernie'

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:53 PM

29. Bernie is always a day late. I couldn't believe no one told him Bloomberg dropped out. n/t

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:59 PM

31. If what is said here is true, Bernie is done, stone cold done. He knew his people were attacking

 

other candidates, and did nothing to stop them.. What kind of leader refuses to stop his own people, who are harassing other candidates and their supporters?
...If Bernie knew, and I think he knew from what is said here in this thread, then Bernie is a liar. Stone cold liar, as bad as any other stone cold liar.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:06 PM

32. what about attacks on Betsy Londigran, Il-13th democratic candidate???

 

any sanders apology for that YET??
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