Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWas Bernie always more of a "caucus" candidate?
He never did that well in the primaries.
He gained traction by organizing his base for caucus turnouts. He was able to win several caucuses and it gave a false reading of his overall popularity? Maybe so?
Several states where Bernie won big changed to a primary system and Bernie does not do as well in a primary.
I think that is a reality that Bernie supporters should accept as a possibility.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)...and you will never understand why.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He wouldn't suspend his campaign even if he was in ICU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(116,257 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)and larger state if there is an apathetic democratic voter base
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(153,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But he won't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)About how working class Americans's lives have gotten more and more tough under both Trump (who I will definitely vote against) and previous neo-liberal policies. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/06/opinion/working-class-death-rate.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Worth looking at for why Sanders might want to continue his challenge.
Bryant
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and put his full support behind Warren.
Sanders is challenging Biden. Both are working to overturn the damage Trump is doing.
How does that article promote Bernie over Biden on anything?
What "neoliberal policies" are you referring to?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)How did Clinton and Obama "make life harder and harder for the working class?" Obama (with Pelosi) got millions covered by health care that were not previously covered or coverable. Perhaps one who is privileged enough not to have been one of those people, one might dismiss the ACA as a "Few cups of water.."
Perhaps if one is a straight white male, one has the privilege necessary that many improvements in the Obama era didn't affect you directly, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist.
Hillary (with Ted Kennedy) actually got free health care into existence for working class and low income kids with CHIP. What has Bernie done to equal that? Perhaps if one has the privilege to not have been one of those kids, one didn't see that health care reform, but that didn't mean it doesn't exist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dansolo
(5,379 posts)He got barely over 50% in his own state
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,576 posts)is in the 30s. He's not a true Dem. His supporters prove they aren't either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,299 posts)Since most caucuses actually have statistically small turnouts, it's much easier to flood a caucus with supporters than it is to flood a primary election. That happened here in Minnesota in 2016, when we still used caucuses to determine delegates to the Democratic convention. Sanders supporters turned out in large numbers at the caucus meetings, including the one in my precinct. I was the caucus convener and chair. The result was clear even before the vote. Many of the Sanders supporters wore Sanders campaign gear. There's no rule against electioneering in caucuses. Sanders won 60/40.
Later, at our state's primary election, presidential candidates were on the ballot, too, although it didn't count. Hillary won in that useless primary, 60/40.
Flooding of caucuses with a candidate's supporters is one of the reasons that caucuses should be eliminated for delegate selection in presidential primary races. They are unfair and inaccurate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,632 posts)members when they reduced the membership fee to about $15. The Corbynistas took advantage of the stupidity.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amishman
(5,752 posts)Over time that intensity can become a negative.
My choice in 2016 was Bernie. I berned out and want stability and incremental progress now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(51,946 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)" fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(53,379 posts)Caucuses or Primaries won (Clinton - Sanders)
Closed Primaries (12-1)
Open Primaries (9-5)
Modified Primaries (5-4)
Closed Caucuses (4-5)
Open Caucuses (2-5)
Modified Caucuses (0-2)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(8,276 posts)he has a passionate, but narrow base. He was never in a position to get majority support of the party, and never will be. The Progressives had a much better standard bearer in Liz Warren, but the cult of personality around Sanders killed her run.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,966 posts)not only attended caucuses but dominated them. Fortunately, caucuses are going the way of the button hook.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,224 posts)...for the first time. It will be interesting to watch the results. Last time I couldnt go to the caucus cuz my fathers 90th bday party was the same day. Now we are ALL mail in..pre stamped even.. so will be interesting results.
Probably with that virus going around best not go to polling places anyway....even if we had any!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden