Democratic Primaries
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THE WHOLE CHICKEN (Part 1)Way back in 1928, Herbert Hoover's surrogates bragged that Republican policy had delivered to America the greatest prosperity the nation had ever seen--a chicken for every pot and a car in every garage. Democrats, led by Al Smith, responded by noting that Hoover's wealthy friends all had chickens in their pots and cars in their garages, but that America's newfound wealth was not being equally distributed. The working class was not getting a fair share of the national wealth, these Democrats argued.
Welcome to modern, American politics. This debate from 1928 remains at the heart of our political discourse.
The "original recipe" chicken story is older. King Henry IV of France wanted to insure that every peasant in his realm would have a chicken in their pots (on Sundays, at the very least). He didn't want his people to be any poorer than that. Suffice it to say that the working people of the Western world have been looking for that chicken ever since. We were promised it. We haven't gotten it yet--not by a long stretch, especially not in the United States.
Those of us who voted for Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic primaries voted for these politicians because they insisted that the working people deserve THE WHOLE CHICKEN. It didn't matter to us whether or not these politicians could actually deliver THE WHOLE CHICKEN. We were simply pleased to know that they agreed that the American people deserve THE WHOLE CHICKEN. We voted for Bernie and for Elizabeth because they were willing to fight for THE WHOLE CHICKEN ... for the American people.
Here's THE WHOLE CHICKEN:
That, my friends, is THE WHOLE CHICKEN that most Americans want in their pots! It's what the American people need, and it's what they deserve. We know that we're the wealthiest nation on Earth. We also know that we're the hardest-working people on Earth. The primary purpose of the Democratic Party is to give the people some economic justice--to spread the wealth and to make capitalism work for all of us and not just the rich folks.
If the Democratic Party can just give us the neck (Eliminate the Filibuster), I have every reason to believe that Joe Biden can and will be a transformative, liberal President. So I hope. Give us the neck, and we can make some Real Democratic Soup that will lead us to THE WHOLE CHICKEN. Go JOE!
If you're with me, simply respond (here and elsewhere) by saying:
I WANT THE WHOLE CHICKEN.
The American people deserve it.
-Laelth
Part 2 will follow with a careful examination of each part of the chicken and why the American people deserve THE WHOLE CHICKEN and not just the bits of chicken that the Democratic Party has served up since the Age of Reagan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,967 posts)But its going to take time and coalition-building for us to get it. We need strong majorities in the House, Senate, and, of course, we must have the presidency. I think Biden will set us on the right track for getting the whole chicken.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,037 posts)We need another 4 years after this one to accomplish all that + green new deal. First term focus on the chicken; 2nd term focus on Green New Deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I'll even up the ante on you. 20 years of Dem rule would be quite nice.
I WANT THE WHOLE CHICKEN!
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,037 posts)it's very doable to achieve the whole chicken, but need to be spread over 2 terms. We need to forge on but with patience. Just reversing the damage this horrendous administration has inflicted will take much longer to get back to normal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Not likely. Were not organized enoughnever have been and, one imagines, never will be. Our big tent is chock full of contrarians. We usually fight amongst ourselves harder than we fight against Republicans.
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. - Will Rogers
For better or for worse ...
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,037 posts)And dont lose sight of the fact that we put country first.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The Democratic Party has done its job, to the best of its ability, for a long time. Nearly all of us are devoted to putting the people first. We regularly disagree, however, about the best way to do so.
Our first and foremost duty is to ensure that capitalism works for all the people and not just the rich people. If we can't do this, we're useless as a party, and there's no reason for the people to vote for us.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)And I thank you for it. That's way better than saying, "No, we can't."
It may take a while, but as long as we can honestly tell the American people, "Yes, we can," we will actually have a shot at getting THE WHOLE CHICKEN. If we say, "No, we can't," there's no reason for the American people to vote for us.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)Did you write that? Great overview. Look forward to Part 2!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Here's to THE WHOLE CHICKEN.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)Yes, to the whole chicken, even it is one or two parts at a time!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)So long as we are working to give the American people what they want and what they deserve, we are doing our duty. When we dont, were useless, and theres no incentive for the people to vote for us.
No?
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Government's role is to serve the people. Those who end up just serving themselves, need to be voted out.
I know people get impatient with one or two parts at a time, but if we look back, we can see the progress of those individual steps. Progress comes with persistence and patience, and acknowledging how far we've come, while looking ahead to more progress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)... punctuated by long periods of dormancy and regression. Our last period of rapid change occurred under LBJ in the 1960s. We have been slowly regressing (on the economic issues) since then.
Were overdue for a liberal correction.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)Rapid change is also almost always preceded (or perhaps "precipitated" would be a better word here) by years of activism involving highly visible - and often disruptive - people's movements. There have been spikes of activism in the last decade (including more vigorous labor activity, BLM, Occupy, etc.), but I'm not sure the bottom-up pressure has built to the point it needs to. My perception (which could be wrong), is that the general response to dissent and discontent is to "manage" it, rather than grant many (if any) meaningful concessions.
Your OP is cool, btw.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am not sure, either, that the bottom-up pressure you describe is at a level yet where it can be usefully harnessed, but I certainly hope its getting close.
Thank you for the kind words.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
What worries me is that history isn't a linear narrative of "progress," even though it's sort of taught that way. What comes next could be a revival of New Deal-style answers (or some kind of left-leaning politics), but it could just as easily be an authoritarian nightmare or a social/political collapse. I'm cautiously optimistic about the near to medium term future, but far from certain.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
It definitely feel like we've regressed a lot on economic issues and the income inequality just keeps getting worse. We are overdue and what we really need is Democratic control of the White House, the senate, and the house for a prolonged period of time. Democrats need to pay more attention to down ballot races and always vote in the midterms.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Never happened before:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Be careful with those parts of the chicken.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I couldnt find a good image with the head, but I can assure you that I want the head too.
I WANT THE WHOLE CHICKEN!
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)I told you about letting your kids run over you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Democratic voters spoke on Super Tuesday, and they spoke loudly. I heard them, and I followed the team.
As for my daughter, she hasnt posted for days. If you see her online, be kind, please.
She isnt taking the partys rejection of Bernie well.
She wants THE WHOLE CHICKEN.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am CERTAIN that I just alienated the vegan and the vegetarian vote.
Mea culpa.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)... between two glazed doughnuts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)But what are the glazed doughnuts?
I probably want them too.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaelthsDaughter
(150 posts)Agreed! I want my WHOLE chicken and Im mad at the possibility that I will not in my life time get my chicken.
To all the scaredy cats, bok bok!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)I think there's a whole chicken in there for everybody.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden