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Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:22 PM

 

Sanders 2016 spokesman calls Clinton folks "some of the biggest assholes in American politics."


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Reply Sanders 2016 spokesman calls Clinton folks "some of the biggest assholes in American politics." (Original post)
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:27 PM

1. Good thing that in a technical sense HRC isn't one of BS's "Democratic opponents"...

 

since calling people assholes probably isn't the "best way to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponents."

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Response to CrossingTheRubicon (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:31 PM

3. That'll be the excuse

 

"She's not running, so trashing her is okay. Bernie will approve!"

And he probably will, or at least not call this asshole out.
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Response to CrossingTheRubicon (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:32 PM

4. Hahaa.. this guy is making the case

 

for himself to be "one of he biggest.."
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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:34 PM

6. I know, does it ever end?

 

I know, rhetorical question. They can't stop lashing into her.
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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:51 PM

20. And She's Not The Most Disliked Polticiian In America

 

“In a poll Gallup conducted between December 3 and December 12, 15% of Americans said they admired Michele Obama more than any other woman. She easily bested Oprah Winfrey, who was mentioned by 5% of Americans. Hillary Clinton, who has been the most admired woman each year for the last 17 years, landed in third place with 4% of mentions. Current first lady Melania Trump was also cited by 4% of Americans in the poll.”

http://fortune.com/2018/12/27/michelle-obama-most-admired-woman/

These are the 20 most admired women in the world for 2018
1. Angelina Jolie
2. Michelle Obama
3. Oprah Winfrey
4. Queen Elizabeth II
5. Hillary Clinton

https://ceoworld.biz/2018/04/11/revealed-the-worlds-20-most-admired-people-20-men-and-20-women-2018/

Now I can think of some pretty unpopular people but she isn't one of them.


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Response to Me. (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:17 PM

70. This does not dispute that she is unpopular -- it says that 4% of the people

 

listed her as most admired. What it means is that she has a significant group of people who respect her more than anyone else. However, it says nothing of the other 96%. I would assume that many admire her, but admire someone else too. Note that Trump likely is on the comparable male with 13% picking him. Yet, I would argue that he is an unusually unpopular President.

There are polls where people state whether they have a favorable or unfavorable opinion. Hillary Clinton was underwater (as was Trump) on the comparison of the two in 2016. I would argue that much of that was due to a campaign of lies --and Russian trolls.

However, I think the truth is that she has a larger group of people who admire her and respect her than most people AND she has a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her than most people. The response to her is extremely polarized.

At this point, as Hillary once said on something else "what difference does it make?" At this point, she has made her mark on history and history, after time passes, will look at what she did. It is possible that she will add to her accomplishments doing things to help Democrats in 2020 and it is possible that she could have a role in a future Democratic Presidency.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:07 PM

86. I Would Dispute

 

"a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her" and when you consider Oprah has 5% she's doing pretty well. In addition, I'd mention that she beat both Individual ! and B. Sanders by Millions, yet we are always hearing how popular they are so for a Sanders adoree to speak of her in such a manner is both disrespectful and ignoring that she beat his guy by a wide margin.
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Response to Me. (Reply #86)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:01 PM

101. My point is that ALL that is known from this is 4 percent admire her more than anyone else

 

It says nothing of the other 96 percent. The only comparison to Oprah is that 5 percent admired her most. From this, you can't estimate anything comparable to favorable/unfavorable.

From polling on favorability, Clinton a large number of people who answer unfavorable.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #101)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:09 PM

116. What?

 

You have no way of knowing if they voted unfavorably...there are always other options..and frankly 4% of the people in this country is a HUGE number and finally, please present proof that she is so disliked aside from the say-so of some guy who is hooked up with Bernie Sanders. Further, I would bet Post #102 is right on the money.
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Response to Me. (Reply #116)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:33 PM

119. Not speaking of voting. There are polls that ask a sample of people if they view some one

 

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Favorably or unfavorably. Here is one link, http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm . As you can see, all of the polls show that she has more people saying unfavorable than favorable.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #119)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:24 AM

137. Actually I Don't See That At All

 

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Response to Me. (Reply #137)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

138. Did you go to pollingreport.com?

 

There is not a single poll later than January 2016 where the number favorable is higher than the number unfavorable. (In fact, I think the point where negative started to be higher than positive was in mid 2015 - since June 2015, there are at best a few polls where the numbers are almost the same.

Look at http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm - There are several different pollsters - all getting that same pattern. It shows that the email stories had a very major impact on favorability early on even as she was seen as the inevitable winner -- and without Comey, she still likely would have won - even with all the Russian interference. (Here I am looking at head to head polls.) This means that even as the majority of the country was indicating that they would vote for her - there were more people answering "unfavorable" than "favorable". (I would suggest that meant they preferred her positions and had faith that she could be a good President - even though they had qualms about her. NOTE - that is absolutely conjecture on my part based on those contradictory results that existed even before Trump became the nominee when she was matched with other Republicans. )
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Response to karynnj (Reply #138)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:39 AM

139. I Think There Is An Unexplained Cortradiction

 

Between that and her having been voted most admired woman up until Michelle Obama took first place.
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Response to Me. (Reply #139)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:16 PM

140. I don't see that as a contradiction

 

This means that 4% of the people polled are VERY VERY impressed by Clinton. It says nothing about the remaining 96 %. Note also, she is tied with Melania!

My point is that asking who is your most admired woman is not likely to give any real information on the full distribution of how the entire population views a person. It is possible that there are people further down the list - where fewer say they are the one most admired - who overall have a higher percent of people viewing them favorably.

Note that Trump gets a much higher percent on the male side -- and we KNOW he is seen very unfavorably by over half of the country.

The link to the many polls are not looking at most admired, but at estimates of how the population of US adults views individuals. On those polls, what is clear is that she has more people having an unfavorable impression than a favorable one.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #140)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:39 PM

142. I'm Sure You Don't

 

This is a country where most people pick who they'ed rather have a drink with rather than policy and millions more chose HRC over BS so for a BS supporter to be dunning her is just wishful thinking and not helpful to BS at all.
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Response to Me. (Reply #142)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:26 PM

144. My view of this is based on having degrees in math and having worked doing

 

statistical analysis for more than 20 years. I tried to explain things as clearly as I could, but obviously I failed to get you to understand the basic meanings of both your own cited polls and the ones that are designed to measure favorability. I also was not "dunning" Clinton. I was stating accurately what the favorability polls mean. I have a hard time understanding why you can not see that it is entirely possible for 4% of the population to admire someone more than anyone else and for 50% of the population to say they do not see her favorably. (Maybe by taking an analogous example where no emotion is involved? ie would you have a problem if data showed that 4% of the women picked brown as their favorite dress color - while in a different survey 56% of women disliked brown as a dress color? )

PS I am not supporting Sanders - I am undecided between a few others.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #144)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:02 PM

145. I Did Not Say You Were A Supporter

 

it's clear who made the statement, and a rather vicious supporter at that, IMHO, and I think saying HRC is so universally disliked reflects his bias and nothing more.

‘The results are calculated from the combination of responses to two questions – whether a respondent admires the figure at all and then whether they are the figure the respondent admires the most

‘In the list of global-only figures Obama ranks first in 19 countries, compared to only 6 for Bill Gates. However, as the former president performs relatively poorly in populous countries like China (7th) and Russia (12th), Gates – who places in the top four in every country listed –scoops the top spot.’

https://bipartisanreport.com/2018/04/11/most-admired-people-of-2018-rankings-released-trump-freak-out-coming/


BS is admired by 1% in these polls…does that mean 99% dislike him? I don't think so.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-gallup-polls-most-admired-man-and-woman-in-2018/

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/12/29/most-admired-men-and-women-in-2018/5/



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Response to Me. (Reply #145)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:45 PM

147. Give it up Simply put you have no idea what you are writing about

 

I NEVER wrote that the 94% who did not admire HRC most, disliked her. In fact, I linked to something that actually asked favorable/unfavorable. I specifically said that you can not estimate whether most people favored anyone given that 4% that admired them most. (Obviously if someone is picked by 50%+ people, you could say that most like her/him.

It is YOU, not me, that is using the percent that most admire someone to project how high the favorability is. I said you mathematically can't do it.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #147)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:00 PM

148. LOL

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:28 PM

2. That's not going to help him convert any of the HRC voters to his cause this time. n/t

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:33 PM

5. The opposite.

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:53 PM

52. No kidding.

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #52)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:26 PM

75. Two words for Briggs.

 

Glass House.



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Response to Cha (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:31 PM

82. Funny.

 

Funny how I have watched clip after clip of Bernie in the run up for his town Hall tonight saying: " We will not let this President divide us."

Sanders needs to get his people in line with that pledge.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:09 PM

88. Didn't Before, Won't Now

 

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Response to Me. (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

128. Ummmm

 

Sigh.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:45 PM

126. +1000

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:08 PM

143. Indeed. (nt)

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:35 PM

9. Without a large number of former Clinton voters

 

converting to Sanders voters, his presidential run is pretty much over before super Tuesday.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:37 PM

11. Lol.

 

Dragging the guy’s name through the mud for the last two years. And NOW you are not going to vote for him?

Please
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:48 PM

17. More people voted for her

 

Just pointing out Bernie has to win hearts and minds, Hillary isn't running so she doesn't have to do anything.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:51 PM

19. How do you expect Bernie to win if his team keeps trying to alienate Hillary supporters?

 

She beat him by 4 million votes, so he has a lot of minds to change.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:59 PM

100. I don't think they have to try not to alienate Hillary supporters. There is no way in hell that

 

a majority of us will vote for Bernie. He has to find votes somewhere else.


And since we were in the majority in 2016, he won't find enough to make till March 3rd, 2020.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:55 PM

99. Dragging his name through the mud??????????????? I guess it is still Saint Bernie and thou shal not

 

say a word against him.

I learned early on in 2016 what to say about Bernie and his supporters and it looks like it still holds true for 2020 too.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:54 PM

129. Hillary...

 

Please.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:03 PM

28. He would not have converted any of them anyway

 

if DU is any indication.
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Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:07 PM

87. Sure As Heck Not

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:51 PM

96. I would like to see those Hillary voters who support Bernie this time. I could probably fit them in

 

my wife's SUV.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:34 PM

7. Michael Briggs..

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:34 PM

8. SPOX meet mirror nt

 

nt
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:35 PM

10. "private jet" attacks usually come from right-wingers

 

bogus gotchas to make environmentalists look like hypocrites. They did that against Al Gore a lot.

I could be wrong but I don't remember this kind of criticism being made in good faith, by a person with an actual interest in C02 emissions.

But to use this against Bernie for the travel he did to support Hillary, that's a whole new level.
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Response to KayF (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:39 PM

12. Here's his schedule

 

This is Bernie not helping:

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:52 PM

21. but very sincere evironmentalists are CONCERNED

 

for example Alex Jones:

https://www.infowars.com/bernie-sanders-spent-300000-on-private-jet-travel-in-one-month-report/
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:55 PM

25. Where did that list come from? Interesting item #1:

 

"1/July 12, 2016....1 day after the Dem Convention was done.."

The Convention was held July 25-28.

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:11 PM

36. ...

 

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:15 PM

38. Interesting how he started campaigning for the Democratic presumptive presidential nominee

 

July 12,2016. Before the Democratic convention. I was under the impression he didn't do any campaigning for till way, way later and I've seen many complaints that is was just 3 times or so. By that list it was 40 times.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?412571-1/bernie-sanders-endorses-hillary-clinton
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Response to Autumn (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:32 PM

43. That was a single joint appearance prior to the Convention in New Hampshire....

 

The Convention ended on July 25. Look at his next appearance. Plus, I'd love to see where that list came from.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:40 PM

45. Yep. That's a fact. Just not in alternate history.

 

Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton in Portsmouth

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:09 PM

62. Did you see he has raised 10 million in less than a week?

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:13 PM

64. I was just posting a thread about it in fact!

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:14 PM

66. I'll go rec it before I step back out.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:27 PM

76. Hey that's great....

 

And when Sanders is out of the running because of all the former Clinton voters and their families that he and his "fans" are alienating, then all that money raised will go to the actual primary winning nominee's campaign.

Go Bernie!!!



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:09 PM

105. It is a delite to see and read the Bernie supporters this time. It is like two years haven't gone

 

by. They act like they are taking off from where they left off in 2016.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #105)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:23 PM

107. Yup.

 

Seems so.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:19 PM

90. When one has the kind of email list he has, that's not surprising

 

Having developed it from a previous run for POTUS.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:39 PM

125. I wonder where he got that email list? I never gave him MY email address, but....

 

....I was flooded with emails from him and his surrogates beginning in December 2015.

I wonder what event happened in December 2015 that would have prompted that?
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:22 PM

91. Remember this kickoff to the Convention 10 days after?

 


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/protests-convention-bernie-sanders-philadelphia.html
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:42 PM

95. Those pesky facts are annoying things.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:32 PM

122. Where did your list come from?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:58 PM

55. Ooops.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:13 PM

63. I was there

 

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:35 PM

94. Yeah, I want to know the verification of

 

that "list", too.
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Response to Cha (Reply #94)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:33 PM

123. It appears that we're not going to get an answer.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:07 PM

115. Bump.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:22 PM

120. Is there any actual proof he went to all those

 

places on the "schedule"?
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Response to Cha (Reply #120)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:28 PM

121. I'm sure someone with nothing but free time and an internet connection could look it up.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #121)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:33 PM

124. uh huh.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:21 PM

141. Where did that list come from?

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:21 PM

154. You never told us where that came from.

 

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Response to KayF (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:11 PM

35. I'd like to see that first statement documented. Thanks!

 

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Response to George II (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:24 PM

41. I would too

 

all I have is my honest recollection of the attacks I've heard.

What about your honest recollection? Have you heard these attacks before and who are they coming from, as you remember them?
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Response to KayF (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:43 PM

47. Yeah. Don't let anyone bull shit you.

 

We’ve all heard it re: Al Gore, his jet travel and his big home.
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Response to George II (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:58 PM

56. There's a thing

 

it's called google
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Response to KayF (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:29 PM

80. It is wild..

 

& now after being called out on their bullshit.. they're the victims... Classic
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:42 PM

13. Okay,enough already with the Clinton stuff.

 

Hillary Clinton at this time is not anywhere or connected to any Presidential Democratic Candidate.

Love the way people are working overtime with the Clinton garbage. Folks have to get out of the old History and move on to a new History.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:47 PM

16. What? A high level former Clinton staffer is the one stirring the shit pot.

 

Tell him to zip it. People are just responding to Zac Petkanas smears.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:52 PM

22. Yes,aware of the source.

 

This person is looking for his personal Justification for not seeing the real issues that caused the Standard Barrier to not bring it home.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:07 PM

32. What's a Standard Barrier? N/T

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:12 PM

37. Trump's Wall?

 

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:06 PM

103. Do you mean the Standard Bearer who Got Fucked

 

by Russia and Jill Stein's Fucking LIES and well as others.. and the M$M?

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Response to Cha (Reply #103)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:17 PM

117. Oh so true.

 

The last 96 hrs of that Campaign was pure ugly.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:45 PM

14. That was unnecessary if you have a brain

 

They do not.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 12:28 AM

156. Yep, self wound. nt

 

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Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:50 PM

18. Their never ending hatred for HRC is similar to someone else's

 

Hmm, who could that be?
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Response to mcar (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:58 PM

27. Right. What precipitated this comment to begin with. ?

 

There is one camp here constantly stirring the pot.
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:05 PM

29. Constantly.

 

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Response to elleng (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:29 PM

79. Yeah, BS is.. get your mad on that.

 

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:28 PM

78. Yeah, BS..

 

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:54 PM

23. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:54 PM

24. No wonder BS campaign staff complained about a pervasive predatory culture within the campaign.

 

After the Human Rights Campaign announced on Tuesday it would back Clinton, the Sanders campaign criticized the nation’s largest LGBT group in response to a Washington Blade inquiry for a reaction.

It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record,” said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.

snip=============================================

So who knows what prompted the Human Rights Campaign to do what it does — I have trouble myself figuring why they do some of the things they do over the years — but I think the gay men and lesbians all over the country will know who has been their champion for a long, long time and will consider that as they make up their mind on support for his campaign,” Briggs said.

Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant “LGBTQ people all over the country.”

Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesn’t understand.

snip==========================================================

Brandon Lorenz, a spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, in a statement to the Blade responded to the Sanders campaign’s criticisms.

There are certainly several friends of equality in this race, but the 32 community leaders who comprise HRC’s Board of Directors have unanimously decided that Hillary Clinton is the champion we need to fight for us each day on the campaign trail and every day in the White House,” said Lorenz.

Have a donut, Mr. Briggs.



As a matter of fact, take the whole box.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:04 PM

60. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #60)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:05 PM

61. ....

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:40 PM

83. lol.. "establishment" establishment" "estabishment"

 

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yeah, have a donut, Briggs.. and think up new ways to insult Dem Orgs with "Establishment". that tired ol BS insult that means absolutely nothing. Less than fucking ZERO.

lapucelleMahalo!
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Response to Cha (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:14 PM

89. I wonder if Briggs hand a hand in the memo.

 

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=6575

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2997841-End-Game-2016.html

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:31 PM

93. Perhaps... I call BullShit on Briggs..

 

".. one of the most disliked politicians in America".. who got 3 MILLION more Fucking Votes that the asshole that was Rigged in by Russian with the help of Fucking jill stein's Fucking LIES.

Thanks for the Shining Light on It

lol@ "..total ingrates.."

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:56 PM

26. I have found it usually

 

takes an asshole to know one.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:05 PM

30. Btw, while this may be true, and the comment justified, it is playing into the Sanders haters hands

 

It is clear to me what is going on and what went on when Bernie was campaigning for Hillary
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:07 PM

33. It was about the dumbest thing to do

 

Story would have died in about a 1/2 day.

Now the story lives on.

This was the guy he had in charge of talking to the media in 2016? Think he would have got that.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:19 PM

39. Well, I applaud his honesty but is shows that some vestage of the other camp is still fighting old

 

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:55 PM

53. The other camp doesn't have anything to lose

 

They are not running and they don't have to worry about alienating anyone.

Bernie should expect a lot of an incoming, much more than 2016.
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:13 PM

65. Bookmarking. n/t

 

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:20 PM

40. It's clear to anyone who read the memo.

 

Demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats’ unity event.

Evan McMorris-Santoro BuzzFeed News Reporter
Ruby Cramer BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on July 24, 2016, at 9:39 p.m. ET


Sanders Team Wanted DNC To Pay For Private Plane For Fall

An internal “End Game” memo left in a Los Angeles hotel restaurant details extraordinary demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats’ unity event.

snip=======================================

A copy of the memo was shared with BuzzFeed News after it was found on June 5 in a Los Angeles hotel, a DoubleTree where Sanders and his aides stayed that night. The document details the ways the campaign hoped to keep their candidate relevant and further his “political revolution” ahead of the convention kicking off here Monday.

Senior officials from the Sanders campaign declined to comment. The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign did not respond to requests for comment.


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2997841-End-Game-2016.html

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:07 PM

31. LOL. So much for Bernie's edict about treating Democratic opponents with respect. nt

 

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Response to Maven (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:01 PM

57. Boom!

 


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Response to Maven (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:16 PM

69. Figured that would last about 10 seconds.

 

Maybe 20.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:09 PM

34. uck, Maggie

 

It may garner a few clicks but who cares about 2016? It is click bait to create a message for Democrats who fall for it.

We have many fantastic Democratic candidates. Why are we allowing the media to make this a circus of circular firing squads? imo
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:30 PM

42. Here is the context of the 'asshole' statement:

 

From Politico: [link:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793|

Just as many former Clinton supporters and staffers continue to hold a grudge against the Vermont senator, many Sanders supporters still nurse grievances about the way the senator and his campaign were treated by the Clinton campaign and the party establishment, including the Democratic National Committee.

Michael Briggs, Sanders’ 2016 campaign spokesman who often traveled with Sanders on the private flights, said Clinton and her staff were “total ingrates” in light of the efforts the Vermont senator put in to try to help elect her in the general election.

“You can see why she’s one of the most disliked politicians in America. She’s not nice. Her people are not nice,” he said. “[Sanders] busted his tail to fly all over the country to talk about why it made sense to elect Hillary Clinton and the thanks that [we] get is this kind of petty stupid sniping a couple years after the fact.”

“It doesn’t make me feel good to feel this way but they’re some of the biggest assholes in American politics,” he added.


People should read the entire article. All this in-fighting is exactly what Trump and Putin want Democrats to do and it is not healthy for our party...


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Response to WordsMatter (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:03 PM

59. To me, that context makes it even worse.

 

He seems like too much of a bitter hot head to be taken seriously.

After the Human Rights Campaign announced on Tuesday it would back Clinton, the Sanders campaign criticized the nation’s largest LGBT group in response to a Washington Blade inquiry for a reaction.

It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record,” said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.

snip======================================

“So who knows what prompted the Human Rights Campaign to do what it does — I have trouble myself figuring why they do some of the things they do over the years — but I think the gay men and lesbians all over the country will know who has been their champion for a long, long time and will consider that as they make up their mind on support for his campaign,” Briggs said.

Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant “LGBTQ people all over the country.”

Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesn’t understand.


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Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:16 PM

68. Where are these excerpts from?

 

They are not in the Politico article in this thread...
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Response to WordsMatter (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:19 PM

71. Try this:

 

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/01/19/sanders-campaign-blasts-human-rights-campaign-over-clinton-support/

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:25 PM

74. Thanks for this! - would be nice if posters would provide links...

 

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Response to WordsMatter (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:54 PM

98. The Washington Blade, Jan. 19, 2016

 

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/01/19/sanders-campaign-blasts-human-rights-campaign-over-clinton-support/
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:52 PM

97. Exactly, lapucelle.. "Too much of a hothead to

 

be taken seriously".

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Response to WordsMatter (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:45 PM

149. Sanders supporters "nurse grievances."

 

Clinton supporters “hold grudges.”

Why should I expect this article to provide light rather than heat?
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:33 PM

44. Well bless his heart

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:42 PM

46. Bitter much?

 



What good purpose does this serve? I'm referring to the spox comments AND the OP.

And would it surprise the spox to know that the feelings are reciprocated?

"... Clinton and her staff were total ingrates in light of the efforts the Vermont senator put in..."
Oh brother!
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:49 PM

49. What kind of spox uses a word like "asshole"?

 

He sounds thin-skinned, entitled, and abusive. I wonder if he was one of the campaign people responsible for the persuasive predatory culture on the 2016 campaign.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:57 PM

54. I think these things are indicative of the attitudes that come from above.

 

What kind of spox uses a word like "asshole"?
I know, right? It's very immature and quite petulant, and doesn't speak very well about the candidate. I think these things are indicative of the attitudes that come from above. These things don't happen in a vacuum. It's representative of the organization and its leadership. Keep in mind that Nina Fucking Turner has just been brought on in 2019... what does that tell you that a Stein-loving, Stein-supporting, Stein-voting person is part of that organization? I know what it says to me, and it's certainly not very flattering, I'll give you that! Might as well have signed on Susan Fucking Sarandon, eh?
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:25 PM

108. And, "total ingrates".. lol

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #49)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:34 PM

146. Come on now this is not a "spox".

 

This is a revolutionary.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:48 PM

48. Well, my current nominees for that award would be the Color Orange and the Mutant Turtle

 

To each their own, I guess
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:50 PM

50. Hmmmm....divisive comments from the Sanders spox

 

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You have to wonder why.... what good purpose does it serve? Could it be to open old wounds within the party?
Certainly it won’t get Sanders votes....

Again ...,to split the party on purpose?

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:52 PM

51. bunch of crybabies

 

Sanders is in for a shock this time! Last time it was easy for him to go around the country just throwing up random policies without any actual plans and let his surrogates attack Clinton 24/7

This time he is one of the frontrunners so it is going to be harder for him to run his campaign like last time. Can't wait for other candidates to attack him the way he attacked Sec. Clinton.

I anticipate he is going to have lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes in the primary, and he will cling onto his campaign till the bitter end.
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Response to Cane4Dems (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:03 PM

58. The Clinton campaign had an opposition file that could fill a U-Haul

 

They barely touched it out of fear of alienating his supporters.

This will not be the case in 2020 as there are 16 people running and I'm pretty sure everything in it is in the possession of anyone who hired Clinton staff.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #58)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:08 PM

104. Source on this?

 

This unused U-Haul's worth of stuff. What's your source on that?
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Response to melman (Reply #104)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:34 PM

112. I think it came from that weirdo at Newsweek.

 

It started out as a file, then a binder and now a uhaul. Lol.

Kurt Eichenwald was the creepy reporter. The Japanese hentai porn guy.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #58)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:55 PM

113. Good.. i can't wait.. the sooner the better.

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:15 PM

67. This is the guy who was earning double pay from Sanders last time around.

 

Good gig if you can get it. They completely crossed the line set historically by Presidential campaigns when it comes to not using your Senate office to campaign for the Presidency. Historically, under this scenario, one stops drawing their senate salary. Numerous republicans pulled this stunt in 2016.

As Bro as they come.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:22 PM

72. I am undecided

 

But will freely state I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016. The staffer is right-it WAS an asshole move. If 2016 Bernie supporters have one complaint it was unfair bias on the part of the DNC. Now in a contest where half the candidates are embracing ideas and ideals he championed for decades people who opposed them in 2016 and who are sitting on the sidelines smear him for acting exactly like their candidate has done for decades. Fuck that staffer and fuck the moron reporter who gave him ink.
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Response to flotsam (Reply #72)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:14 PM

106. I supported Hillary in 2016 and I don't see it that way. Bernie is not now nor was he ever a

 

Democrat. The only reason he runs as a Dem is to get his hands on the money we raise to support real Dems. He could never run without our help.

So why not keep your hands off our money this time! After all his is killing it since he announced isn't he. Or do you want DNC help again?

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #106)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:32 PM

111. Well then

 

Shouldn't all your "real" democrats return their policy positions to him?
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Response to flotsam (Reply #111)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:47 PM

127. That any of that is his is bull shit. Another Bernie

 

myth. Everyone was talking about universal health care before the ACA passed.

Everyone who graduated college with a huge debt to pay off or who had kids in school talked about making education more affordable.

We all knew Citizens United was a terrible decision when it happened.

Every working class person knew their income was flat while the CEO got richer.

And on and on.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:24 PM

73. This is as stupid and as obnoxious as yesterday's Clinton 2016 team attacking Sanders

 

for flying on a chartered plane while helping them in 2016.

It is strange that BOTH of these if written on DU by people who are not paid political operatives could well have been alerted on and possibly removed for "refighting 2016".

It is 2019, the 2020 primaries have started, we do not need this stupid fight to continue.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #73)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:22 PM

118. Not Quite

 

“In the two years following the presidential election, Sanders continued his frequent private jet travel, spending at least $342,000 on the flights”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793


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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:27 PM

77. Is this guy on the 2020 campaign? No? Then...

 

...who cares what some random guy is saying? This isn’t primary news.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:46 PM

84. Rump apologist retweets what? about whom?

 

and this is news why?
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:04 PM

85. I don't remember "Hillary folks" docxing reporters who wrote critical stories.

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:24 PM

92. Still fighting the last primary?

 

I think there's an alert button for that
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Response to Lazy Daisy (Reply #92)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:27 PM

109. There is also a button

 

to report malicious alerts too.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
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Response to revmclaren (Reply #109)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:01 PM

114. By all means

 

use it
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:06 PM

102. Way off message...

 

Michael Briggs should know better... get off that topic and on to 2020. Hillary Clinton was the most liked politician in the USA for 2016. I thought her staff presented themselves well, too.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #102)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:14 AM

131. Most liked based on what please?

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:32 PM

110. France 1940 Sanders 2020 nt

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 05:20 AM

130. Whow. Guessing he missed Bernie asking his followers to be nice.

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:39 AM

132. Considering David Brock was part of that campaign

 

Is it really an unfair comment?
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Response to Kentonio (Reply #132)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:41 AM

133. LOL David Brock.

 

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:58 AM

134. While I certainly wouldn't blame Ms. Clinton for it

 

many of her supporters are/were a**holes, as are/were many of Bernie's supporters. Most acrimonious election cycle I have ever seen. I left the caucus without voting I was so put off.
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Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:06 AM

135. Briggs needs to clean up his own fuckin' house first...

 

Oh, and FUCK that Trump sycophant Maggie Haberman
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:09 AM

136. It's not an encouraging sign

 

that the Berners are still retroactively fighting Hillary more than they are Trump in 2019
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #136)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:11 PM

150. Hummmmm . . .

 

Makes one wonder, does it not?
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:20 PM

151. And there it is

 

The BoB mentality.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:30 PM

152. Hillary Clinton isn't running

 

So what's his fucking point?

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:36 PM

153. Reminds me that the late, newly sainted Barbara Bush

 

repeatedly called Hillary "rhymes with witch" in public, along with a senior member of her husband's campaign staff. This was pre- social media, and I only saw 3 separate televised incidences of "witchy" behaviors in one day (he got into the act with one) before the main campaign back east with Poppy Bush heard and shut them up.

Yeah, we knew Barbara was a royal bitch, but admired her for her...strength.

And we also know, and haven't forgotten, that Sanders had the biggest "manafarts" outside of the Trump campaign.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:03 PM

155. Sounds like psychological projection to me

 

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Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:14 AM

157. They're flying private jets on Clinton's dime and calling her staff THAT?

 

Wow.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:26 AM

158. LOOK in the FREAKING MIRROR, Briggs.

 

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