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Sanders 2016 spokesman calls Clinton folks "some of the biggest assholes in American politics." (Original Post) Yosemito Feb 2019 OP
Good thing that in a technical sense HRC isn't one of BS's "Democratic opponents"... CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #1
That'll be the excuse NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #3
Hahaa.. this guy is making the case Cha Feb 2019 #4
I know, does it ever end? LisaM Feb 2019 #6
And She's Not The Most Disliked Polticiian In America Me. Feb 2019 #20
This does not dispute that she is unpopular -- it says that 4% of the people karynnj Feb 2019 #70
I Would Dispute Me. Feb 2019 #86
My point is that ALL that is known from this is 4 percent admire her more than anyone else karynnj Feb 2019 #101
What? Me. Feb 2019 #116
Not speaking of voting. There are polls that ask a sample of people if they view some one karynnj Feb 2019 #119
Actually I Don't See That At All Me. Feb 2019 #137
Did you go to pollingreport.com? karynnj Feb 2019 #138
I Think There Is An Unexplained Cortradiction Me. Feb 2019 #139
I don't see that as a contradiction karynnj Feb 2019 #140
I'm Sure You Don't Me. Feb 2019 #142
My view of this is based on having degrees in math and having worked doing karynnj Feb 2019 #144
I Did Not Say You Were A Supporter Me. Feb 2019 #145
Give it up Simply put you have no idea what you are writing about karynnj Feb 2019 #147
LOL Me. Feb 2019 #148
That's not going to help him convert any of the HRC voters to his cause this time. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #2
The opposite. Cha Feb 2019 #5
No kidding. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #52
Two words for Briggs. Cha Feb 2019 #75
Funny. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #82
Didn't Before, Won't Now Me. Feb 2019 #88
Ummmm sheshe2 Feb 2019 #128
+1000 Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #126
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #143
Without a large number of former Clinton voters revmclaren Feb 2019 #9
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #11
More people voted for her Trenzalore Feb 2019 #17
How do you expect Bernie to win if his team keeps trying to alienate Hillary supporters? pnwmom Feb 2019 #19
I don't think they have to try not to alienate Hillary supporters. There is no way in hell that wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #100
Dragging his name through the mud??????????????? I guess it is still Saint Bernie and thou shal not wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #99
Hillary... sheshe2 Feb 2019 #129
He would not have converted any of them anyway INdemo Feb 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #81
Sure As Heck Not Me. Feb 2019 #87
I would like to see those Hillary voters who support Bernie this time. I could probably fit them in wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #96
Michael Briggs.. Cha Feb 2019 #7
SPOX meet mirror nt Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #8
"private jet" attacks usually come from right-wingers KayF Feb 2019 #10
Here's his schedule Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #12
but very sincere evironmentalists are CONCERNED KayF Feb 2019 #21
Where did that list come from? Interesting item #1: George II Feb 2019 #25
... OilemFirchen Feb 2019 #36
Interesting how he started campaigning for the Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Autumn Feb 2019 #38
That was a single joint appearance prior to the Convention in New Hampshire.... George II Feb 2019 #43
Yep. That's a fact. Just not in alternate history. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #45
Did you see he has raised 10 million in less than a week? Autumn Feb 2019 #62
I was just posting a thread about it in fact! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #64
I'll go rec it before I step back out. Autumn Feb 2019 #66
Hey that's great.... revmclaren Feb 2019 #76
It is a delite to see and read the Bernie supporters this time. It is like two years haven't gone wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #105
Yup. revmclaren Feb 2019 #107
When one has the kind of email list he has, that's not surprising ehrnst Feb 2019 #90
I wonder where he got that email list? I never gave him MY email address, but.... George II Feb 2019 #125
Remember this kickoff to the Convention 10 days after? ehrnst Feb 2019 #91
Those pesky facts are annoying things. CentralMass Feb 2019 #95
Where did your list come from? George II Feb 2019 #122
Ooops. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #55
I was there Gothmog Feb 2019 #63
Yeah, I want to know the verification of Cha Feb 2019 #94
It appears that we're not going to get an answer. George II Feb 2019 #123
Bump. George II Feb 2019 #115
Is there any actual proof he went to all those Cha Feb 2019 #120
I'm sure someone with nothing but free time and an internet connection could look it up. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #121
uh huh. Cha Feb 2019 #124
Where did that list come from? George II Feb 2019 #141
You never told us where that came from. George II Mar 2019 #154
I'd like to see that first statement documented. Thanks! George II Feb 2019 #35
I would too KayF Feb 2019 #41
Yeah. Don't let anyone bull shit you. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #47
There's a thing melman Feb 2019 #56
It is wild.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #80
Okay,enough already with the Clinton stuff. Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #13
What? A high level former Clinton staffer is the one stirring the shit pot. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #16
Yes,aware of the source. Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #22
What's a Standard Barrier? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #32
Trump's Wall? Generic Other Feb 2019 #37
Do you mean the Standard Bearer who Got Fucked Cha Feb 2019 #103
Oh so true. Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #117
That was unnecessary if you have a brain Trenzalore Feb 2019 #14
Yep, self wound. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #156
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #15
Their never ending hatred for HRC is similar to someone else's mcar Feb 2019 #18
Right. What precipitated this comment to begin with. ? CentralMass Feb 2019 #27
Constantly. elleng Feb 2019 #29
Yeah, BS is.. get your mad on that. Cha Feb 2019 #79
Yeah, BS.. Cha Feb 2019 #78
Don't dish it out if you can't take it. betsuni Feb 2019 #23
No wonder BS campaign staff complained about a pervasive predatory culture within the campaign. lapucelle Feb 2019 #24
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ sheshe2 Feb 2019 #60
.... lapucelle Feb 2019 #61
lol.. "establishment" establishment" "estabishment" Cha Feb 2019 #83
I wonder if Briggs hand a hand in the memo. lapucelle Feb 2019 #89
Perhaps... I call BullShit on Briggs.. Cha Feb 2019 #93
I have found it usually MyNameGoesHere Feb 2019 #26
Btw, while this may be true, and the comment justified, it is playing into the Sanders haters hands CentralMass Feb 2019 #30
It was about the dumbest thing to do Trenzalore Feb 2019 #33
Well, I applaud his honesty but is shows that some vestage of the other camp is still fighting old CentralMass Feb 2019 #39
The other camp doesn't have anything to lose Trenzalore Feb 2019 #53
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #65
It's clear to anyone who read the memo. lapucelle Feb 2019 #40
LOL. So much for Bernie's edict about treating Democratic opponents with respect. nt Maven Feb 2019 #31
Boom! NurseJackie Feb 2019 #57
Figured that would last about 10 seconds. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #69
uck, Maggie saidsimplesimon Feb 2019 #34
Here is the context of the 'asshole' statement: WordsMatter Feb 2019 #42
To me, that context makes it even worse. lapucelle Feb 2019 #59
Where are these excerpts from? WordsMatter Feb 2019 #68
Try this: MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #71
Thanks for this! - would be nice if posters would provide links... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #74
The Washington Blade, Jan. 19, 2016 lapucelle Feb 2019 #98
Exactly, lapucelle.. "Too much of a hothead to Cha Feb 2019 #97
Sanders supporters "nurse grievances." namahage Feb 2019 #149
Well bless his heart BooScout Feb 2019 #44
Bitter much? NurseJackie Feb 2019 #46
What kind of spox uses a word like "asshole"? lapucelle Feb 2019 #49
I think these things are indicative of the attitudes that come from above. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #54
And, "total ingrates".. lol Cha Feb 2019 #108
Come on now this is not a "spox". BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #146
Well, my current nominees for that award would be the Color Orange and the Mutant Turtle struggle4progress Feb 2019 #48
Hmmmm....divisive comments from the Sanders spox apcalc Feb 2019 #50
bunch of crybabies Cane4Dems Feb 2019 #51
The Clinton campaign had an opposition file that could fill a U-Haul Trenzalore Feb 2019 #58
Source on this? melman Feb 2019 #104
I think it came from that weirdo at Newsweek. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #112
Good.. i can't wait.. the sooner the better. Cha Feb 2019 #113
This is the guy who was earning double pay from Sanders last time around. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #67
I am undecided flotsam Feb 2019 #72
I supported Hillary in 2016 and I don't see it that way. Bernie is not now nor was he ever a wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #106
Well then flotsam Feb 2019 #111
That any of that is his is bull shit. Another Bernie wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #127
This is as stupid and as obnoxious as yesterday's Clinton 2016 team attacking Sanders karynnj Feb 2019 #73
Not Quite Me. Feb 2019 #118
Is this guy on the 2020 campaign? No? Then... TCJ70 Feb 2019 #77
Rump apologist retweets what? about whom? shanny Feb 2019 #84
I don't remember "Hillary folks" docxing reporters who wrote critical stories. RandySF Feb 2019 #85
Still fighting the last primary? Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #92
There is also a button revmclaren Feb 2019 #109
By all means Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #114
Way off message... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #102
Most liked based on what please? Kentonio Feb 2019 #131
France 1940 Sanders 2020 nt Persondem Feb 2019 #110
Whow. Guessing he missed Bernie asking his followers to be nice. riversedge Feb 2019 #130
Considering David Brock was part of that campaign Kentonio Feb 2019 #132
LOL David Brock. betsuni Feb 2019 #133
While I certainly wouldn't blame Ms. Clinton for it pecosbob Feb 2019 #134
Briggs needs to clean up his own fuckin' house first... Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #135
It's not an encouraging sign Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #136
Hummmmm . . . peggysue2 Feb 2019 #150
And there it is liberal N proud Feb 2019 #151
Hillary Clinton isn't running Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #152
Reminds me that the late, newly sainted Barbara Bush Hortensis Feb 2019 #153
Sounds like psychological projection to me emulatorloo Mar 2019 #155
They're flying private jets on Clinton's dime and calling her staff THAT? ucrdem Mar 2019 #157
LOOK in the FREAKING MIRROR, Briggs. Cha Mar 2019 #158
 

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)
1. Good thing that in a technical sense HRC isn't one of BS's "Democratic opponents"...
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:27 PM
Feb 2019

since calling people assholes probably isn't the "best way to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponents."

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
3. That'll be the excuse
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:31 PM
Feb 2019

"She's not running, so trashing her is okay. Bernie will approve!"

And he probably will, or at least not call this asshole out.

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Cha

(300,270 posts)
4. Hahaa.. this guy is making the case
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:32 PM
Feb 2019

for himself to be "one of he biggest.."

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LisaM

(27,974 posts)
6. I know, does it ever end?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

I know, rhetorical question. They can't stop lashing into her.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
20. And She's Not The Most Disliked Polticiian In America
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

“In a poll Gallup conducted between December 3 and December 12, 15% of Americans said they admired Michele Obama more than any other woman. She easily bested Oprah Winfrey, who was mentioned by 5% of Americans. Hillary Clinton, who has been the most admired woman each year for the last 17 years, landed in third place with 4% of mentions. Current first lady Melania Trump was also cited by 4% of Americans in the poll.”

http://fortune.com/2018/12/27/michelle-obama-most-admired-woman/

These are the 20 most admired women in the world for 2018
1. Angelina Jolie
2. Michelle Obama
3. Oprah Winfrey
4. Queen Elizabeth II
5. Hillary Clinton

https://ceoworld.biz/2018/04/11/revealed-the-worlds-20-most-admired-people-20-men-and-20-women-2018/

Now I can think of some pretty unpopular people but she isn't one of them.


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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
70. This does not dispute that she is unpopular -- it says that 4% of the people
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:17 PM
Feb 2019

listed her as most admired. What it means is that she has a significant group of people who respect her more than anyone else. However, it says nothing of the other 96%. I would assume that many admire her, but admire someone else too. Note that Trump likely is on the comparable male with 13% picking him. Yet, I would argue that he is an unusually unpopular President.

There are polls where people state whether they have a favorable or unfavorable opinion. Hillary Clinton was underwater (as was Trump) on the comparison of the two in 2016. I would argue that much of that was due to a campaign of lies --and Russian trolls.

However, I think the truth is that she has a larger group of people who admire her and respect her than most people AND she has a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her than most people. The response to her is extremely polarized.

At this point, as Hillary once said on something else "what difference does it make?" At this point, she has made her mark on history and history, after time passes, will look at what she did. It is possible that she will add to her accomplishments doing things to help Democrats in 2020 and it is possible that she could have a role in a future Democratic Presidency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
86. I Would Dispute
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:07 PM
Feb 2019

"a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her" and when you consider Oprah has 5% she's doing pretty well. In addition, I'd mention that she beat both Individual ! and B. Sanders by Millions, yet we are always hearing how popular they are so for a Sanders adoree to speak of her in such a manner is both disrespectful and ignoring that she beat his guy by a wide margin.

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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
101. My point is that ALL that is known from this is 4 percent admire her more than anyone else
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

It says nothing of the other 96 percent. The only comparison to Oprah is that 5 percent admired her most. From this, you can't estimate anything comparable to favorable/unfavorable.

From polling on favorability, Clinton a large number of people who answer unfavorable.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
116. What?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:09 PM
Feb 2019

You have no way of knowing if they voted unfavorably...there are always other options..and frankly 4% of the people in this country is a HUGE number and finally, please present proof that she is so disliked aside from the say-so of some guy who is hooked up with Bernie Sanders. Further, I would bet Post #102 is right on the money.

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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
119. Not speaking of voting. There are polls that ask a sample of people if they view some one
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:33 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:31 AM - Edit history (2)

Favorably or unfavorably. Here is one link, http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm . As you can see, all of the polls show that she has more people saying unfavorable than favorable.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
137. Actually I Don't See That At All
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
138. Did you go to pollingreport.com?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:46 AM
Feb 2019

There is not a single poll later than January 2016 where the number favorable is higher than the number unfavorable. (In fact, I think the point where negative started to be higher than positive was in mid 2015 - since June 2015, there are at best a few polls where the numbers are almost the same.

Look at http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm - There are several different pollsters - all getting that same pattern. It shows that the email stories had a very major impact on favorability early on even as she was seen as the inevitable winner -- and without Comey, she still likely would have won - even with all the Russian interference. (Here I am looking at head to head polls.) This means that even as the majority of the country was indicating that they would vote for her - there were more people answering "unfavorable" than "favorable". (I would suggest that meant they preferred her positions and had faith that she could be a good President - even though they had qualms about her. NOTE - that is absolutely conjecture on my part based on those contradictory results that existed even before Trump became the nominee when she was matched with other Republicans. )

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
139. I Think There Is An Unexplained Cortradiction
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:39 PM
Feb 2019

Between that and her having been voted most admired woman up until Michelle Obama took first place.

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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
140. I don't see that as a contradiction
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:16 PM
Feb 2019

This means that 4% of the people polled are VERY VERY impressed by Clinton. It says nothing about the remaining 96 %. Note also, she is tied with Melania!

My point is that asking who is your most admired woman is not likely to give any real information on the full distribution of how the entire population views a person. It is possible that there are people further down the list - where fewer say they are the one most admired - who overall have a higher percent of people viewing them favorably.

Note that Trump gets a much higher percent on the male side -- and we KNOW he is seen very unfavorably by over half of the country.

The link to the many polls are not looking at most admired, but at estimates of how the population of US adults views individuals. On those polls, what is clear is that she has more people having an unfavorable impression than a favorable one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
142. I'm Sure You Don't
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:39 PM
Feb 2019

This is a country where most people pick who they'ed rather have a drink with rather than policy and millions more chose HRC over BS so for a BS supporter to be dunning her is just wishful thinking and not helpful to BS at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
144. My view of this is based on having degrees in math and having worked doing
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

statistical analysis for more than 20 years. I tried to explain things as clearly as I could, but obviously I failed to get you to understand the basic meanings of both your own cited polls and the ones that are designed to measure favorability. I also was not "dunning" Clinton. I was stating accurately what the favorability polls mean. I have a hard time understanding why you can not see that it is entirely possible for 4% of the population to admire someone more than anyone else and for 50% of the population to say they do not see her favorably. (Maybe by taking an analogous example where no emotion is involved? ie would you have a problem if data showed that 4% of the women picked brown as their favorite dress color - while in a different survey 56% of women disliked brown as a dress color? )

PS I am not supporting Sanders - I am undecided between a few others.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
145. I Did Not Say You Were A Supporter
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:02 PM
Feb 2019

it's clear who made the statement, and a rather vicious supporter at that, IMHO, and I think saying HRC is so universally disliked reflects his bias and nothing more.

‘The results are calculated from the combination of responses to two questions – whether a respondent admires the figure at all and then whether they are the figure the respondent admires the most

‘In the list of global-only figures Obama ranks first in 19 countries, compared to only 6 for Bill Gates. However, as the former president performs relatively poorly in populous countries like China (7th) and Russia (12th), Gates – who places in the top four in every country listed –scoops the top spot.’

https://bipartisanreport.com/2018/04/11/most-admired-people-of-2018-rankings-released-trump-freak-out-coming/


BS is admired by 1% in these polls…does that mean 99% dislike him? I don't think so.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-gallup-polls-most-admired-man-and-woman-in-2018/

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/12/29/most-admired-men-and-women-in-2018/5/



If I were to vote in a presidential
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karynnj

(59,609 posts)
147. Give it up Simply put you have no idea what you are writing about
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:45 PM
Feb 2019

I NEVER wrote that the 94% who did not admire HRC most, disliked her. In fact, I linked to something that actually asked favorable/unfavorable. I specifically said that you can not estimate whether most people favored anyone given that 4% that admired them most. (Obviously if someone is picked by 50%+ people, you could say that most like her/him.

It is YOU, not me, that is using the percent that most admire someone to project how high the favorability is. I said you mathematically can't do it.

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pnwmom

(109,173 posts)
2. That's not going to help him convert any of the HRC voters to his cause this time. n/t
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:28 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
5. The opposite.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:33 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
75. Two words for Briggs.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:26 PM
Feb 2019

Glass House.



she

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sheshe2

(84,916 posts)
82. Funny.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:31 PM
Feb 2019

Funny how I have watched clip after clip of Bernie in the run up for his town Hall tonight saying: " We will not let this President divide us."

Sanders needs to get his people in line with that pledge.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
88. Didn't Before, Won't Now
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:09 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
143. Indeed. (nt)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
9. Without a large number of former Clinton voters
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

converting to Sanders voters, his presidential run is pretty much over before super Tuesday.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
11. Lol.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:37 PM
Feb 2019

Dragging the guy’s name through the mud for the last two years. And NOW you are not going to vote for him?

Please

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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
17. More people voted for her
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:48 PM
Feb 2019

Just pointing out Bernie has to win hearts and minds, Hillary isn't running so she doesn't have to do anything.

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pnwmom

(109,173 posts)
19. How do you expect Bernie to win if his team keeps trying to alienate Hillary supporters?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

She beat him by 4 million votes, so he has a lot of minds to change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
100. I don't think they have to try not to alienate Hillary supporters. There is no way in hell that
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:59 PM
Feb 2019

a majority of us will vote for Bernie. He has to find votes somewhere else.


And since we were in the majority in 2016, he won't find enough to make till March 3rd, 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
99. Dragging his name through the mud??????????????? I guess it is still Saint Bernie and thou shal not
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:55 PM
Feb 2019

say a word against him.

I learned early on in 2016 what to say about Bernie and his supporters and it looks like it still holds true for 2020 too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
28. He would not have converted any of them anyway
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

if DU is any indication.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
87. Sure As Heck Not
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:07 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
96. I would like to see those Hillary voters who support Bernie this time. I could probably fit them in
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:51 PM
Feb 2019

my wife's SUV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Cha

(300,270 posts)
7. Michael Briggs..
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
8. SPOX meet mirror nt
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

nt

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KayF

(1,345 posts)
10. "private jet" attacks usually come from right-wingers
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

bogus gotchas to make environmentalists look like hypocrites. They did that against Al Gore a lot.

I could be wrong but I don't remember this kind of criticism being made in good faith, by a person with an actual interest in C02 emissions.

But to use this against Bernie for the travel he did to support Hillary, that's a whole new level.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
12. Here's his schedule
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:39 PM
Feb 2019

This is Bernie not helping:

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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Where did that list come from? Interesting item #1:
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:55 PM
Feb 2019

"1/July 12, 2016....1 day after the Dem Convention was done.."

The Convention was held July 25-28.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Autumn

(45,331 posts)
38. Interesting how he started campaigning for the Democratic presumptive presidential nominee
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:15 PM
Feb 2019

July 12,2016. Before the Democratic convention. I was under the impression he didn't do any campaigning for till way, way later and I've seen many complaints that is was just 3 times or so. By that list it was 40 times.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?412571-1/bernie-sanders-endorses-hillary-clinton

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George II

(67,782 posts)
43. That was a single joint appearance prior to the Convention in New Hampshire....
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:32 PM
Feb 2019

The Convention ended on July 25. Look at his next appearance. Plus, I'd love to see where that list came from.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
45. Yep. That's a fact. Just not in alternate history.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:40 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton in Portsmouth

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Autumn

(45,331 posts)
62. Did you see he has raised 10 million in less than a week?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:09 PM
Feb 2019
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
64. I was just posting a thread about it in fact!
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:13 PM
Feb 2019
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Autumn

(45,331 posts)
66. I'll go rec it before I step back out.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:14 PM
Feb 2019
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revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
76. Hey that's great....
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:27 PM
Feb 2019

And when Sanders is out of the running because of all the former Clinton voters and their families that he and his "fans" are alienating, then all that money raised will go to the actual primary winning nominee's campaign.

Go Bernie!!!



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
105. It is a delite to see and read the Bernie supporters this time. It is like two years haven't gone
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:09 PM
Feb 2019

by. They act like they are taking off from where they left off in 2016.

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revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
107. Yup.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:23 PM
Feb 2019

Seems so.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
90. When one has the kind of email list he has, that's not surprising
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:19 PM
Feb 2019

Having developed it from a previous run for POTUS.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
125. I wonder where he got that email list? I never gave him MY email address, but....
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:39 AM
Feb 2019

....I was flooded with emails from him and his surrogates beginning in December 2015.

I wonder what event happened in December 2015 that would have prompted that?

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
95. Those pesky facts are annoying things.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:42 PM
Feb 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
122. Where did your list come from?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:32 AM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
94. Yeah, I want to know the verification of
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:35 PM
Feb 2019

that "list", too.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
123. It appears that we're not going to get an answer.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:33 AM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
120. Is there any actual proof he went to all those
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:22 AM
Feb 2019

places on the "schedule"?

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
121. I'm sure someone with nothing but free time and an internet connection could look it up.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:28 AM
Feb 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
141. Where did that list come from?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:21 PM
Feb 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
154. You never told us where that came from.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:21 PM
Mar 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
35. I'd like to see that first statement documented. Thanks!
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:11 PM
Feb 2019
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KayF

(1,345 posts)
41. I would too
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:24 PM
Feb 2019

all I have is my honest recollection of the attacks I've heard.

What about your honest recollection? Have you heard these attacks before and who are they coming from, as you remember them?

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
47. Yeah. Don't let anyone bull shit you.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:43 PM
Feb 2019

We’ve all heard it re: Al Gore, his jet travel and his big home.

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disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
80. It is wild..
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:29 PM
Feb 2019

& now after being called out on their bullshit.. they're the victims... Classic

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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Okay,enough already with the Clinton stuff.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:42 PM
Feb 2019

Hillary Clinton at this time is not anywhere or connected to any Presidential Democratic Candidate.

Love the way people are working overtime with the Clinton garbage. Folks have to get out of the old History and move on to a new History.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
16. What? A high level former Clinton staffer is the one stirring the shit pot.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:47 PM
Feb 2019

Tell him to zip it. People are just responding to Zac Petkanas smears.

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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. Yes,aware of the source.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:52 PM
Feb 2019

This person is looking for his personal Justification for not seeing the real issues that caused the Standard Barrier to not bring it home.

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lapucelle

(19,065 posts)
32. What's a Standard Barrier? N/T
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
103. Do you mean the Standard Bearer who Got Fucked
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

by Russia and Jill Stein's Fucking LIES and well as others.. and the M$M?

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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
117. Oh so true.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:17 PM
Feb 2019

The last 96 hrs of that Campaign was pure ugly.

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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
14. That was unnecessary if you have a brain
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:45 PM
Feb 2019

They do not.

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Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
156. Yep, self wound. nt
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:28 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Yosemito (Original post)

 

mcar

(42,883 posts)
18. Their never ending hatred for HRC is similar to someone else's
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:50 PM
Feb 2019

Hmm, who could that be?

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
27. Right. What precipitated this comment to begin with. ?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:58 PM
Feb 2019

There is one camp here constantly stirring the pot.

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Undecided
 

Cha

(300,270 posts)
79. Yeah, BS is.. get your mad on that.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:29 PM
Feb 2019
Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’
After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
78. Yeah, BS..
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:28 PM
Feb 2019
Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’
After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
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betsuni

(26,543 posts)
23. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:54 PM
Feb 2019
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lapucelle

(19,065 posts)
24. No wonder BS campaign staff complained about a pervasive predatory culture within the campaign.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:54 PM
Feb 2019
After the Human Rights Campaign announced on Tuesday it would back Clinton, the Sanders campaign criticized the nation’s largest LGBT group in response to a Washington Blade inquiry for a reaction.

It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record,” said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.

snip=============================================

So who knows what prompted the Human Rights Campaign to do what it does — I have trouble myself figuring why they do some of the things they do over the years — but I think the gay men and lesbians all over the country will know who has been their champion for a long, long time and will consider that as they make up their mind on support for his campaign,” Briggs said.

Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant “LGBTQ people all over the country.”

Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesn’t understand.

snip==========================================================

Brandon Lorenz, a spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, in a statement to the Blade responded to the Sanders campaign’s criticisms.

There are certainly several friends of equality in this race, but the 32 community leaders who comprise HRC’s Board of Directors have unanimously decided that Hillary Clinton is the champion we need to fight for us each day on the campaign trail and every day in the White House,” said Lorenz.

Have a donut, Mr. Briggs.



As a matter of fact, take the whole box.

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sheshe2

(84,916 posts)
60. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:04 PM
Feb 2019
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
83. lol.. "establishment" establishment" "estabishment"
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

"establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment""establishment"

yeah, have a donut, Briggs.. and think up new ways to insult Dem Orgs with "Establishment". that tired ol BS insult that means absolutely nothing. Less than fucking ZERO.

lapucelle Mahalo!

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Cha

(300,270 posts)
93. Perhaps... I call BullShit on Briggs..
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:31 PM
Feb 2019

".. one of the most disliked politicians in America".. who got 3 MILLION more Fucking Votes that the asshole that was Rigged in by Russian with the help of Fucking jill stein's Fucking LIES.

Thanks for the Shining Light on It

lol@ "..total ingrates.."


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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
26. I have found it usually
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:56 PM
Feb 2019

takes an asshole to know one.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
30. Btw, while this may be true, and the comment justified, it is playing into the Sanders haters hands
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:05 PM
Feb 2019

It is clear to me what is going on and what went on when Bernie was campaigning for Hillary

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Undecided
 

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
33. It was about the dumbest thing to do
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019

Story would have died in about a 1/2 day.

Now the story lives on.

This was the guy he had in charge of talking to the media in 2016? Think he would have got that.

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Undecided
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
39. Well, I applaud his honesty but is shows that some vestage of the other camp is still fighting old
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:19 PM
Feb 2019

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battles.

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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
53. The other camp doesn't have anything to lose
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:55 PM
Feb 2019

They are not running and they don't have to worry about alienating anyone.

Bernie should expect a lot of an incoming, much more than 2016.

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Undecided
 

lapucelle

(19,065 posts)
40. It's clear to anyone who read the memo.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019
Demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats’ unity event.

Evan McMorris-Santoro BuzzFeed News Reporter
Ruby Cramer BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on July 24, 2016, at 9:39 p.m. ET


Sanders Team Wanted DNC To Pay For Private Plane For Fall

An internal “End Game” memo left in a Los Angeles hotel restaurant details extraordinary demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats’ unity event.

snip=======================================

A copy of the memo was shared with BuzzFeed News after it was found on June 5 in a Los Angeles hotel, a DoubleTree where Sanders and his aides stayed that night. The document details the ways the campaign hoped to keep their candidate relevant and further his “political revolution” ahead of the convention kicking off here Monday.

Senior officials from the Sanders campaign declined to comment. The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign did not respond to requests for comment.


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2997841-End-Game-2016.html

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Maven

(10,533 posts)
31. LOL. So much for Bernie's edict about treating Democratic opponents with respect. nt
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019
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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
69. Figured that would last about 10 seconds.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:16 PM
Feb 2019

Maybe 20.

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saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
34. uck, Maggie
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:09 PM
Feb 2019

It may garner a few clicks but who cares about 2016? It is click bait to create a message for Democrats who fall for it.

We have many fantastic Democratic candidates. Why are we allowing the media to make this a circus of circular firing squads? imo

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WordsMatter

(80 posts)
42. Here is the context of the 'asshole' statement:
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:30 PM
Feb 2019

From Politico: [link:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793|

Just as many former Clinton supporters and staffers continue to hold a grudge against the Vermont senator, many Sanders supporters still nurse grievances about the way the senator and his campaign were treated by the Clinton campaign and the party establishment, including the Democratic National Committee.

Michael Briggs, Sanders’ 2016 campaign spokesman who often traveled with Sanders on the private flights, said Clinton and her staff were “total ingrates” in light of the efforts the Vermont senator put in to try to help elect her in the general election.

“You can see why she’s one of the most disliked politicians in America. She’s not nice. Her people are not nice,” he said. “[Sanders] busted his tail to fly all over the country to talk about why it made sense to elect Hillary Clinton and the thanks that [we] get is this kind of petty stupid sniping a couple years after the fact.”

“It doesn’t make me feel good to feel this way but they’re some of the biggest assholes in American politics,” he added.


People should read the entire article. All this in-fighting is exactly what Trump and Putin want Democrats to do and it is not healthy for our party...


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lapucelle

(19,065 posts)
59. To me, that context makes it even worse.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:03 PM
Feb 2019

He seems like too much of a bitter hot head to be taken seriously.

After the Human Rights Campaign announced on Tuesday it would back Clinton, the Sanders campaign criticized the nation’s largest LGBT group in response to a Washington Blade inquiry for a reaction.

It’s understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but it’s an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record,” said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.

snip======================================

“So who knows what prompted the Human Rights Campaign to do what it does — I have trouble myself figuring why they do some of the things they do over the years — but I think the gay men and lesbians all over the country will know who has been their champion for a long, long time and will consider that as they make up their mind on support for his campaign,” Briggs said.

Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant “LGBTQ people all over the country.”

Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesn’t understand.


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WordsMatter

(80 posts)
68. Where are these excerpts from?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:16 PM
Feb 2019

They are not in the Politico article in this thread...

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WordsMatter

(80 posts)
74. Thanks for this! - would be nice if posters would provide links...
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:25 PM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
97. Exactly, lapucelle.. "Too much of a hothead to
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:52 PM
Feb 2019

be taken seriously".

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namahage

(1,157 posts)
149. Sanders supporters "nurse grievances."
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:45 PM
Feb 2019

Clinton supporters “hold grudges.”

Why should I expect this article to provide light rather than heat?

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BooScout

(10,406 posts)
44. Well bless his heart
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:33 PM
Feb 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
46. Bitter much?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:42 PM
Feb 2019


What good purpose does this serve? I'm referring to the spox comments AND the OP.

And would it surprise the spox to know that the feelings are reciprocated?

"... Clinton and her staff were total ingrates in light of the efforts the Vermont senator put in..."
Oh brother!
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lapucelle

(19,065 posts)
49. What kind of spox uses a word like "asshole"?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
Feb 2019

He sounds thin-skinned, entitled, and abusive. I wonder if he was one of the campaign people responsible for the persuasive predatory culture on the 2016 campaign.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
54. I think these things are indicative of the attitudes that come from above.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019
What kind of spox uses a word like "asshole"?
I know, right? It's very immature and quite petulant, and doesn't speak very well about the candidate. I think these things are indicative of the attitudes that come from above. These things don't happen in a vacuum. It's representative of the organization and its leadership. Keep in mind that Nina Fucking Turner has just been brought on in 2019... what does that tell you that a Stein-loving, Stein-supporting, Stein-voting person is part of that organization? I know what it says to me, and it's certainly not very flattering, I'll give you that! Might as well have signed on Susan Fucking Sarandon, eh?
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Cha

(300,270 posts)
108. And, "total ingrates".. lol
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:25 PM
Feb 2019
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BannonsLiver

(16,860 posts)
146. Come on now this is not a "spox".
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:34 PM
Feb 2019

This is a revolutionary.

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Undecided
 

struggle4progress

(118,701 posts)
48. Well, my current nominees for that award would be the Color Orange and the Mutant Turtle
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:48 PM
Feb 2019

To each their own, I guess

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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
50. Hmmmm....divisive comments from the Sanders spox
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:50 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:43 PM - Edit history (2)

You have to wonder why.... what good purpose does it serve? Could it be to open old wounds within the party?
Certainly it won’t get Sanders votes....

Again ...,to split the party on purpose?

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Cane4Dems

(306 posts)
51. bunch of crybabies
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

Sanders is in for a shock this time! Last time it was easy for him to go around the country just throwing up random policies without any actual plans and let his surrogates attack Clinton 24/7

This time he is one of the frontrunners so it is going to be harder for him to run his campaign like last time. Can't wait for other candidates to attack him the way he attacked Sec. Clinton.

I anticipate he is going to have lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes in the primary, and he will cling onto his campaign till the bitter end.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
58. The Clinton campaign had an opposition file that could fill a U-Haul
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:03 PM
Feb 2019

They barely touched it out of fear of alienating his supporters.

This will not be the case in 2020 as there are 16 people running and I'm pretty sure everything in it is in the possession of anyone who hired Clinton staff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
104. Source on this?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:08 PM
Feb 2019

This unused U-Haul's worth of stuff. What's your source on that?

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,458 posts)
112. I think it came from that weirdo at Newsweek.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:34 PM
Feb 2019

It started out as a file, then a binder and now a uhaul. Lol.

Kurt Eichenwald was the creepy reporter. The Japanese hentai porn guy.

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Cha

(300,270 posts)
113. Good.. i can't wait.. the sooner the better.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:55 PM
Feb 2019
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
67. This is the guy who was earning double pay from Sanders last time around.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:15 PM
Feb 2019

Good gig if you can get it. They completely crossed the line set historically by Presidential campaigns when it comes to not using your Senate office to campaign for the Presidency. Historically, under this scenario, one stops drawing their senate salary. Numerous republicans pulled this stunt in 2016.

As Bro as they come.

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flotsam

(3,268 posts)
72. I am undecided
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:22 PM
Feb 2019

But will freely state I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016. The staffer is right-it WAS an asshole move. If 2016 Bernie supporters have one complaint it was unfair bias on the part of the DNC. Now in a contest where half the candidates are embracing ideas and ideals he championed for decades people who opposed them in 2016 and who are sitting on the sidelines smear him for acting exactly like their candidate has done for decades. Fuck that staffer and fuck the moron reporter who gave him ink.

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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
106. I supported Hillary in 2016 and I don't see it that way. Bernie is not now nor was he ever a
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

Democrat. The only reason he runs as a Dem is to get his hands on the money we raise to support real Dems. He could never run without our help.

So why not keep your hands off our money this time! After all his is killing it since he announced isn't he. Or do you want DNC help again?

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Undecided
 

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
111. Well then
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:32 PM
Feb 2019

Shouldn't all your "real" democrats return their policy positions to him?

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Joe Biden
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
127. That any of that is his is bull shit. Another Bernie
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:47 AM
Feb 2019

myth. Everyone was talking about universal health care before the ACA passed.

Everyone who graduated college with a huge debt to pay off or who had kids in school talked about making education more affordable.

We all knew Citizens United was a terrible decision when it happened.

Every working class person knew their income was flat while the CEO got richer.

And on and on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

karynnj

(59,609 posts)
73. This is as stupid and as obnoxious as yesterday's Clinton 2016 team attacking Sanders
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:24 PM
Feb 2019

for flying on a chartered plane while helping them in 2016.

It is strange that BOTH of these if written on DU by people who are not paid political operatives could well have been alerted on and possibly removed for "refighting 2016".

It is 2019, the 2020 primaries have started, we do not need this stupid fight to continue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
118. Not Quite
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 11:22 PM
Feb 2019

“In the two years following the presidential election, Sanders continued his frequent private jet travel, spending at least $342,000 on the flights”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
77. Is this guy on the 2020 campaign? No? Then...
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:27 PM
Feb 2019

...who cares what some random guy is saying? This isn’t primary news.

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shanny

(6,709 posts)
84. Rump apologist retweets what? about whom?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:46 PM
Feb 2019

and this is news why?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

RandySF

(62,615 posts)
85. I don't remember "Hillary folks" docxing reporters who wrote critical stories.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:04 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
92. Still fighting the last primary?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:24 PM
Feb 2019

I think there's an alert button for that

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
109. There is also a button
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:27 PM
Feb 2019

to report malicious alerts too.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(10,107 posts)
102. Way off message...
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

Michael Briggs should know better... get off that topic and on to 2020. Hillary Clinton was the most liked politician in the USA for 2016. I thought her staff presented themselves well, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
131. Most liked based on what please?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:14 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Persondem

(1,942 posts)
110. France 1940 Sanders 2020 nt
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:32 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

riversedge

(71,228 posts)
130. Whow. Guessing he missed Bernie asking his followers to be nice.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:20 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
132. Considering David Brock was part of that campaign
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:39 AM
Feb 2019

Is it really an unfair comment?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

betsuni

(26,543 posts)
133. LOL David Brock.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:41 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pecosbob

(7,654 posts)
134. While I certainly wouldn't blame Ms. Clinton for it
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:58 AM
Feb 2019

many of her supporters are/were a**holes, as are/were many of Bernie's supporters. Most acrimonious election cycle I have ever seen. I left the caucus without voting I was so put off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
135. Briggs needs to clean up his own fuckin' house first...
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:06 AM
Feb 2019

Oh, and FUCK that Trump sycophant Maggie Haberman

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
136. It's not an encouraging sign
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:09 AM
Feb 2019

that the Berners are still retroactively fighting Hillary more than they are Trump in 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(11,038 posts)
150. Hummmmm . . .
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:11 PM
Feb 2019

Makes one wonder, does it not?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

liberal N proud

(60,467 posts)
151. And there it is
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:20 PM
Feb 2019

The BoB mentality.

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Joe Biden
 

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(110,329 posts)
152. Hillary Clinton isn't running
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:30 PM
Feb 2019

So what's his fucking point?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
153. Reminds me that the late, newly sainted Barbara Bush
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:36 PM
Feb 2019

repeatedly called Hillary "rhymes with witch" in public, along with a senior member of her husband's campaign staff. This was pre- social media, and I only saw 3 separate televised incidences of "witchy" behaviors in one day (he got into the act with one) before the main campaign back east with Poppy Bush heard and shut them up.

Yeah, we knew Barbara was a royal bitch, but admired her for her...strength.

And we also know, and haven't forgotten, that Sanders had the biggest "manafarts" outside of the Trump campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emulatorloo

(45,082 posts)
155. Sounds like psychological projection to me
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:03 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ucrdem

(15,623 posts)
157. They're flying private jets on Clinton's dime and calling her staff THAT?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:14 AM
Mar 2019

Wow.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(300,270 posts)
158. LOOK in the FREAKING MIRROR, Briggs.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:26 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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