Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders 2016 spokesman calls Clinton folks "some of the biggest assholes in American politics."
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)since calling people assholes probably isn't the "best way to engage respectfully with our Democratic opponents."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)"She's not running, so trashing her is okay. Bernie will approve!"
And he probably will, or at least not call this asshole out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)for himself to be "one of he biggest.."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(28,396 posts)I know, rhetorical question. They can't stop lashing into her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)In a poll Gallup conducted between December 3 and December 12, 15% of Americans said they admired Michele Obama more than any other woman. She easily bested Oprah Winfrey, who was mentioned by 5% of Americans. Hillary Clinton, who has been the most admired woman each year for the last 17 years, landed in third place with 4% of mentions. Current first lady Melania Trump was also cited by 4% of Americans in the poll.
http://fortune.com/2018/12/27/michelle-obama-most-admired-woman/
These are the 20 most admired women in the world for 2018
1. Angelina Jolie
2. Michelle Obama
3. Oprah Winfrey
4. Queen Elizabeth II
5. Hillary Clinton
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/04/11/revealed-the-worlds-20-most-admired-people-20-men-and-20-women-2018/
Now I can think of some pretty unpopular people but she isn't one of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)listed her as most admired. What it means is that she has a significant group of people who respect her more than anyone else. However, it says nothing of the other 96%. I would assume that many admire her, but admire someone else too. Note that Trump likely is on the comparable male with 13% picking him. Yet, I would argue that he is an unusually unpopular President.
There are polls where people state whether they have a favorable or unfavorable opinion. Hillary Clinton was underwater (as was Trump) on the comparison of the two in 2016. I would argue that much of that was due to a campaign of lies --and Russian trolls.
However, I think the truth is that she has a larger group of people who admire her and respect her than most people AND she has a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her than most people. The response to her is extremely polarized.
At this point, as Hillary once said on something else "what difference does it make?" At this point, she has made her mark on history and history, after time passes, will look at what she did. It is possible that she will add to her accomplishments doing things to help Democrats in 2020 and it is possible that she could have a role in a future Democratic Presidency.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)"a larger group of people who have unshakable negative opinions of her" and when you consider Oprah has 5% she's doing pretty well. In addition, I'd mention that she beat both Individual ! and B. Sanders by Millions, yet we are always hearing how popular they are so for a Sanders adoree to speak of her in such a manner is both disrespectful and ignoring that she beat his guy by a wide margin.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)It says nothing of the other 96 percent. The only comparison to Oprah is that 5 percent admired her most. From this, you can't estimate anything comparable to favorable/unfavorable.
From polling on favorability, Clinton a large number of people who answer unfavorable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
You have no way of knowing if they voted unfavorably...there are always other options..and frankly 4% of the people in this country is a HUGE number and finally, please present proof that she is so disliked aside from the say-so of some guy who is hooked up with Bernie Sanders. Further, I would bet Post #102 is right on the money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:31 AM - Edit history (2)
Favorably or unfavorably. Here is one link, http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm . As you can see, all of the polls show that she has more people saying unfavorable than favorable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)There is not a single poll later than January 2016 where the number favorable is higher than the number unfavorable. (In fact, I think the point where negative started to be higher than positive was in mid 2015 - since June 2015, there are at best a few polls where the numbers are almost the same.
Look at http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm - There are several different pollsters - all getting that same pattern. It shows that the email stories had a very major impact on favorability early on even as she was seen as the inevitable winner -- and without Comey, she still likely would have won - even with all the Russian interference. (Here I am looking at head to head polls.) This means that even as the majority of the country was indicating that they would vote for her - there were more people answering "unfavorable" than "favorable". (I would suggest that meant they preferred her positions and had faith that she could be a good President - even though they had qualms about her. NOTE - that is absolutely conjecture on my part based on those contradictory results that existed even before Trump became the nominee when she was matched with other Republicans. )
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Between that and her having been voted most admired woman up until Michelle Obama took first place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)This means that 4% of the people polled are VERY VERY impressed by Clinton. It says nothing about the remaining 96 %. Note also, she is tied with Melania!
My point is that asking who is your most admired woman is not likely to give any real information on the full distribution of how the entire population views a person. It is possible that there are people further down the list - where fewer say they are the one most admired - who overall have a higher percent of people viewing them favorably.
Note that Trump gets a much higher percent on the male side -- and we KNOW he is seen very unfavorably by over half of the country.
The link to the many polls are not looking at most admired, but at estimates of how the population of US adults views individuals. On those polls, what is clear is that she has more people having an unfavorable impression than a favorable one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)This is a country where most people pick who they'ed rather have a drink with rather than policy and millions more chose HRC over BS so for a BS supporter to be dunning her is just wishful thinking and not helpful to BS at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)statistical analysis for more than 20 years. I tried to explain things as clearly as I could, but obviously I failed to get you to understand the basic meanings of both your own cited polls and the ones that are designed to measure favorability. I also was not "dunning" Clinton. I was stating accurately what the favorability polls mean. I have a hard time understanding why you can not see that it is entirely possible for 4% of the population to admire someone more than anyone else and for 50% of the population to say they do not see her favorably. (Maybe by taking an analogous example where no emotion is involved? ie would you have a problem if data showed that 4% of the women picked brown as their favorite dress color - while in a different survey 56% of women disliked brown as a dress color? )
PS I am not supporting Sanders - I am undecided between a few others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)it's clear who made the statement, and a rather vicious supporter at that, IMHO, and I think saying HRC is so universally disliked reflects his bias and nothing more.
The results are calculated from the combination of responses to two questions whether a respondent admires the figure at all and then whether they are the figure the respondent admires the most
In the list of global-only figures Obama ranks first in 19 countries, compared to only 6 for Bill Gates. However, as the former president performs relatively poorly in populous countries like China (7th) and Russia (12th), Gates who places in the top four in every country listed scoops the top spot.
https://bipartisanreport.com/2018/04/11/most-admired-people-of-2018-rankings-released-trump-freak-out-coming/
BS is admired by 1% in these polls
does that mean 99% dislike him? I don't think so.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-gallup-polls-most-admired-man-and-woman-in-2018/
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/12/29/most-admired-men-and-women-in-2018/5/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,867 posts)I NEVER wrote that the 94% who did not admire HRC most, disliked her. In fact, I linked to something that actually asked favorable/unfavorable. I specifically said that you can not estimate whether most people favored anyone given that 4% that admired them most. (Obviously if someone is picked by 50%+ people, you could say that most like her/him.
It is YOU, not me, that is using the percent that most admire someone to project how high the favorability is. I said you mathematically can't do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,425 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)Glass House.
she
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funny how I have watched clip after clip of Bernie in the run up for his town Hall tonight saying: " We will not let this President divide us."
Sanders needs to get his people in line with that pledge.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sigh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)converting to Sanders voters, his presidential run is pretty much over before super Tuesday.
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)Dragging the guys name through the mud for the last two years. And NOW you are not going to vote for him?
Please
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trenzalore
(2,490 posts)Just pointing out Bernie has to win hearts and minds, Hillary isn't running so she doesn't have to do anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(109,425 posts)She beat him by 4 million votes, so he has a lot of minds to change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)a majority of us will vote for Bernie. He has to find votes somewhere else.
And since we were in the majority in 2016, he won't find enough to make till March 3rd, 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)say a word against him.
I learned early on in 2016 what to say about Bernie and his supporters and it looks like it still holds true for 2020 too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(86,755 posts)Please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(7,014 posts)if DU is any indication.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)my wife's SUV.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(304,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,339 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KayF
(1,345 posts)bogus gotchas to make environmentalists look like hypocrites. They did that against Al Gore a lot.
I could be wrong but I don't remember this kind of criticism being made in good faith, by a person with an actual interest in C02 emissions.
But to use this against Bernie for the travel he did to support Hillary, that's a whole new level.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)This is Bernie not helping:
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KayF
(1,345 posts)for example Alex Jones:
https://www.infowars.com/bernie-sanders-spent-300000-on-private-jet-travel-in-one-month-report/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"1/July 12, 2016....1 day after the Dem Convention was done.."
The Convention was held July 25-28.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OilemFirchen
(7,153 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,920 posts)July 12,2016. Before the Democratic convention. I was under the impression he didn't do any campaigning for till way, way later and I've seen many complaints that is was just 3 times or so. By that list it was 40 times.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?412571-1/bernie-sanders-endorses-hillary-clinton
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)The Convention ended on July 25. Look at his next appearance. Plus, I'd love to see where that list came from.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton in Portsmouth
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,920 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,920 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)And when Sanders is out of the running because of all the former Clinton voters and their families that he and his "fans" are alienating, then all that money raised will go to the actual primary winning nominee's campaign.
Go Bernie!!!
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)by. They act like they are taking off from where they left off in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)Seems so.
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Having developed it from a previous run for POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....I was flooded with emails from him and his surrogates beginning in December 2015.
I wonder what event happened in December 2015 that would have prompted that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(86,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(153,465 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)that "list", too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)places on the "schedule"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(304,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KayF
(1,345 posts)all I have is my honest recollection of the attacks I've heard.
What about your honest recollection? Have you heard these attacks before and who are they coming from, as you remember them?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)Weve all heard it re: Al Gore, his jet travel and his big home.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)& now after being called out on their bullshit.. they're the victims... Classic
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Hillary Clinton at this time is not anywhere or connected to any Presidential Democratic Candidate.
Love the way people are working overtime with the Clinton garbage. Folks have to get out of the old History and move on to a new History.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)Tell him to zip it. People are just responding to Zac Petkanas smears.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)This person is looking for his personal Justification for not seeing the real issues that caused the Standard Barrier to not bring it home.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Generic Other
(28,999 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)by Russia and Jill Stein's Fucking LIES and well as others.. and the M$M?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The last 96 hrs of that Campaign was pure ugly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trenzalore
(2,490 posts)They do not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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mcar
(43,327 posts)Hmm, who could that be?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,447 posts)There is one camp here constantly stirring the pot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(135,325 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(304,047 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/bernie-sanders-democrats-identity-politics-231710
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(27,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)Its understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but its an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record, said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.
snip=============================================
Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant LGBTQ people all over the country.
Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesnt understand.
snip==========================================================
There are certainly several friends of equality in this race, but the 32 community leaders who comprise HRCs Board of Directors have unanimously decided that Hillary Clinton is the champion we need to fight for us each day on the campaign trail and every day in the White House, said Lorenz.
Have a donut, Mr. Briggs.
As a matter of fact, take the whole box.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(86,755 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)
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yeah, have a donut, Briggs.. and think up new ways to insult Dem Orgs with "Establishment". that tired ol BS insult that means absolutely nothing. Less than fucking ZERO.
lapucelle Mahalo!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2997841-End-Game-2016.html
Mahao Cha...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)".. one of the most disliked politicians in America".. who got 3 MILLION more Fucking Votes that the asshole that was Rigged in by Russian with the help of Fucking jill stein's Fucking LIES.
Thanks for the Shining Light on It
lol@ "..total ingrates.."
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)takes an asshole to know one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,447 posts)It is clear to me what is going on and what went on when Bernie was campaigning for Hillary
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trenzalore
(2,490 posts)Story would have died in about a 1/2 day.
Now the story lives on.
This was the guy he had in charge of talking to the media in 2016? Think he would have got that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,447 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)
battles.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trenzalore
(2,490 posts)They are not running and they don't have to worry about alienating anyone.
Bernie should expect a lot of an incoming, much more than 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(30,217 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)Evan McMorris-Santoro BuzzFeed News Reporter
Ruby Cramer BuzzFeed News Reporter
Posted on July 24, 2016, at 9:39 p.m. ET
An internal End Game memo left in a Los Angeles hotel restaurant details extraordinary demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats unity event.
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Senior officials from the Sanders campaign declined to comment. The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign did not respond to requests for comment.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2997841-End-Game-2016.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maven
(10,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,817 posts)Maybe 20.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)It may garner a few clicks but who cares about 2016? It is click bait to create a message for Democrats who fall for it.
We have many fantastic Democratic candidates. Why are we allowing the media to make this a circus of circular firing squads? imo
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WordsMatter
(80 posts)From Politico: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793
Michael Briggs, Sanders 2016 campaign spokesman who often traveled with Sanders on the private flights, said Clinton and her staff were total ingrates in light of the efforts the Vermont senator put in to try to help elect her in the general election.
You can see why shes one of the most disliked politicians in America. Shes not nice. Her people are not nice, he said. [Sanders] busted his tail to fly all over the country to talk about why it made sense to elect Hillary Clinton and the thanks that [we] get is this kind of petty stupid sniping a couple years after the fact.
It doesnt make me feel good to feel this way but theyre some of the biggest assholes in American politics, he added.
People should read the entire article. All this in-fighting is exactly what Trump and Putin want Democrats to do and it is not healthy for our party...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)He seems like too much of a bitter hot head to be taken seriously.
Its understandable and consistent with the establishment organizations voting for the establishment candidate, but its an endorsement that cannot possibly be based on the facts and the record, said Sanders campaign spokesperson Michael Briggs.
snip======================================
Asked whether he meant to include bisexual and transgender people in his description of gay men and lesbians, Briggs said that was correct and he meant LGBTQ people all over the country.
Briggs declined to elaborate on what actions the Human Rights Campaign has taken that he doesnt understand.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WordsMatter
(80 posts)They are not in the Politico article in this thread...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,817 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WordsMatter
(80 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)be taken seriously".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
namahage
(1,160 posts)Clinton supporters hold grudges.
Why should I expect this article to provide light rather than heat?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BooScout
(10,407 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What good purpose does this serve? I'm referring to the spox comments AND the OP.
And would it surprise the spox to know that the feelings are reciprocated?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(19,516 posts)He sounds thin-skinned, entitled, and abusive. I wonder if he was one of the campaign people responsible for the persuasive predatory culture on the 2016 campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(17,629 posts)This is a revolutionary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
struggle4progress
(119,682 posts)To each their own, I guess
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,499 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:43 PM - Edit history (2)
You have to wonder why.... what good purpose does it serve? Could it be to open old wounds within the party?
Certainly it wont get Sanders votes....
Again ...,to split the party on purpose?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cane4Dems
(308 posts)Sanders is in for a shock this time! Last time it was easy for him to go around the country just throwing up random policies without any actual plans and let his surrogates attack Clinton 24/7
This time he is one of the frontrunners so it is going to be harder for him to run his campaign like last time. Can't wait for other candidates to attack him the way he attacked Sec. Clinton.
I anticipate he is going to have lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes in the primary, and he will cling onto his campaign till the bitter end.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trenzalore
(2,490 posts)They barely touched it out of fear of alienating his supporters.
This will not be the case in 2020 as there are 16 people running and I'm pretty sure everything in it is in the possession of anyone who hired Clinton staff.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)This unused U-Haul's worth of stuff. What's your source on that?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,661 posts)It started out as a file, then a binder and now a uhaul. Lol.
Kurt Eichenwald was the creepy reporter. The Japanese hentai porn guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(304,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Good gig if you can get it. They completely crossed the line set historically by Presidential campaigns when it comes to not using your Senate office to campaign for the Presidency. Historically, under this scenario, one stops drawing their senate salary. Numerous republicans pulled this stunt in 2016.
As Bro as they come.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flotsam
(3,268 posts)But will freely state I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016. The staffer is right-it WAS an asshole move. If 2016 Bernie supporters have one complaint it was unfair bias on the part of the DNC. Now in a contest where half the candidates are embracing ideas and ideals he championed for decades people who opposed them in 2016 and who are sitting on the sidelines smear him for acting exactly like their candidate has done for decades. Fuck that staffer and fuck the moron reporter who gave him ink.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Democrat. The only reason he runs as a Dem is to get his hands on the money we raise to support real Dems. He could never run without our help.
So why not keep your hands off our money this time! After all his is killing it since he announced isn't he. Or do you want DNC help again?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
flotsam
(3,268 posts)Shouldn't all your "real" democrats return their policy positions to him?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)myth. Everyone was talking about universal health care before the ACA passed.
Everyone who graduated college with a huge debt to pay off or who had kids in school talked about making education more affordable.
We all knew Citizens United was a terrible decision when it happened.
Every working class person knew their income was flat while the CEO got richer.
And on and on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
karynnj
(59,867 posts)for flying on a chartered plane while helping them in 2016.
It is strange that BOTH of these if written on DU by people who are not paid political operatives could well have been alerted on and possibly removed for "refighting 2016".
It is 2019, the 2020 primaries have started, we do not need this stupid fight to continue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
In the two years following the presidential election, Sanders continued his frequent private jet travel, spending at least $342,000 on the flights
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-private-jet-flights-1182793
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...who cares what some random guy is saying? This isnt primary news.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)and this is news why?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(69,092 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)I think there's an alert button for that
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)to report malicious alerts too.
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)use it
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mike Nelson
(10,238 posts)
Michael Briggs should know better... get off that topic and on to 2020. Hillary Clinton was the most liked politician in the USA for 2016. I thought her staff presented themselves well, too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Persondem
(2,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
riversedge
(72,504 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Is it really an unfair comment?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(27,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pecosbob
(7,892 posts)many of her supporters are/were a**holes, as are/were many of Bernie's supporters. Most acrimonious election cycle I have ever seen. I left the caucus without voting I was so put off.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Oh, and FUCK that Trump sycophant Maggie Haberman
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)that the Berners are still retroactively fighting Hillary more than they are Trump in 2019
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(11,401 posts)Makes one wonder, does it not?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberal N proud
(60,878 posts)The BoB mentality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(113,958 posts)So what's his fucking point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)repeatedly called Hillary "rhymes with witch" in public, along with a senior member of her husband's campaign staff. This was pre- social media, and I only saw 3 separate televised incidences of "witchy" behaviors in one day (he got into the act with one) before the main campaign back east with Poppy Bush heard and shut them up.
Yeah, we knew Barbara was a royal bitch, but admired her for her...strength.
And we also know, and haven't forgotten, that Sanders had the biggest "manafarts" outside of the Trump campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(45,504 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,700 posts)Wow.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden