When you lose your integrity, you have lost the race.

[William769]

In the past week, Sanders has put out misinformation, misleading messages and down and out falsehoods. His campaign is in meltdown mode, his supporters are (well fill in the blank).

Tomorrow will be the crushing blow to his campaign with no path to the nomination. What will Sanders do? We will find out tomorrow night.

Mr. Sanders you have lost your integrity so the things you say you stand for IMHO have fallen to the wayside.

Not only have you lost your integrity, you have just lost.

I may take a beating for posting this but someone had to say it.

[PatSeg]

1. Yes

Unfortunately, that is the way it is looking to me right now. It is really sad actually. I suppose presidential races can do that to some people, especially when winning seems within reach and becomes the primary focus.

[LisaM]

19. I agree.

It is sad to see this campaign apparently in its waning days, even though I am no fan of Sanders.

I wish there was a way to give him a graceful way out. The problem is that I don't think he would take it.

[PatSeg]

70. Yes, I would to see him exit gracefully

but as you say, he probably wouldn't take it.

[Under The Radar]

2. It should be that way

But regretfully it is often not that way.
I think Adam Schiff and the house impeachment managers are full of integrity. People of integrity follows the rules and abide by the law, and the cheaters view that as a weakness.

[William769]

4. The truth will always win & so will the goodguys. It just may take awhile.

I have to believe that. What else is there?

[Under The Radar]

12. What else is there? Ulcers.

Doing the right thing feels good at times because your conscious is clean, you can walk down the street with your head held high and no fear from looking anyone else square in the eye. With Integrity you have the advantage of sleeping well. And your struggles in the fight to preserve integrity, steal precious time away from you wife and children. there is no glory.
The Cheaters have bought and paid for the judges, and corporations have arbitration laws to circumvent trials.

My father, a later day Atticus Finch as a civil rights attorney always taught me, “honesty pays, but not very much”

[Under The Radar]

13. But I agree, Bernie lost his place when he went negative

[calimary]

28. And his commercial trying to make it look like President Obama is endorsing him

was deliberate, and deliberately misleading.

I can’t possibly imagine President Obama endorsing anyone else when his own loyal, supportive, and effective Vice President is in the running.

Just can’t imagine that.

[Under The Radar]

29. Not at all different than a lie

[sheshe2]

3. Yes.

That is all I will say at this time.

[SunSeeker]

5. K & R

[subana]

6. more & more lately...

...he reminds me more of the way republicans act!

[Sloumeau]

7. In the past 40 years, I have never seen a Democratic campaign produce so much...

raw, unadulterated nonsense, garbage, untruths, half-truths, and misleading statements as Bernie Sanders's 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary Nominee quest. He and his surrogates should be mightily embarrassed.

[emmaverybo]

8. Agree.

[William769]

9. You are correct.

Unfortunately they will not.

[PatSeg]

11. It really is embarrassing

And Sanders could have done very well without all the garbage. People responded to his message and his rallies.

[Scurrilous]

36. I think it falls on Bernie.

He 's the one who kept saying that the revolution would rise up and do this, do that. Pass M4A. Get Congress off pork. Convince Mitch to be an actual human being. All enormous tasks. But he told them that all they had to do was believe and they could do it. Heady shit. Totally false, but heady, especially in young kids w/o any real knowledge of how things work. Any wonder that these same people now falsely believe they can win elections by tweeting 'Joe Biden is senile' hundreds of times a day. They were told they could achieve stuff by acting up. Bernie is the one who told them this, Bernie is to blame.

[Thekaspervote]

10. Sanders net favorability in today's quinnipiac poll has dropped 11 pts. Says a lot

[William769]

16. Yes it does.

[NurseJackie]

14. No beating from me! I'm glad you posted this!

Right up there with temperament and demeanor... topping the list... is INTEGRITY! The candidate that I end up voting for will have a monopoly on it.

Look, we've seen this all before. We know exactly how this is going to end and it won't be pretty. This will drag on and on to the convention and beyond. I've neither seen, nor heard ANYTHING that will make me believe differently.

[William769]

15. ...

[True Blue American]

33. Same thing in 2016

Even at the Convention.

[jrthin]

65. Same exact playbook. You're correct.

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. I really liked Sanders in 2016, and have really liked him this election cycle - until 2 weeks ago.

Now he's just an embarrassment, and too many of his followers (which I used to be!) have gone off the deep end in divisive, snotty, conspiratorial ways.

[William769]

18. I feel sorry for a lot of his supporters.

He gave them hope & to end like this is just so sad.

[Hekate]

82. That's pretty much how my husband feels, and it's sad. He really felt an affinity for ...

...the grumpy old Jewish guy from the Bronx, altho hubby hasn't lived there since he was a teenager in 1964 and the family moved to SoCal. Everything about Bernie that makes me roll my eyes -- his Marxist ideology, the vehemence with which he waves his arms, the volume and anger -- seems to remind my husband of some long-lost uncle when you add his age and ethnicity.

After a certain point I tried to soft-peddle my own opinions at home in the name of peace (tho it may not have always come out that way) -- but if something came out in the news, I'd say I'd already heard about that (at DU, usually) and sorry, it was true. When it came to Sanders' more toxic followers, I did say more than once that I would have cut that man so much slack if only he would denounce them all and tell them to stop saying they worked for him.

I can understand the disappointment now. I feel it from my husband when Bernie comes on.

Hang in there. Let's just get rid of Trump. God willing, as hubby says.

[brer cat]

20. You won't have to take a beating alone.

A lot of us agree with you.

[William769]

23. ...

[Maru Kitteh]

21. I'm honestly hoping that Sanders proves so many doubters wrong

(present company included) and actually steps aside, appropriately, when it is clear that our nominee is Biden AND enthusiastically works with all of that vigor and energy he claims to pull his supporters into the fold. Let him show real commitment to what the Democratic voters have said, and put our party and our country above what I and many others see as the vanity of his "revolution."

[William769]

26. ...

[Jarqui]

76. I have a feeling he's going to get spanked so hard at the polls

he'll have no choice.

[Cha]

22. Mahalo, William.. this so needed to be said!

[William769]

40. Triple meaning here.

[Cha]

62. What a beautiful music vid.. Beautiful and

Peaceful Mahalo, Bill

[Hekate]

85. Gorgeous

❤️❤️❤️

[ashredux]

24. Bernie cannot win....simple as that...Period...Stop

[NoMoreRepugs]

25. Where are the Sanders defenders? Zero so far.

[McKim]

86. Maybe the Sanders Supporters are Tired

Maybe the Sanders supporters like me are tired of the bashing. You may need our vote down the line someday. With the country in a health and economic crisis it is easy to get overly excited.
Why do I support Sanders? I remember my parents worrying about how to pay for my mom’s insulin in the 1940s and 50’s and her doctor bills and hospital bills....I want universal health care and free university. Young people are really struggling. I am not evil and I am tired of all the bashing. Looks like your candidate is winning, can you be a gracious winner?

[still_one]

27. Well stated William

[William769]

45. Thank you.

[still_one]

53. ......................

[safeinOhio]

30. Michigan votes will tell the story tomorrow.

Be a great picture of Mid-West voters.

[LakeArenal]

31. His surrogates are awful.

[Evolve Dammit]

32. Judge and Jury already decided here. I prefer to hear from both candidates in upcoming debate.

[William769]

34. If Sanders will only show up after tomorrow's beating. nt

[Evolve Dammit]

35. How democratic of you. You must be clairvoyant and unwilling to hear from the remaining challenger?

[greatauntoftriplets]

37. The rancor has been so tiring.

I'll be happy to see it end (hopefully). After three years of Spanky, we need some normalcy.

[madaboutharry]

39. +1

Hello friend.

[greatauntoftriplets]

43. Hello to you!

I'm sorry about Mayor Pete.

[William769]

44. He's doing his job for Joe. That's all we can ask.

[greatauntoftriplets]

49. He certainly is.

As is my original choice, Kamala Harris.

[William769]

50. Seems to be a common theme.

[greatauntoftriplets]

51. Yup.

[madaboutharry]

38. The lie Sanders told about Amy and Pete being forced out was outrageous.

Pete went on The Today Show this morning and said that neither he nor Amy were forced out by "The Establishment." Pete said after South Carolina he saw he had no path and made his own decision to drop out of the race.

[trof]

41. So...how did the dumpster win?

[William769]

42. He had a little help from his friends.

[NYMinute]

46. I disagree.

To lose something, one has to possess it in the first place.

His lack of integrity was always evident to some of us ... but now, the whole country has seen it.

[Stuart G]

47. Bernie lost a lot of integrity,but guess who else totally lost ALL his integrity.1 guess-(DT)

DT has NO INTEGRITY ...no, no..I won't spell out that name..

[William769]

48. That's why

God willing & the creek don't rise, He's toast!

[CaptainTruth]

52. I voted for him in the 2016 primaries but his repeated attacks on Democrats have driven me away.

Just today I saw another misleading Bernie tweet attacking Biden.

I'm sick of it. He's driven me away from him.

[KPN]

54. You may take a beating? Lol. Someone had to

say it?



There’s a virtual feeding frenzy going on. Someone had to ...

[William769]

61. What can I say?

People like responding to truth.

[c-rational]

67. +1, Great OP - Thanks

[William769]

68. you're welcome.

[radical noodle]

55. Politicians with integrity

are most apparent by how they act when they lose. Hillary after losing to Obama. Pete and Amy after seeing no path after SC. Even Bloomberg, when he dropped out, wasn't bitter and hateful. Let's see how this plays out, but I think we know what's coming after the 2016 convention.

[grantcart]

56. He thinks we are idiots

The implosion of Sanderism has been breath taking

[PJMcK]

57. Fascinating responses your OP received

Nearly every response is from a Biden supporter.

I think I saw 2 Undecideds and 1 Sanders supporter.

I don't disagree with your point. It's just odd when there isn't any dissent. It feels too much like an echo chamber.

Bottom line is that Sanders was never going to be the Democratic nominee.

[William769]

59. I'm sorry, but I have no control over who does and does not respond to my OP.

[PJMcK]

63. Of course you don't!

My observation was without expressing a perspective. Well, except for my last sentence.

Your OP was fine. As I wrote, it simply felt weird.

[azureblue]

58. Sanders? Or

people claiming to be his supporters? There are proven trolls claiming to be Sanders supporters, trying to spread FUD. And people who take the spewing of trolls as fact so they can then try to validate why they won't vote for Sanders.

[William769]

60. I'm going by what Sanders says and his campaign approves for consumption.

[oasis]

71. Let's say only half are Sander's supporters, it's still shameful behavior. nt

[TwilightZone]

77. Actual supporters are a real problem.

"But there’s a specific group of Sanders fans that pose a real problem for him."

Article from Vox on the subject: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287651619

[mcar]

84. Sanders himself and his own staffers

[dawn5651]

64. i have been saying for a long time that sanders would run the same type of campaign that he ran

against clinton...and it is happening right before our eyes...he is a very sore loser...

[jrthin]

66. No beating from me. This had to be said.

[Rainbow Droid]

69. I agree, despite backing Sanders in 2016 I feel his campaign in 2020 has been negative and weak.

And he needs to drop out after the crushing losses coming today and he also absolutely must endorse Biden.

Unity behind shared, basic American values is how we're going to win this year, and Bernie shares those values.

He can still make a valuable contribution going forward, he just can't become President.

[NNadir]

72. I'm no fan of Senator Sanders or his tactics but...

...there is plenty of evidence in the White House that a lack of integrity has no bearing on the outcome of elections.

[TomCADem]

73. If Bernie Cant Win, His Campaign Will Work Hard to Undermine Democrats

Bernie is not going to change. He will go through the motions of supporting Biden, but his campaign is filled with folks whose mission is to attack is to attack the Democratic party.

[dalton99a]

75. No doubt.

[William769]

78. you're right.

[peggysue2]

74. And if you recall . . .

When Biden slumped, his campaign marked as DOA (multiple times), we did not hear the scathing attacks, the disinformation and/or insults hurled at the opposition. Defense, yes; angry attacks, no. In fact, after his defeat in Iowa, Biden admitted it was a 'punch to the gut.'

There's a difference in character we're being exposed to during this campaign. Biden brings people into the tent, embraces former opponents.

The other side?

Well, I leave that up to the interpretation of others.

[William769]

79. You say exactly why Biden is winning.

Character

[lambchopp59]

80. No beating, just a call for calm

There's tremendous frustration to overcome with empathy, not with bashing the integrity of those who aren't completely in line with a point of view. I'm saddened that more progressive candidates are dropping out, as fighting for the economically disadvantaged is so essential after the R's get done with their economic wrecking ball, even when progress can only be incremental with this congress.
I don't want to hear any more "centrist" garbage about "working across the isle" in such a surgical-emergency obstructionist, greedy, self-centered and pathetic congressional quagmire as we continue to tolerate.
We certainly don't need to lose financially struggling independent voters this round. I agree Sanders has pulled some alienating gaffes.
Even those who do everything right, honestly and with tremendous integrity can lose, and it hurts tremendously to see that effort totally fail. Kamala Harris' campaign is one I hope returns for another round.
Calling out the integrity of those having a tantrum because they didn't get their unicorn is likely counterproductive at this point.

[DIVINEprividence]

81. Biden should just be sweet as honey with Sanders

It seems to me he has this locked up. He should focus 100% on Trump and either ignore or be super duper nice to him. The later the wiser course at this point. If you have achieved victory why stir up the hornets nest? Kill em with kindness as they say.

[mcar]

83. His behavior, and that of his staff and supporters, has been quite immature

Bernie is not entitled to the nomination. He had to earn it. Thus far, he has not.