Bernie Sanders @SenSanders: Minimum weeks of paid medical leave for workers:

[BeckyDem]

Link to tweet

Medicare for All 2020

[Sloumeau]

1. Min. weeks of paid medical leave for Bernie staffers after he loses: 0 nt

[George II]

2. This is false. I just checked the UK and Germany, neither have 52 weeks of paid medical leave....

...probably not in many other countries, either.

[Hoyt]

4. Beat me to it. I just looked also, and Sanders is spreading BS.

That is not to say we don’t need a lot of improvement. But, distorting facts won’t help.

[George II]

5. The two countries I looked up have only a fraction of "52 weeks" paid medical leave...

He may be singling out maternity leave, not "general" medical leave, but even so I doubt it's as high as 52 weeks in most of those countries.

He throws stuff out and a large % of his followers believe it. Who does that remind you of?

[Hoyt]

7. It's bad when we have to fight distortions within the party. If he starts this crud tomorrow,

I hope Biden exposes this junk.

Sanders should have dropped out if he is going to resort to desperate BS.

Again, improvements are neede, but not based on inaccuracies.

[TwilightZone]

13. Australia seems to be wrong, as well.

You'd think he would have someone fact-check this stuff.

[BidenBacker]

24. Factchecking

would reduce the rate of producing Tweets by 73%.

Or in the case of Trump 100%.

[Hoyt]

3. Could someone ask Sanders to provide a link. I don't think that data is correct.

[George II]

6. It's grossly incorrect.

[betsuni]

9. Many replies in that Twitter thread pointing out how wrong it is.

It's absurd.

[BeckyDem]

11. Do your own research if you're interested. Compare contrast.

United States

0 0 0


There is no federal or state statutory minimum paid vacation or paid public holidays. Paid leave is at the discretion of the employers to its employees.[182][183] According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, 77% of private employers offer paid vacation to their employees; full-time employees earn on average 10 vacation days after one year of service.[184] Similarly, 77% of private employers give their employees paid time off during public holidays, on average 8 holidays per year.[184][185] Some employers offer no vacation at all.[186] The average number of paid vacation days offered by private employers is 10 days after 1 year of service, 14 days after 5 years, 17 days after 10 years, and 20 days after 20 years.[184][187]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

[Hoyt]

12. He prevaricated about 52 weeks in other countries, and that kind of junk is why voters are

rejecting him. And supporters appear to be doubling down on his BS.

[BeckyDem]

15. United States: 0 0 0

That is the point. I'll leave you to be inflamed about the rest.

[Hoyt]

17. No, the point is that although we need to improve our safety net, we don't need Sanders

— or any other candidate — lying to us to get it done, or being so unaware to distort truth.

[BeckyDem]

18. Yea, he is so way off. lol

ok

[Hoyt]

20. He's not much better at counting delegates, either. Take care.

[BeckyDem]

23. United States: 0 0 0

Bye

[Hoyt]

26. Roughly 70% of US workers have sick leave. Not great, but better than Zero.

[BeckyDem]

32. There is no federal or state statutory minimum paid vacation or paid public holidays.

Not great is correct, and what is given is a pittance compared to other governments.

[Hoyt]

33. But, Sanders still significantly distorted levels of sick leave that we might aspire to.

[BeckyDem]

36. ZERO guaranteed by US government.

Have a good night.

[TwilightZone]

14. It's wrong on at least three countries, and probably more.

He really should have people fact-check this stuff before posting it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. 16 weeks in Norway, one of the more generous countries - not 52.

[George II]

16. "Do your own research"? He blatantly exaggerates (or lies, as an extreme) and WE have to research...

....the true facts?

That's not how it works, BeckyDem.

If he's going to give a list of countries that have 52 weeks of "paid medical leave" (anyone find it coincidental that they're ALL identical at 52 weeks?) the least he could do is provide the source of that information.

Lacking that, it leads one to believe that it's untrue.

[BeckyDem]

21. Yea, its good to check.

Availability of paid leave 32 of 34 OECD countries guarantee paid leave for personal illness.oThe United States and the Republic of Korea are the only OECD countries that do not guarantee paid leave for personal illness.•Duration of paid leave:28 of 34 OECD countries provide at least 6 months of paid leave for personal illness.29 of 34 OECD countries provide at least 3 months of paid leave for personal illness.•Wage replacement rate

https://www.worldpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/WORLD%20Report%20-%20Personal%20Medical%20Leave%20OECD%20Country%20Approaches_0.pdf

[George II]

25. Well now, 6 months is 26 weeks, 3 months is 13 weeks...

....26 weeks is half of 52 weeks, and 13 weeks is one-quarter of 52 weeks.

So where did that long list of countries with "52 weeks" come from?

I'll anxiously await an answer from you or, better yet, Senator Sanders.

[BeckyDem]

27. How far is 26 weeks from zero? That would be the USA.

Is that really the trouble, 52 versus 26, or 13? hmmm

[TwilightZone]

29. The problem is fact-checking.

You clearly don't have a problem with all of the errors in the data, but it makes the campaign look like they couldn't be bothered to fact-check.

Maybe that's why they can't figure out that the campaign is over.

[BeckyDem]

30. From a Biden supporter, ok.

[George II]

31. You're avoiding the fact that Sanders claimed that all those countries listed have 52 weeks...

...of paid medical leave.

Doesn't it bother you that he blatantly misrepresented (resisting saying "lied&quot the duration of paid medical leave?

Turning your comment around, 13 or 26 is NOT 52, that doesn't trouble you?

[BeckyDem]

34. No. We have none guaranteed, any mistake is not the gravest error compared to ours.

We are far behind, we guarantee ZERO. Private sector is horrible as well, far from adequate.

[George II]

37. But he said that whole list of countries has FIFTY TWO weeks, which is "far from" true.

Why don't you acknowledge that instead of the "zero" talking point?

[BeckyDem]

38. Zero isn't a talking point, its a reality for US workers. I already said it is inconsequential

imo regarding the exact figures and why. 26 weeks, 13 weeks? Take the most conservative figures and we are no where near that.
If you really believe the United States now looks so much better with those figures, then please, feel free to enjoy your achievement in outing Bernie Sanders.

[George II]

39. 52 IS a talking point and either an exaggeration or an intentional misrepresentation....

....for some reason you're unwilling to address that, so I guess we're done here.

Have a great evening.

[BeckyDem]

41. Was addressed, twice. Its relevant to you, and best to ignore 26 weeks, 13 weeks that we

do not have by any stretch of figures. Zero guaranteed by US government.

Have a great night.

[William769]

40. At this point she is arguing for the sake of arguing.

That's their MO.

[George II]

42. Yes, I see that. Thanks for confirming it (I thought it was only me!)

[William769]

43. Just wanted to save you a headache.

[Aquaria]

8. Huh.

If only there were a way for him to make that happen. You know, a way to write down everything he wants done--and then a place where he can try to get other people to agree to do something about it!

Why is he always screeching about what he wants done, but never DOING anything about it himself? Sheesh, 30 years in DC, and you'd think he'd figure out how that works. Statesmen create legislation and then build the coalitions to get it passed.

Ah. Now I see the problem. Working with others to get things done. You can't just yell about wanting it and then yelling even more when people don't jump to obey.

Funny how that works.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

10. Lol

[oasis]

19. Someone better "bern" the midnight oil and get their facts straight.

[ismnotwasm]

22. Is this a real account?

[highplainsdem]

35. Sanders is being called out on Twitter for the gross misrepresentations there.

I don't know why he thought posting incorrect data would help his cause.

[mvd]

44. K&R

We are way behind. Unfortunately the new bill doesn’t cover enough, but I blame the a Republicans for that.

[George II]

45. 1. No we're not. 2. If the new bill doesn't cover enough, perhaps Sen. Sanders can write and....

...introduce a better one. Unfortunately that hasn't happened.