Trump's approval going up should be a wake up call

[Legends303]

This election will not be easy to win and where is Biden since Tuesday, he should controlling the messaging of the Democratic Party. Democrats should be running ads up and down the swing states about Trump’s incompetent handling of the c-virus.

[Rorey]

1. UP??????

WTF is wrong with people????

[Celerity]

4. 23 point swing to the positive in his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in a new ABC/Ipsos poll

he went from a minus 11 to a plus 12 in net approval in a week

it is just one poll, but still, wtf

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213135131

[still_one]

17. What exactly does "approval mean"? In the case you presented, "approval of the crisis". From a

week ago he didn't take it seriously, now it "appears" he is taking it seriously.with his PR news conferences

From my perspective, approval is a very inaccurate and volatile term

Let's see an "approval" poll after the press conference yesterday?

It sure wasn't impressive, and he was contradicted by the FDA and members of the press, so I suspect the volatility of that approval will bounce right back down, especially as this progresses, and more people are impacted adversely\


Thanks for the poll

[Celerity]

24. it is indeed all quite nebulous atm, and will continue to be so for months I fear

Rump and Rethugs will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to gaslight and spin and manipulate this to their advantage. I can see the timing of the 'Trump cheques' (what the orange fucker and his legion of goons will spin them as) being planned out for maximum electoral impact down the road.

I am so, so worried about the Census. They can systematically fuck us for the next 10 years at a multiplicity of levels, including robbing us of vital House seats (and also going on another new round of gerrymandering via the state legislatures) and choking off monies flowing to the Blue states.

[still_one]

29. I agree with everything you said Celerity. Yesterday's press conference was a disaster for him, and

I suspect approval based on that would not be particularly flattering for him, especially since the FDA, press, and people on the front line contradicted quite a lot of things he was puffing up

The census is a very important issue, and I am very worried about that also

[Celerity]

32. +1

[hlthe2b]

2. exactly... Trump is controlling the messaging, despite experts countering him 24/7

People take the 10-second sound byte to heart and don't question.

[still_one]

3. First, his approval has been dropping. Second, people at this moment are not interested in

political ads, but how to address the problem, and Biden has been talking about this


https://news.gallup.com/poll/296060/trump-job-approval-rating-slips.aspx

[dem4decades]

5. It just went up to 55% on handling the crisis. We're fucked, America is the dumbest country in the

universe.

[still_one]

8. Link please?

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[ucrdem]

12. Politico: Majority of Americans now approve of Trump's coronavirus management

A majority of Americans now approve of President Donald Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, according to a new survey, as the administration has issued stricter federal guidelines in recent days and the president has adopted a more public-facing role in combating the disease.

An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday reports that 55 percent of respondents approve of Trump's management of the public health crisis, while 43 percent disapprove. The latest figures represent a boost in the president's rating from the previous iteration of the survey, published one week ago, which showed only 43 percent approval for Trump and 54 percent disapproval.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/20/poll-majority-of-americans-now-approve-of-trumps-coronavirus-management-138570

[still_one]

23. Thanks. I think it means little. Approval is not an accurate measure. Let's do a poll after

the disaster of a press conference he gave yesterday.

A week ago his approval was down, because he wasn't taken it seriously in the press conference. A week later he took a more serious appearance, his approval goes up

Yesterday, he said one thing and was contradicted by the FDA, press, and the people on the front line.

Approval is a day by day measure in my view

[ucrdem]

28. He took a page from the Biden playbook and it worked.

Whether it holds up is a good question. Seems unlikely but we need to focus on the general I think and get the primary over with. There probably won't be a convention to speak of anyway so let's just start.

[Demsrule86]

39. My husband, son and daughter are all about to lose their jobs...the big three are going down...

This will be bad for Trump...and we could use right now if a certain Senator would end his campaign today. Here is the thing regardless of the cash payments , people are going to starve. The hourly at my husbands job who still show up for work everyday do not have a cushion...food banks are shut down. I don't think people understand that literally people will die of starvation or starvation related illnesses right now. Welcome to the second Great Depression...God help us.

[Celerity]

26. 'The latest reading is from Gallup's March 2-13 poll'

well before his mini surge in that ABC poll. Some those responses were collected as much as 18 days ago.

[Ohiogal]

6. Exactly

All we’ve seen on the msm is Chump’s ugly mug spewing lies day after day

Where is Biden, Pelosi, Schumer?? Obama?? Bloomberg ads?

[Demsrule86]

40. Biden can't act do much until Sanders concedes...and the president always has the bully pulpit.

[ucrdem]

7. He's rebranded himself as FDR

and giving long friendly press conferences where he only snarls at a few reporters. He's as clueless as ever but he's playing a fresh angle. I heard one yesterday.

[BidenBacker]

43. Trump as FDR...that's rich

If that incompetent SOB had been POTUS when Pearl Harbor happened he wouldn't have lifted a finger until the Japanese were in Denver and the Germans were in Pittsburgh.

[ucrdem]

44. Yeah he's having a little trouble pulling it off.

Like he keeps melting down and insulting his own experts, not to mention the reporters.

I think we've seen the end of the fireside chats for a while.

[BidenBacker]

45. I've had the TV on during these new morning bullshit sessions of his

but I pretty much just tune them out and play games or read posts while he's lying his ass off.

Pretty sure FDR woulda had my full attention back then, even if it was only over the radio.

[rzemanfl]

51. He tries, but his tiny hands slip off his tiny mushroom.

[Arkansas Granny]

9. I don't see that at RCP consolidated polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

[still_one]

11. That is why I would like to see a link that the OP is referring to. Approval ratings are also a

very inaccurate measure, since they can mean different things to different people

[dem4decades]

14. https://www.washingtonpost.com/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/20/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-TGY5G4GOYVFNTKCUX23JVP6S74

[still_one]

19. Thanks. Approval is a very volatile measue. Wonder what it iws after yesterday's disaster of a

press conference

[dem4decades]

31. They are doing TV, they sound authoritative but they're blowing smoke.

Hopefully the facts will come out and sink the piece of shit.

[Jarqui]

10. When a lot of folks start dying, his approval is going to change. nt

[ucrdem]

16. Good point.

The evidence is out there that he played down warnings for weeks.

[Vogon_Glory]

30. I hate to sound grim, but I agree

We’re still early in this crisis; I fear there is worse coming. As the multiple impacts of Orange Julius’ Insane Clown Posse’s multiple bad decisions come to pass, his approval rating is going to drop some more.

[Jarqui]

42. When people die, survivors ask questions

Of themselves, of others, of the circumstances asking "was there anything I could have done?" or "why did this have to happen?" etc

A bunch of the Trump deadheads will conclude it was punishment for their sins or maybe weird stuff you might imagine ignorant people could come up with. But some of them will find the truth. With quarantine and no jobs, these folks are going to have a lot of time on their hands to find out the truth of why their little girl's lungs are scared for life and why their doctor got sick with no protective equipment and the vaccine's Trump promoted to address this 'hoax' haven't appeared.

"If South Korea and the US had their first test case show up on the same day, why did the US lag so far behind the testing - which allowed it to spread more uncontrolled?"

The one thing that has held it together for Trump was the economy. I think we are headed for a much worse place than the great recession Obama faced. People are going to be miserable or worse and for a number of them, the buck will stop with Trump.

If Trump's approval drops from 43% to 38%, battleground states will be real hard to win.

His approval may rise beyond 43% short term, but when reality sets in, it won't stay there.

I think it will get worse for Trump than that. And when it starts to happen, some of the rats will abandon ship.

Trump will not hold an election, will throw a wrench in it or challenge it legally. He won't go quietly. So his fall in approval will only get us so far.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. It's a Crisis Bounce, the Incompetence remains and will endure

Don't be alarmed by this, Americans always rally around a president in a crisis. Makes them feel safe.

[videohead5]

15. Rasmussen

A republican poll only has Trump's approval rating at 47%. Has anyone looked at the internals of the poll?

[Blue_true]

58. Say no more. You had me at "Rasmussen". nt

[Baitball Blogger]

18. I don't believe these polls any more.

[ucrdem]

20. This is one reason we need to get on with the general

and declare the primaries over. We really need to get on with it.

[LanternWaste]

21. We've been awake, fella. But spot trends can't overshadow his abject failure of a response

nor can it resupply the one-third volume lost by the Dow. Nor can it recast his calling this a hoax two weeks ago.

This is called a Crisis Bounce. It's expected. May even last into next week... but he'll dip again.

Democrats are running ads about this.

What's with the 'mass hysteria?'

[videohead5]

22. Wait for more than one poll

This is one poll and I bet it oversampled Republicans.

[Prosper]

25. Trump mumbles amd spews hunches and feelings and has logic of an earthworm and yet he is not being

booed off the stage. He is a very dangerous character that only has himself for concern. Impossible to believe but believe it, he is a formidable challenger.

[ucrdem]

27. It is hard to believe if you listen for more than ten seconds.

But the five-second sound bytes are friendly and warm. And he repeats them several times in case anyone misses them the first ten times.

[mucifer]

33. It's a form of hypnosis. It really is. Deplorables fall for it every time.

[ucrdem]

36. Trump got his war, but Joe got his economic nosedive.

I think Trump will get flattened and Joe is going to have a long, long row to hoe in January 2021.

[PubliusEnigma]

34. It's over. Bernie got his ass handed to him. Let it go.

[monmouth4]

35. He's throwing money at us, approval goes up...n/t

[BidenBacker]

47. Has anybody here received a dime yet?

Until then, I just want Trump to STFU and

[BidenBacker]

37. I can see the headlines and bylines now after the fed's bailout floodgates open up soon...

GOP Unleashes Tidal Wave of Socialism to Save Capitalism

Tea Party, Wall Street Journal & FOX News Applaud Trump's Command Economy - Attack Anti-Marxist Free-Market Democrats

Strange new world we live in.

[Demsrule86]

38. His numbers are not going up and Biden can't campaign until Sanders gets the fuck out.

[BidenBacker]

41. Just occurred to me

We have empty schools, empty restaurants, empty theaters, empty auto factories, empty stores, empty casinos, empty bars, empty airliners and empty shelves.

Kinda seems appropriate since we have an empty suit for a POTUS.

[William769]

46. Well maybe if Sanders dropped out of the race Biden Could focus on trump.

Since he hasn't dropped out of the race, why aren't you asking Sanders to do the same thing?

You can't have your cake & eat it too.

[BidenBacker]

48. Yo, Trump!

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Since you've probably been way too busy totally fucking up this coronavirus thingy you ignored for so long you've likely not had much time to follow the stock market lately. So I thought I'd give you a real quick update just to let you know where you stand so you can see what an awesome job you're doing for everybody's 401Ks, since you used to remind everybody every day ad nauseam not very long ago before this Democratic hoax showed up at our doorstep.

When Obama illegally entered the White House (him not even being an American, after all) on Jan 20, 2009 the DJIA closed at 7949 that afternoon. The day you mercifully took the reins from the Worst President Ever the DJIA opened up at 19795. Let's do some real quick math, okay bud?

Jan 20, 2009 - 7949
Jan 20, 2017 - 19795

A 149% increase in 8 years, or an average of 18.6% return per year. Not too shabby, especially considering ol' Barack took over when Dubya's economy was in a total freefall and we were hemorrhaging about 700,000 jobs each and every month. Dubya says he got an MBA from Yale but he sure didn't know too much about economics. Anyway, I digress.

Today the DJIA just closed at 19174, so let's get the calculator out again.

Jan 20, 2017 - 19795
Mar 20, 2020 - 19174

Oops, that's a 3% drop from when you took over. Hooboy, I'll bet Obama beating you at the stock market and beating you BADLY really sticks in yer craw, don't it Donnie? You being a very stable genius and all, financial and otherwise.

But cheer up, Mr President. This 3% loss will probably look real good compared to where it's gonna be by the time that senile Sleepy Joe Biden boots you outta the Oval Office. Maybe you should tell all your wonderful charming kids to buy a lot of put options, huh? Or have they already? Wouldn't put it past 'em...they say the rotten apples don't fall too far from the tree. Good luck, Mr President...and God help the rest of us. Because you sure as hell won't.

[ooky]

49. I don't believe this. Sorry, this is one of those things that, if it doesn't make

sense, it's probably not true. This has to be fake. It's a lie. Gallup published a poll the other day showing his approval had gone down to 44%. The stock market down 30+% and nobody can breath the air. 2 million new unemployment claims.

Job approvals don't suddenly shoot up under such circumstances. They just don't.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/903066/trumps-approval-rating-dips-amid-coronavirus-crisis

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[Codeine]

50. All the Sanders people so eager to give Biden advice.

You should focus on getting the Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man to realize he’s been summarily defeated and needs to behave as such.

[DarthDem]

52. If a poll looks stupid, it usually is

There's no chance that people think favorably of what's happening.

Not only that, but Biden has just announced that he will be doing "shadow" briefings each day pointing out the flaws in Mr. Trump's approach. So there goes the idea that he hasn't been around since Tuesday, or can't campaign, or whatever.

[VMA131Marine]

53. It's one poll ...NPR-Marist has him underwater at 44-49

Over essentially the same period of time and has a larger sample.
The margin of error on the poll that has him at 55% approve is +/-5%

It’s possible that people are also responding to the proposals for direct payments to help the offset the decline in the economy. If so, those approval gains will be short-lived beyond the last check, especially if the economy is still in the tank.

[emmaverybo]

54. He just held a presser Coronavirus briefing today. And he has been hitting the prez on his

handling. Homework is essential.

[Loki Liesmith]

55. This is not great for Trump

It’s normal and his overall approval didn’t change much. Usually that goes up significantly during a crisis.

[John Fante]

56. Most likely an outlier.

Gump's overall rating on 538 is at a predictably mediocre 43%

[rockfordfile]

57. When it comes time Americans will vote trump out. Be-careful of propaganda

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Trump's numbers aren't really doing anything