Bernie campaign slams Warren as candidate of the elite - BS Always Goes Negative

[TomCADem]

I see a lot of threads that seem to buy into this BS talking point that BS may continue to campaign because he wants to promote his issues. We heard this talking point before. It is based on this idea that BS is running a campaign based on the issues.

Yet, what have actually seen? BS and his surrogates repeatedly attack the "establishment" and push this false equivalency between Democrats and the Republicans. Bernie's MO is to attack the character of his opponents. There is no question. BS is going to stay in race and do his best to undermine Democratic chances in the general election while pretending that his campaign is based on the issues. Even in the midst of catastrophe, his campaign will side with Trump against Democrats:

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E780590640438603777&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F%3Fcom%3Dview_post%26forum%3D1287%26pid%3D674754

As Bernie Surrogate Susan Sarandon, explained by worsening the results under Trump, this will help plant the seeds for a revolution: "Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, if he gets in. Then things will really, you know, explode," Sarandon said, referring to the political "revolution" Sanders preaches about on the trail.

Don't fall for BS's supposed struggle as to whether he will remain in the race. He will and he is just pretending to struggle so that he can be the center of attention. In the end, BS is going to stay in, and do his best to hurt our chances of winning the Presidency and taking back Congress, because if Democrats win, the people might actually be happy with a competent government.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/11/bernie-quietly-goes-negative-on-warren-097594

DES MOINES, Iowa — The nonaggression pact between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is seriously fraying.

Sanders’ campaign has begun stealthily attacking Warren as a candidate of the upper crust who could not expand the Democratic base in a general election, according to talking points his campaign is using to sway voters and obtained by POLITICO.

The script instructs Sanders volunteers to tell voters leaning toward the Massachusetts senator that the “people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what” and that “she's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.”

“I like Elizabeth Warren. [optional]” the script begins. “In fact, she’s my second choice. But here’s my concern about her.” It then pivots to the criticisms of Warren.

[wyldwolf]

1. What a clown.

[bluedye33139]

2. She seems nice.

[NurseJackie]

3. Haaaaaa!

[Sloumeau]

11. ROFL

[MontanaMama]

4. Well Briahna. Dems pushed the Russia did the hacking because

THEY ACTUALLY DID THE HACKING. She is really an obnoxious surrogate as are most of those who speak for him.

[evertonfc]

5. Bernie dosent have a campaign

He's had his ass kicked across America. His surrogate are one reason. They are very unsavory characters. As someone who supported him in 2016- he's an afterthought anymore

[TomCADem]

6. It Is Not Just His Surrogates. BS Picked Them. They Are a Reflection of Him

You can't make this up. BS attracts and hires people who trash the Democratic party, because he himself believes that there is no difference between the parties, and he actively promotes this idea:

Link to tweet

[thesquanderer]

10. re: "BS attracts and hires people who trash the Democratic party"

and "They Are a Reflection of Him'

I haven't like his hires either. But there was conflict within the campaign about this kind of stuff, well described at

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/how-it-all-came-apart-for-bernie-sanders/ar-BB11uW8I?ocid=msedgdhp

Though honestly, at this point, I don't see any benefit of posting negative stuff from January as you did here, especially paired with a deceptive headline that implies this is something new. Sanders is not going to be our nominee. Why continue to bash him? Do you think this is going to change anyone's mind about Sanders at this point? Don't post like this more likely just continue to turn off Sanders supporters who we want to become our allies?

[TomCADem]

14. The Article You Link Is Not Accurate, It Is Just Propaganda About BS

Lets not repeat past mistakes thinking that Bernie is really going through some soul searching at the moment or that he will really put the interests of the people above his own. He will not, because he thinks that his interests and the pursuit of his own personal political aspirations serve the people even to the extent that it causes them harm.

Lets make no mistake that Bernie's continued campaign and his negative attacks on Biden are going to harm the people. That is why we cannot ignore what is motivating Bernie. Yet, you still see a lot of will he or won't he posts. Bernie himself likes tease with a 24/7 drama of whether or not he will drop out.

There is no conflict in Bernie's campaign. That is class BS pushing this fantasy that BS does not go negative and that he focuses on the issues. That is why I posted the story in the OP, because it demonstrates that BS has gone negative. There is no internal debate in the BS camp regarding what they are going to do. They have already gone scorched earth, and they will continue to do so.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-attacks-biden-media-super-tuesday-losses-2020-3

Bernie Sanders goes into attack mode, skewering Joe Biden and the media after a string of crushing defeats on Super Tuesday

Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont went on the attack Wednesday following a string of disappointing losses in the Super Tuesday Democratic presidential elections.

He kicked things off at a press conference by skewering the "corporate media," which he accused of adopting an adversarial stance against his campaign.

Sanders said he had dealt with "venom" from some in the media, mentioning that his campaign had been compared to the novel coronavirus as well as the Nazi occupation of France during World War II.

"As we come into the last several months of this campaign, what I hope very much is that what we can focus on is an issue-oriented campaign which deals with the concerns of the American people," he said.

[thesquanderer]

18. re: "The Article You Link Is Not Accurate, It Is Just Propaganda About BS"

Some sites and columnists definitely have that bias, and I try to be cognizant of that. But this one is a "real article" from the NY Times, so I don't know why you would think it is propaganda, other than that your own biases lead you to not want to believe it...?

Here's the actual NYT link, if you prefer:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democrats-2020.html

[BlueMTexpat]

22. This indeed! eom

[Cha]

24. Thank you!

StaySafe, evertonfc

[apcalc]

7. Isn't that his goal? That has always been his goal, imo.

Attack Democrats from the left... stay in, cause dissension...enough so that ppl won’t vote for the Dem.

He has every opportunity to me wrong. Let’s see.

Wanna bet ?

[TomCADem]

8. BS and Supporters Seek to Sharpen the Contradictions per Karl Marx

The American people are seeking competence and rule of law under Biden. Nonetheless, expect BS surrogates like Cornell West and Susan Sarandon to double down in calling for an end to the Democratic party as an obstacle to revolution. Afterall, if the lives of Americans improve under Joe Biden, they may not desire the radical revolution that Bernie is hoping to sell.

Instead, if BS cannot seize power, then as Susan Sarandon explained the silver lining is that the chaos of a Trump presidency might help undermine the status quo.

https://www.beaconjournal.com/akron/editorial/cass-r-sunstein-trump-disrupts-so-did-marx

CAMBRIDGE, MASS.: Karl Marx and his followers argued that revolutionaries should disrupt capitalist societies by “heightening the contradictions.” Russia used a version of that Marxist idea in its efforts to disrupt the 2016 presidential campaign. It should come as no surprise that the most powerful nation from the former Soviet Union, whose leaders were schooled in the Marxist tradition, is borrowing directly from that tradition in its efforts today.

What is more surprising, and far more important for American politics, is that President Donald Trump is drawn to a similar strategy.

Marx contended that as the conditions of workers started to improve, they would cease to be content with their lot, or to regard their alienation as inevitable. Lenin seized on this idea and transformed it into a revolutionary strategy.

Lenin urged that as capitalism developed, workers would see, or could be made to see, the contradictions between the official story of universal freedom and their actual inability to have real control over their own lives. The job of the communist revolutionary was to “heighten” or “accelerate” those contradictions.

[apcalc]

23. Very good. Thank you.

[eilen]

9. Grievance politics

so boring and scowling loses elections.

One of the reasons we were attracted to Obama's campaign was his positive messaging-- and it won x2.

I think because his campaign appealed to our better natures. He also smiled a lot.

[MineralMan]

12. Yes. One of the first alarming signals from the Sanders campaign,

was his hiring of non-Democrats to fill major roles on his staff. And by non-Democrats, I mean advocates of some sort of "revolutionary" change. His staffers' rhetoric was divisive from the very beginning of the campaign, and prior to it, even.

Fortunately, Democratic voters understood and voted for Biden, once he had shown that he could win a state with a serious margin. Once that happened, a number of other moderate candidates dropped out and endorsed Joe. Then, the voters responded in an unmistakable way in the ensuing primaries.

Now, as the primary season continues, Sanders has an opportunity to lead his supporters to support Biden. If he will do that, victory in November is certain. If he will not, it is less certain.

His staff, however, will continue follow its "revolutionary" path. More's the pity.

[TomCADem]

17. Here is David Sirota Today Using Pandemic To Attack Bernie's Critics

You can't make this up. Here is Bernie's Senior Advisor, David Sirota, using the COVID-19 pandemic to attack critics of Bernie Sanders saying, "12 days ago, as a lethal pandemic enveloped the planet, the “raging controversy” dominating American politics and political media was about whether or not some tweets and emojis were too mean." In so doing, he also takes a thinly veiled shot at complaints about Bernie supporters using snake emojis to refer to Elizabeth Warren:

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[MineralMan]

19. Ugh!

[Ztolkins]

13. This is from January.

[Wellstone ruled]

15. Sanders needs to get his crap together and

join in with Biden and set up a shadow Democratic Administration with people who can hit the ground running after January 1st. He sure as hell is not bettering his case,only digging himself a deeper hole.

[C Moon]

16. He's grasping at straws now. He knows she's not going to back him,

so he's lashing out like a rabid animal.
Remember when his camp said Sanders would consider Warren for the VP spot.
What changed?

[Thekaspervote]

20. I can't even put into words how I feel about that guy!!

What a total waste

[Gothmog]

21. Sirota is too toxic to travel with the sanders

Link to tweet

[Cha]

25. All they have is name calling like this.

[ms liberty]

26. And Sen Warren dropped out of the race after Super Tuesday.

Why repeating old news?