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The Top 10 women Joe Biden might pick as VP (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
My top pick doesn't make the list. I'm encouraged. WheelWalker Mar 2020 #1
Who is your top pick? caraher Mar 2020 #6
Susan Rice WheelWalker Mar 2020 #7
My first pick too. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #9
Good one caraher Mar 2020 #12
Do you have any indication she would accept the nomination? CTyankee Mar 2020 #13
I have no such indications, one way or the other, about anyone. WheelWalker Mar 2020 #14
I'll bet he's thought of her and well he should. And I'll bet he's in contact with her. CTyankee Mar 2020 #15
I'll bet you are correct. IMO she is a soldier. She, like Biden, will heed the call to service. WheelWalker Mar 2020 #16
Now you've got me hopeful! CTyankee Mar 2020 #17
Has she ever run for office? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #21
Have no idea. Not sure that matters under the circumstances. Current Oval occupant hadn't IIRC. WheelWalker Mar 2020 #23
Can she help flip a swing state? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #27
There are two prime criteria for a POTUS/VPOTUS... WheelWalker Mar 2020 #32
:) Agree, but Biden's on #2 Version 2.0: Hortensis Mar 2020 #42
You and I are on the same page. My feelings as well. Rice is well positioned WheelWalker Mar 2020 #43
Agree. Rice would be a redoubtable choice. Hortensis Mar 2020 #44
Would like to keep #10 right here in N.M.! ALBliberal Mar 2020 #2
Interesting. Not sure about #7 or 2, and we can't afford to lose Warren's seat, so FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #3
Warren and Harris were made totally aware of the abuse charges being levied against Joe tirebiter Mar 2020 #4
Warren should first endorse him question everything Mar 2020 #5
Biden will finish his term! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #22
LOL, you realize Biden HAS TO pick a VP correct? Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #25
Yes he does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #28
Then why not discuss VPs? Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #29
I have no problem discussing VP choices Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #31
8 presidents out of 44 have died in office, so valid topic. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #33
No it's a GOP talking point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #34
Trump is only 3 years younger, so not an issue! Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #35
Then it is not a valid discussion. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #36
Yes, discussing VP is a valid topic! Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #37
Never said that discussing a VP wasn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #38
Do you really think that Biden does not consider this possibility? question everything Mar 2020 #40
No it's repeating a GOP talking point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #45
That's an awesome list. Val Demings would be great too. Bleacher Creature Mar 2020 #8
I hope none of the women.... quickesst Mar 2020 #10
This! Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #11
Thanks Skya! quickesst Mar 2020 #20
Good post Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #30
Exactly quickesst Mar 2020 #39
Another good analysis Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #46
***** quickesst Mar 2020 #48
Is there any favorite son/daughter feeling any more? treestar Mar 2020 #49
They might Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #52
Any swing state poll from such a state treestar Mar 2020 #53
It all depends on the polls Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #54
"Analysis by Chris Cillizza" is not something I'd put much stock in. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2020 #18
:) Zero stock in. He's a dishonest cileaze. This is not a credible list, Hortensis Mar 2020 #41
Aw Jeez! Chris the Lizard Composed This List? Rube Icon Mar 2020 #47
Move Stacey up to three and that's my top 3... SKKY Mar 2020 #19
Hopefully in that order. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #24
He will pick someone he's confident is ready, and he genuinely likes bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #26
As long as it's not Klobuchar n/t kcr Mar 2020 #50
I imagine KATHLEEN SEBELIUS is at the very top of Biden's VP list. underthematrix Mar 2020 #51
 

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
1. My top pick doesn't make the list. I'm encouraged.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

caraher

(6,278 posts)
6. Who is your top pick?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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caraher

(6,278 posts)
12. Good one
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 01:50 AM
Mar 2020

I'm still leaning Harris but Rice would be a fine choice

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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
13. Do you have any indication she would accept the nomination?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:21 AM
Mar 2020

I think she would be great, but perhaps she doesn't want to go back into public life. But she would be wonderful, along the side of Joe Biden, whom I trust she would want the job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
14. I have no such indications, one way or the other, about anyone.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:46 AM
Mar 2020

If I were Joe Biden, I'd think seriously about making an offer. But then, I'm me... not Joe.

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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
15. I'll bet he's thought of her and well he should. And I'll bet he's in contact with her.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:52 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
16. I'll bet you are correct. IMO she is a soldier. She, like Biden, will heed the call to service.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:58 AM
Mar 2020

It is time to stand and be counted. I believe she would recognize the dangers we face and would understand duty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
17. Now you've got me hopeful!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:04 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
21. Has she ever run for office?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
23. Have no idea. Not sure that matters under the circumstances. Current Oval occupant hadn't IIRC.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:29 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
27. Can she help flip a swing state?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:06 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
32. There are two prime criteria for a POTUS/VPOTUS...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:14 AM
Mar 2020

1. Can he/she be campaign and be elected
2. Can he/she step right in and govern

Those are my criteria anyway.

Rice has said that her parents taught her to "never use race as an excuse or advantage", and as a young girl she "dreamed of becoming the first U.S. senator from the District of Columbia"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. :) Agree, but Biden's on #2 Version 2.0:
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

To choose for an assistant president and friend, capable of handling a big, important portfolio. The role he filled for President Obama.

This isn't the same as "can he/she step right in and govern" -- traditionally "right in" only after succeeding to the presidency. Biden wants his VP to actually step right in and "govern" with him under his authority, again as he did as Obama's workmate.

Unlike the thinking of many posters, I'd move political campaign considerations down in priority. Not that they aren't important, but Biden is well known and liked nationally, and is probably as reassuring to potential conservative-leaning swing voters as any Democrat could be. It very quickly becomes 90% about the presidential candidate and HIS or HER coattails anyway, and in order to get a great assistant president I'm guessing he could choose a running mate who satisfied the political considerations of getting elected relatively weakly.

Electing our first woman VP (Democrat of course!) will be a very significant step forward in itself. What I can imagine is Biden naming some of his cabinet appointees fairly early in the GE, and those would also be used to meet expectations of moving people from various groups and geographic locations into power.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
43. You and I are on the same page. My feelings as well. Rice is well positioned
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:08 PM
Mar 2020

for the role of "Assistant President", having worked with Biden in the Obama administration. There is a high probability of "simpatico" as Biden put it. She brings a strong foreign policy portfolio to the VPOTUS rank which is vital given the devastation wrought to the global order by Trump, Putin and the rise of international 'strong men". I don't see being a political novice as a weakness for Rice, particularly as Biden is long in the elective/political/legislative suits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Agree. Rice would be a redoubtable choice.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020

I've liked Warren in the role, not least because Biden himself reportedly did in 2015, but in spite of an energy and passion that would complement him very well, she's practically his age, and etc., etc., etc.

I've always imagined Warren as a Frances Perkins type and would love to see what she'd do domestically with a powerful cabinet mandate, Treasury being the one speculated about most. I have no doubt that she fully intends to endorse Biden, but as in 2016 after talks about some things she wants.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
2. Would like to keep #10 right here in N.M.!
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
3. Interesting. Not sure about #7 or 2, and we can't afford to lose Warren's seat, so
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

that narrows it down in my mind.

It's worth clicking the link to read the brief bios and some notes on why these might be better or worse choices for VP

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tirebiter

(2,535 posts)
4. Warren and Harris were made totally aware of the abuse charges being levied against Joe
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

The fact they’ve both said nothing is a very loud silence in his favor. Harris the AG who called Biden on stances from 59 years ago, and Warren who called ally Bernie on his lies, neither would give slack on anything that sounded valid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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question everything

(47,465 posts)
5. Warren should first endorse him
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:49 PM
Mar 2020

And both Warren and Harris attacked him during the campaign. Neither has apologized, as far as I know.

His running mate should be in a lockstep with him. If he cannot finish his term, the V.P. should be able to take where he left off, not trying to implement her own ideas.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
22. Biden will finish his term!
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:23 AM
Mar 2020

Saying otherwise is a GOP talking point and only helps Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
25. LOL, you realize Biden HAS TO pick a VP correct? Nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
28. Yes he does
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:07 AM
Mar 2020

because he is required to by the constitution.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
29. Then why not discuss VPs? Nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:09 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
31. I have no problem discussing VP choices
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:12 AM
Mar 2020

I do have a problem with some parroting a GOP talking point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
33. 8 presidents out of 44 have died in office, so valid topic. Nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:17 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
34. No it's a GOP talking point
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:20 AM
Mar 2020

and will only help Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
35. Trump is only 3 years younger, so not an issue! Nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
36. Then it is not a valid discussion.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
37. Yes, discussing VP is a valid topic! Nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
38. Never said that discussing a VP wasn't
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

so please don’t dishonestly put words in my mouth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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question everything

(47,465 posts)
40. Do you really think that Biden does not consider this possibility?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

Yes, it is nice to behave like a child saying but I don't want to.. but for mature adults ignoring this possibility shows such irresponsible behavior that it could disqualify a candidate.

It was Bill Clinton, a young 46 year old a jogger but with lousy eating habits, who said that selecting a running mate was like selecting Hillary's next husband..

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
45. No it's repeating a GOP talking point
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020

that will only help Trump.

And I’m Biden will consider many factors privately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
8. That's an awesome list. Val Demings would be great too.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:12 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
10. I hope none of the women....
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:22 AM
Mar 2020

.... who participated in the primaries are chosen. Plenty of reasons why. At this point in time, my choices are Val Demings, or Ayanna Presley. Both have a commanding presence.
I don't understand the fascination people have with Kamala Harris. She barely achieved 5% support from black people during her entire campaign, not to mention unsuccessfully trying to throw Joe Biden under the bus a couple of times. She would be a detriment to his campaign. That's my opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
30. Good post
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:11 AM
Mar 2020

It should also be pointed out all 3 of the former primary opponents come from solid blue states and won’t help flip any swing states.

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quickesst

(6,280 posts)
39. Exactly
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:52 PM
Mar 2020

Here are three reasons why I believe my assessment is correct.

1. There are some candidates who I believe will bring little or nothing to his campaign. ( the three you mentioned being among them.)
2. There are several candidates that would better serve the country, and themselves by staying in the positions they now hold. ( Several of these could fit into my first reason.)
3. There are several candidates who would be ideal choices for key positions in a Biden Administration.

The fascination many here at Democratic Underground have with one particular candidate is especially perplexing, but should probably be discussed in a different setting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
46. Another good analysis
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:46 PM
Mar 2020

I think the fascination by for a certain candidate is because they supported that candidate for the nomination and now want that candidate for #2. They need to let go and objectively consider what is the best ticket to beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
48. *****
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

"They need to let go and objectively consider what is the best ticket to beat Trump."

Bingo!!

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
49. Is there any favorite son/daughter feeling any more?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:04 PM
Mar 2020

Do people vote for someone from their state out of state pride?

I am thinking not as there are plenty of red states where they would still not vote for the ticket because the VP would be from their state. They just insult that person too.

Biden and Palin were picked for VP though they were each from 3 EV states and from the dominant party of said states.

Swing states might be different; would picking someone from OH or PA help with winning the states?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
52. They might
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:19 AM
Mar 2020

They do these things called polls to determine that.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. Any swing state poll from such a state
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:29 AM
Mar 2020

ever show such a thing? But most of the candidates on Biden's list seem to be from blue states anyway. Is there any of them you can argue we need that candidate to win that state?

He'd need one from Michigan, OH or PA or FL.

Someone mentioned Val Demings, a congresswoman from FL. Would FL be more likely to vote blue if she were on the ticket as VP?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
54. It all depends on the polls
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

I'm sure the Biden campaign and/or the DNC is doing polling to determine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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thesquanderer

(11,983 posts)
18. "Analysis by Chris Cillizza" is not something I'd put much stock in. (n/t)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:55 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. :) Zero stock in. He's a dishonest cileaze. This is not a credible list,
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

just something he threw together to fill his hole in the paper.

Just for instance, I'm from Georgia and I voted very happily for ex- state assembly rep Abrams for governor, but no way does she belong on a list of people who could conceivably become president a month after being sworn in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Rube Icon

(78 posts)
47. Aw Jeez! Chris the Lizard Composed This List?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

P-yuke! I reiterate:

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SKKY

(11,803 posts)
19. Move Stacey up to three and that's my top 3...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:13 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
24. Hopefully in that order.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:33 AM
Mar 2020

Biden/Harris is the winning ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
26. He will pick someone he's confident is ready, and he genuinely likes
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:57 AM
Mar 2020

I think it will be one of the top 4, and I doubt number 3.

We all have opinions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kcr

(15,315 posts)
50. As long as it's not Klobuchar n/t
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
51. I imagine KATHLEEN SEBELIUS is at the very top of Biden's VP list.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:13 AM
Mar 2020

Former Gov of KANSAS.

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