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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:21 AM Feb 2019

I just switched from Kamala to undecided

The following factors contributed to my decision:

1) Bernie Sanders' call for his supporters to take it easy and be nice to democratic opponents.
2) Bernie's record-breaking fundraising drive, which could make him more electable against Trump.
3) Bernie Sanders' boldness with comments such as this one:




My positive opinion of Kamala has not changed.

This may not be my last switch however.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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I just switched from Kamala to undecided (Original Post) Yosemito Feb 2019 OP
Hope everyone watched Eliz Warner on ALL IN last night. I am undecided but she sure riversedge Feb 2019 #1
If EW were a man she would be out-performing Bernie in cash and volunteers. allgood33 Feb 2019 #2
No, if she had run in 2016 she would likely be out-performing Bernie in cash and volunteers Kentonio Feb 2019 #3
Agreed. Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #5
Indeed. Kentonio Feb 2019 #6
Good for you!! Join the revolution... there's always room for one more!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #4
Leave out the Bern, please katmondoo Feb 2019 #16
There are a lot of good candidates. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #7
I Agree.... sacto95834 Feb 2019 #9
Good thumbnail impressions, thanks. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2019 #22
Ojeda (Trump voter) did drop out emulatorloo Feb 2019 #30
But... betsuni Feb 2019 #8
uh huh obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #10
Probably won't vote for Bernie in a primary pecosbob Feb 2019 #11
I like almost all of them and can vote for all of them. I'm waiting until primary season ... marble falls Feb 2019 #12
Agreed. Nt lostnfound Feb 2019 #15
I'm devastated. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #13
it's weird because the last post of yours had a Bernie spokesman trashing Hillary supporters bigtree Feb 2019 #14
Haha. Good powers of observation lostnfound Feb 2019 #17
Lots of that "inconsistency" from this poster. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #18
Please keep us updated as you keep changing your mind. honest.abe Feb 2019 #20
O K then DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #21
If Bernie Sanders wins the primary , get ready for 4 more years of Trump. octoberlib Feb 2019 #23
Why do you think Bernie couldn't beat Trump? Mr. Smith Feb 2019 #24
Though I disagree on 4 more years of Trump JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #26
Well, one needs to actually win the majority of Democratic votes to be the nominee ehrnst Feb 2019 #28
... mcar Feb 2019 #29
Russia, and most Repubs, didn't unleash anything against Sanders in 2016. charlyvi Feb 2019 #31
I just don't get how people assume that the reason dirt wasn't thrown at Sanders Empowerer Feb 2019 #32
Bern's call for "civility" is only three years late Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #25
Wait a minute... So Sanders is saying a rigged election is better than no election? Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #27
 

riversedge

(71,227 posts)
1. Hope everyone watched Eliz Warner on ALL IN last night. I am undecided but she sure
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:25 AM
Feb 2019

has great policies, and passion. Just saying. --it was a great interview.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
2. If EW were a man she would be out-performing Bernie in cash and volunteers.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:39 AM
Feb 2019

Her passion and ideas and proposals are much more in the intersts of the country and more inclusive than Bernies. She gets it and knows how to treat people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
3. No, if she had run in 2016 she would likely be out-performing Bernie in cash and volunteers
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:42 AM
Feb 2019

Sitting back and watching as another economic equality progressive built a national organization is why she has a mountain to climb now, not because she's a woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
5. Agreed.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:48 AM
Feb 2019

Not picking a horse in that fight till the end made her virtually irrelevant in the national scene in a lot of peoples' minds. That doesn't take away her authenticity however, and the capacity she has to make real change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
6. Indeed.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:56 AM
Feb 2019

I think she's a wonderful leader and fighter for progress, and I'm proud we have her in the party. If anything caused Bernie to drop out, she'd definitely be my second choice.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,315 posts)
4. Good for you!! Join the revolution... there's always room for one more!!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:46 AM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!
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katmondoo

(6,477 posts)
16. Leave out the Bern, please
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:10 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(13,917 posts)
7. There are a lot of good candidates.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:06 AM
Feb 2019

Bernie is a small donar fundraising monster, and that is a huge plus, but I’m waiting for Warren and Harris and maybe even Klobuchar to get their campaigns fully operational. It is great to have so many good choices.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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sacto95834

(393 posts)
9. I Agree....
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:03 AM
Feb 2019

Too early to pick one candidate. While I supported Bernie in the 2016 primary and HRC in the general, I want to hear from all the candidates. I so wish we could take the best of each and mold them into one. From what I've seen and learned, all great people.

Kamala - razor sharp mind. Think she will do well in debates. My current senator. I supported her for AG and then in her senate run.

Cory - Such charm and probably the most polished speaker of the bunch. He also has a great life narrative.

Elizabeth - When she does interviews, she is so in the zone. Very empathetic and facts just come so easily to her. Town Halls is where I think she'll shine.

Bernie - Commitment to the Revolution. Compassion and belief in his platform for economic justice. I think people like his unpolished demeanor, very easy to relate to. And nobody draws in the millennials like Bernie. He will need to expand his focus to round out his appeal.

Amy - From the little I've seen of her, she is very mid-western nice and honest. I don't really care for her platform but there is a quiet honesty about her that is just there under everything she says.

Tulsi - Life experiences have molded her into the person she is and she is a fantastic person today. From my home state, she exudes honesty and the spirit of Aloha - a wholehearted welcome and let's get to know each other. Don't know if that will translate to non-Hawaii people. I think she is the most open minded of the candidates, meaning she has her core principals, but willing to hear other ideas and perhaps adopt them if they are better. This is just a feeling I get from her, one local to another.

Richard (Ojeda) - Wow. Not sure he's even still in the race. But I like his brashness and combative spirit. I take it he doesn't suffer fools lightly. Glad he's on our team. I would love to see him take on Trump. I'd pay money for that. They should make him DNC chair or spokesman.

Julian - Haven't seen him since the Democratic Convention all those years ago. I'm sure he's matured a lot since then, but he was so fresh and eager and made me happy and proud to know that the younger generation was so well represented. Got to catch up with him to figure him out.

Beto - Not in the race yet, but what charisma and charm. Surely he must be the successor to Bill and Barrack in the charm/charisma department. And we should NEVER underestimate this gift in politics.

Joe - Loved him as VP and I voted him in one of the primaries in the 80s/90s. 88 I think after Jerry Brown dropped out. 2020 might be his swan song, but not sure he's up to the race. It's a grueling journey and after all he's been through, maybe he'll retire unblemished as Obama's VP. He has some skeletons/demons from the past that sunk him in his other runs and I'm sure they will resurface. But after Trump, maybe it won't even matter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,120 posts)
22. Good thumbnail impressions, thanks.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:04 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emulatorloo

(45,082 posts)
30. Ojeda (Trump voter) did drop out
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 04:25 PM
Feb 2019
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betsuni

(26,543 posts)
8. But...
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:43 AM
Feb 2019

1) Unusual that a candidate has such a serious problem with supporters not being nice to members on the same side; refers to fellow candidates as opponents as if they are the opposition party.
2) How does anyone know where the money is coming from. I thought money in politics is bad.
3) It is not news that Saudi Arabia is bad.

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pecosbob

(7,654 posts)
11. Probably won't vote for Bernie in a primary
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:36 AM
Feb 2019

Warren would represent the working class over the moneyed class without Bernie's extra baggage...but they both vote for big military budgets...as for Harris, I'm not likely to ever vote for a former prosecutor in a primary...period. Just not gonna do it. They're all Senators and I'm not a big fan of Senators as to me they represent the status quo and the status quo sucks.

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marble falls

(59,528 posts)
12. I like almost all of them and can vote for all of them. I'm waiting until primary season ...
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:51 AM
Feb 2019

to even begin to choose who I'm supporting.

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bigtree

(87,283 posts)
14. it's weird because the last post of yours had a Bernie spokesman trashing Hillary supporters
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:03 AM
Feb 2019

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lostnfound

(16,294 posts)
17. Haha. Good powers of observation
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:10 AM
Feb 2019

Our new world is starved for authenticity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LexVegas

(6,168 posts)
19. Lots of that "inconsistency" from this poster. nt
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:19 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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honest.abe

(8,877 posts)
20. Please keep us updated as you keep changing your mind.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:43 AM
Feb 2019

Its fascinating.

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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
23. If Bernie Sanders wins the primary , get ready for 4 more years of Trump.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr. Smith

(65 posts)
24. Why do you think Bernie couldn't beat Trump?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:35 PM
Feb 2019

I think he probably would have carried Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016. What a different world we would be living in if he had been the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JustAnotherGen

(32,500 posts)
26. Though I disagree on 4 more years of Trump
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:51 PM
Feb 2019

I don't think it will be some kind of landslide victory.

The Russians had ALL of the slams against Sanders prepared - they just never had to use them. Now they have had years to refine them.

I also think they both tap deeply (at risk of being called a bigot I'm gonna be honest) white male rage.

It will come down to who gets more white male rage between those two.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. Well, one needs to actually win the majority of Democratic votes to be the nominee
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 04:10 PM
Feb 2019

but while we're speculating about alternate realities, are there mosquitoes in the one you imagine?

I hate mosquitoes. Malaria sucks. But it's nice to imagine, isn't it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
31. Russia, and most Repubs, didn't unleash anything against Sanders in 2016.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
Feb 2019

They wanted Hillary to lose. Now that their man is in office, all the hate, lies and uncomfortable truths about Sanders will come spewing out should he be the nominee. The gloves will come completely off this time. In addition, there are many, many Dems that will not vote for him. That's why Sanders would lose to trump, in my opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
32. I just don't get how people assume that the reason dirt wasn't thrown at Sanders
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

is that he was invincible, when it's obvious that it was because the GOP and Russians didn't take him seriously enough to waste their time on him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
25. Bern's call for "civility" is only three years late
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

but better late than never, I guess...

And you might as well switch to Sanders since that's what you oh so transparently want to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
27. Wait a minute... So Sanders is saying a rigged election is better than no election?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:28 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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