
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:20 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
Democratic hopefuls embrace new meaning of reparations for slave descendantsSeveral Democratic presidential candidates are embracing reparations for the descendants of slaves — but not in the traditional sense. NBC News
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WeekiWater | Feb 2019 | OP |
beachbum bob | Feb 2019 | #1 | |
exboyfil | Feb 2019 | #2 | |
LovingA2andMI | Feb 2019 | #4 | |
WeekiWater | Feb 2019 | #3 | |
LovingA2andMI | Feb 2019 | #5 | |
LovingA2andMI | Feb 2019 | #6 | |
Panich52 | Feb 2019 | #7 | |
WeekiWater | Feb 2019 | #8 | |
Panich52 | Feb 2019 | #9 | |
totodeinhere | Feb 2019 | #10 |
Response to WeekiWater (Original post)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:25 PM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
1. doesn't sound like a good issue to get wrapped up. Many democrats do not have "white guilt"
what was affirmative action all about?
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:28 PM
exboyfil (17,658 posts)
2. Sounds like a straight path
to a Trump reelection to me.
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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:41 PM
LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)
4. You Think???
Really? Can you detail why African/American Descendants of Slaves that built this country we called America without pay and though great sacrifice are not entitled to any form of reparations since the promised 40 Acres and a Mule were never received?
Equally, the same question would apply to Indian-Americans who are the Original People of this land who were also forced to work in suffrage without pay building this land we call the United States of America? Look forward to reading your answers. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:32 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
3. I don't see it as a white guilt type of thing.
Equal opportunity does not occur by unchaining a slave. It’s not possible. Yes, affirmative action is a part of it. Clearly limited in scope and not enough.
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 12:45 PM
LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)
6. Who says this is about "White Guilt".....
You? As neither Harris, Booker, Castro, or Warren has made their calls for Reparations about any perceived "White Guilt"?
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Response to WeekiWater (Original post)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 01:36 PM
Panich52 (5,829 posts)
7. Idea for reparations -- tax relief instead of some payment
Have to admit, I thought reparations question was answered long ago. I also agree with Warren that First Americans should be included to some extent.
Since I'm sure the deficit is part of some opponents' argument, give those with proven slavery ancestry (high percentage of Native bloodline) a decent deduction on taxes, probably for limited time. Just an idea... ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Panich52 (Reply #7)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:03 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
8. I do feel reparations can come in many forms.
Taxation will be a difficult one without it being a payment anyway. A part of systemic oppression is hurdles of said group to be able to reach economic equality. That leaves many African Americans with a very limited income tax liability, if any at all. That doesn’t mean the tax code couldn’t be used as the vehicle, and it might be one of the best vehicles, but due to economic oppression it would still be a straight payment to many. It would be a bit offset by the many African Americans who do have more of a tax liability. It wouldn’t be a gain doing it like that. More of a shifting of numbers.
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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #8)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 02:49 PM
Panich52 (5,829 posts)
9. True. Complicated issue with even more complicated solutions
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Response to WeekiWater (Original post)
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 03:04 PM
totodeinhere (12,718 posts)
10. The devil is in the details.
Who would get the tax credits and who would not? Who qualifies as a recipient? What about recent immigrants with African descent? Or would you have to prove that you had ancestors who were slaves, or would simply being of African decent be enough? And how would you qualify. Would you need to submit a DNA test? What about people who are mostly of another race but whose DNA shows that there was someone of African descent on their family tree? Many questions and few answers at this point.
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