Has anyone ever been convinced to switch their support for a canidate

[Eko]

from an argument on here?

[we can do it]

1. No, I bounce back and forth between Harris and Warren.

Depends on what each does each day.

[Decoy of Fenris]

2. Not from an argument, but many good discussions are edifying me.

I've been impressed by Buttigieg and his supporters, and Biden's supporters here have proven to me at the very least that the man probably has one of the better if not the best chances of actually beating Trump. Arguments for the sake of arguments do nothing, but oftentimes there's good information lodged within them.

[tymorial]

3. In hindsight.

I supporter Sanders in 2016 voted for Clinton in the general. I am no longer a supporter and it's in large part of what I read here and I observed from supporters.

I am not rehashing the primary. I am just stating my history.

[MH1]

24. Similar to you, but for me, even more weight was given by real life

Behavior on DU could be trolls, or real people just appearing exaggerated due to the nature of a discussion board.

I saw people in real life act out the worst of what I saw on DU of a few Sanders supporters. Interestingly, I saw some nasty behavior by a few Clinton supporters here during that time - but saw no such thing from the Clinton supporters I knew in real life.

I think to some extent the behavior mapping from DU to real life mainly reinforced conclusions I made about the candidates' supporters and leadership.

I am hoping to stay out of the fray of b.s. this time and try to learn about issues here.

[First Speaker]

4. This year, I'm very open to the possibility...

...I've had a candidate every election cycle since 1972. McGovern, Udall, Teddy, Fritz, Dukakis, Tsongas, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama, Bernie. Only in 2016--last time--did I have to hesitate; usually, my gut knew who I favored. Not this time. I am genuinely undecided. There's one or two--no names--who I'm pretty sure I'm *not* for, though of course I'll support them against Trump. But I'm paying attention to the discussions here--and elsewhere, of course--more thoroughly than usual...

[KentuckyWoman]

5. yes

not an argument but i moved from Edwards to Obama partly because of information shared on DU

[mikewv]

6. I open to any candidate who can beat Trump

right now I am with Pete

[Honeycombe8]

7. Not specifically. But there are times...

there are times that posters point out things I didn't know, and that matter. All that goes into my decision.

But I'm usually a late decider (except for Obama; he had me at hello my name is Barack Obama). If I decided earlier, I might change my mind based on what others say. But it's about information and facts. Not attempts at persuasiveness or browbeating.

[IronLionZion]

8. If any candidate's supporters are consistently irritating and insulting

then I switch to vote against that candidate

[Celerity]

40. +1

[airplaneman]

9. I go here more than anywhere else and pick my candidate as the one who holds my ideals the best n/t.

[DownriverDem]

10. I was

undecided, but was really waiting for Biden. Go Joe!

[abqtommy]

11. No. All the back-and-forth

has convinced me that it's still too early to pick favorites. I remain committed to supporting all
our present candidates and the nominee when chosen.

[Mme. Defarge]

12. Self-deleted

[Tipperary]

13. I have seen more than one poster say they have changed their mind because they do not like

another poster, therefore they do not like their choice. This cracks me up. How easy it would be to manipulate people like that here on du.

It’s kind of childish, imo. A woman I used to encounter through work was a Hillary supporter just like me, but I never enjoyed interacting with this woman for various reasons. I cannot imagine that I would have changed my preference because of my dislike for that person. I really just cannot grasp that kind of thinking.

[Cha]

14. Not so far but it's early

yet.

I'm certainly happy Biden is entering the race, and I'm glad he waited until nowish!

[Iggo]

15. No, I still support them all.

[artislife]

16. Yes.

I thought Bernie was too old and had two other candidates in my top two. One has fallen because of their centrist views and the other because they are not getting any traction.

Reading posts here just reminded me that wishy washy stands are not acceptable. We need to be bold.

[better]

17. I have not yet, but remain open to the possibility.

I'm a very facts and detail oriented person, so for me, it's all about convincing arguments of actual directly relevant merit. Right now, I'm still most supportive of Biden, on the basis of the known quantity and electoral prospects, but I could very much see myself getting behind Buttigieg, Harris, O'Rourke, Sanders, or Warren as things develop. I like all of them, but at the same time, I do also really want a strong woman on the ticket, yet I'm also mindful that that gender, while important, may not always be the best criteria. I supported Secretary Clinton in '08, but in hindsight, Obama was quite clearly a truly remarkable president, and I was just slow to recognize how true that turned out to be, in the primaries.

So in recognition of the fact that I am subject to overlooking things about which I may not know enough to make a thoroughly informed decision, I make a conscious effort to remain open to persuasion, as long as it's objective and fair.

[Paladin]

18. No, but Elizabeth Warren is looking better and better to me.

Her appearance on Rachel's show tonight, where she articulated her principled support for impeachment hearings, mirrors my own feelings about matter. Particularly with the statute of limitations running on trump's obstruction actions (thanks again, Rachel).

[Snotcicles]

30. She has voted against more of Trumps judicial appointments than any other in the Senate nt

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[femmedem]

31. She was great on Rachel. n/t

[NurseJackie]

19. Yes. For "a" candidate, but NOT the candidate that the writer was hoping for.

[LAS14]

20. How do you know the OP was hoping for a particular...

... candidate? It seemed like simple curiosity to me. Once again I wish that folks would take people's posts at face value and not claim to read minds.

[NurseJackie]

21. I read words, not minds. The poster was clear.

 Once again I wish that folks would take people's posts at face value and not claim to read minds

I read words, not minds. The poster was clear. I was absolutely talking him (or her) at face value. Why assume otherwise?

[Eko]

35. How was I clear what candidate I was hoping for?

What in this "Has anyone ever been convinced to switch their support for a candidate from an argument on here?" expresses that at all? What "words" give you that insight?
Thanks,
Eko.

[NurseJackie]

36. What makes you think I was talking about you?

[Eko]

37. Huh, who were you talking about?

Responding directly to me who wrote the op.
NurseJackie (23,516 posts)
19. Yes. For "a" candidate, but NOT the candidate that the writer was hoping for.

Reply from LAS14 (6,643 posts)
20. How do you know the OP was hoping for a particular...
... candidate? It seemed like simple curiosity to me. Once again I wish that folks would take people's posts at face value and not claim to read minds.

Then your reply to LAS14
I read words, not minds. The poster was clear.

Once again I wish that folks would take people's posts at face value and not claim to read minds

I read words, not minds. The poster was clear. I was absolutely talking him (or her) at face value. Why assume otherwise?

Im the one who wrote the op, Im the poster you are talking about.

[NurseJackie]

38. Some other writer... not you.

I think it's best that I don't name-names for obvious reasons. We should probably just leave it at that.

[Eko]

39. No prob!

Sorry I thought you were talking about me.
Keep on keeponing NurseJackie!
Eko.

[WeekiWater]

22. Not from an argument here...

But from reading here.

I swore off Charlie Crist a long time ago. Still can’t stand the guy. Because of some things I read from some very sensible people here I got over myself, donated to him, told everyone I knew to vote for him, and voted for him myself. He unseated a Republican. Thanks DU!

[Buzz cook]

23. 2004, supported Kerry, switched

to Dean and then of course back to Kerry.

Had a conversation with a Dean supporter before the caucus and switched because of it.

[BlueWI]

25. I went from Warren to Inslee.

DU posters provided helpful info on a candidate I wasn't initially familiar with.

[artislife]

33. He is my hope against hope

I don't know if he has the "it" factor to rise up in this crowded field. Like poor Martin O'Malley last time. Good, solid someone I could happily vote for.

[BlueWI]

41. Sure, lack of name recognition hurts Inslee.

I also liked Martin O'Malley, but he didn't seem as well prepared when speaking as Clinton or Sanders. I hope he seems another office.

Inslee to me is the strongest liberal wing candidate, but it's hard to win a party nomination. We'll see what happens!

[artislife]

43. I think I will send him so money

I am on his mailing list!

[Siwsan]

26. Not yet. I keep an open mind but have a strict criteria as to who I will take seriously

If they try to sway me with useful information, I'll listen. If they try to sway me by bashing, I ignore.

[rpannier]

27. On here... No

But, I have been convinced a couple of times over the past 36 years

People here have convinced me to give money when I said I wouldn't

[empedocles]

28. Switched away from Bernie

[avebury]

29. No. I really like Mayor Pete but think that Joe Biden brings the most to the table.

He has the most expierence, is internationally well respected, a very caring person and authentic.

Bottom line is whoever the Democratic candidate that makes it to the general election has to be someone who can beat Trump.

[Amimnoch]

32. Yes. 2008.

I was all in for Hillary for most of 2006/7 leading to the primary, but before election day in my state I did switch to Obama, and it was mostly due to what I saw here on him combined with what he said on the campaign.

In the early and mid part of that season, I didn’t feel he had enough experience.

[femmedem]

34. Yes, from info rather than arguments.

I've gone back and forth between Inslee and Buttigieg, neither of whom I knew much about until I started reading about them here.

I also already liked Harris from seeing her on C-Span, but information here has strengthened my appreciation for her.

[SMC22307]

42. Never. And until 2016 I never heard a voter....

claim they wouldn't vote for X candidate because of his or her supporters. It's lame.