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Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:08 PM

 

**University of NH poll** Sanders 30% Biden 18% Buttigieg 15% all others less than %5

Sanders +4, Biden -4, Buttigieg +14

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Reply **University of NH poll** Sanders 30% Biden 18% Buttigieg 15% all others less than %5 (Original post)
jezebel321 Apr 2019 OP
Renew Deal Apr 2019 #1
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #11
leftofcool Apr 2019 #27
Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #56
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #76
Gothmog Apr 2019 #72
thesquanderer Apr 2019 #82
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #84
Kurt V. Apr 2019 #51
lunamagica Apr 2019 #61
Gothmog Apr 2019 #71
Blue_true Apr 2019 #86
question everything Apr 2019 #2
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #3
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #8
Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #10
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #18
artislife Apr 2019 #23
Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #43
artislife Apr 2019 #46
qazplm135 Apr 2019 #28
George II Apr 2019 #5
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #9
George II Apr 2019 #14
dsc Apr 2019 #53
George II Apr 2019 #54
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #58
George II Apr 2019 #66
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #77
George II Apr 2019 #78
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #79
George II Apr 2019 #80
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #81
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #13
George II Apr 2019 #15
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #20
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #21
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #22
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #30
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #33
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #45
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #57
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #62
vsrazdem Apr 2019 #63
SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #34
highplainsdem Apr 2019 #4
George II Apr 2019 #6
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #12
artislife Apr 2019 #25
BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #26
highplainsdem Apr 2019 #29
artislife Apr 2019 #31
Name removed Apr 2019 #38
artislife Apr 2019 #42
Name removed Apr 2019 #47
artislife Apr 2019 #49
George II Apr 2019 #32
Autumn Apr 2019 #70
Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #74
Autumn Apr 2019 #75
Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #85
Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #83
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #7
crazytown Apr 2019 #16
mobeau69 Apr 2019 #17
NurseJackie Apr 2019 #24
RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 #41
Grendam Apr 2019 #59
mobeau69 Apr 2019 #69
George II Apr 2019 #19
highplainsdem Apr 2019 #35
True Dough Apr 2019 #36
George II Apr 2019 #39
Name removed Apr 2019 #44
crazytown Apr 2019 #37
George II Apr 2019 #40
crazytown Apr 2019 #52
George II Apr 2019 #67
crazytown Apr 2019 #68
Blue_true Apr 2019 #87
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #48
crazytown Apr 2019 #55
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #60
Blue_true Apr 2019 #88
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Bettie Apr 2019 #64
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

1. Sanders is inevitable

 

Just sit back and take it all in.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:29 PM

11. I hope not because Trump will beat Sanders in a general.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:46 PM

27. Yep

 

Not enough Democrats will vote for him and not enough kids will show up to vote.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:30 PM

56. Forgive us if we don't believe you

 

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Response to Mr Tibbs (Reply #56)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:28 PM

76. Nothing to forgive. I just think Sanders fans don't pay attention to how we win.

 

I don't think Sanders can win the states we need,
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:59 PM

72. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states in the real world

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:17 PM

82. In which states do you see 2016 Hillary voters choosing Trump over Sanders?

 

Because unless that happens, Bernie gets the states that Hillary got... and he's got a decent shot at MI, WI, and PA. While he's not my first choice, I'd still feel very comfortable with ours odds of success if he were the nominee. Same with Biden.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #82)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:20 PM

84. It is not Hillary voters you need to worry about. It is WI, MI, and PA you have to worry about.

 

Sanders won't carry those states in a general...no shot in Ohio either. So Trump wins the electoral college.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:20 PM

51. too soon

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:41 PM

61. Then let's get ready for four more years of trump

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:59 PM

71. Really?

 


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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:47 PM

86. You don't think the book buying with campaign funds won't hurt Bernie?

 

That has the potential to strip away everything that Bernie says that he is. If Bernie starts to be seen as just another person that used politics to enrich himself or herself, his allure to progressive voters gets blown out of the water. I believe that Warren or Buttigieg are going to profit big if the campaign book buy becomes an issue.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:17 PM

2. N.H. is a neighbor. And, like Iowa is not a representation of the country

 

Time to remove both as the king makers.

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Response to question everything (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:22 PM

3. Oh come on, if Biden was ahead people would be jumping for joy.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:28 PM

8. Yeah, because Sanders would get out quicker...the sooner the better. We need to to have a

 

general election nominee that can win...sure I would vote for Sanders in a general but, he won't win.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:29 PM

10. Yep, like clockwork.

 

Bernie behind = aha Bernieís finished! Finished, I tell ya!

Bernie ahead = too early/name recognition! White people state! Fake poll! Clickey clickey!
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:36 PM

18. Yep, sounds pretty familiar.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:42 PM

23. He can't win. His numbers are too high. nt

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:06 PM

43. He and his million donors and volunteers should pack it in!

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #43)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:10 PM

46. He's reached people in all 50 states

 

and the territories, too.

There is no more land mass for him to reach.


Give it up.

Stop while you're ahead



of almost everybody!

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:48 PM

28. if anyone were ahead of Bernie in a NH poll

 

they'd be jumping for joy because he SHOULD be ahead in a state that neighbors him.

Just like Warren should win Mass and if she doesn't that's a problem for her, and if anyone, including Bernie ends up winning it, that's a boon for them.

Or Cali for Harris. Or Delaware for Biden.
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Response to question everything (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:24 PM

5. It's a shame that Iowa and New Hampshire are the first two states to primary/caucus....

 

They're two of the lowest populated states in the country and among the least homogeneous states as well.

Combined they have less than 1.4% of the population; Iowa is 90% white, New Hampshire 94%. Neither has a major city. And yet the media and electorate will look at them as choosing the "leader" for the nomination.
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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:28 PM

9. The demographics of those states certainly does NOT represent the United States, AND...

 

The demographics of those states certainly does NOT represent the United States, AND those demographics aren't as challenging for someone like BS. When everyone is basically the same, and when everyone has so much in common, it's easy for a politician to thread-the-needle.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:33 PM

14. Let's see how the states of NC, SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, and even FL vote. Those will be more....

 

....representative of the country and the Democratic Party than either of those states. Plus, they're predominantly republican states, too.
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Response to George II (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:21 PM

53. NC is hardly predominately GOP

 

In 2016 we won the governorship. In 2018 we won every statewide race (all judges) the two party vote for state legislature, and the contested two party vote for Congress. Not a predominately GOP state.
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Response to dsc (Reply #53)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:25 PM

54. I was referring to Iowa and New Hampshire, I guess I didn't word that sentence well. Sorry.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #54)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:40 PM

58. Odd that NH's entire congressional delegation is Democratic

 

and that both chambers of the legislature are controlled by the Democratic Party. That's really odd for a 'predominantly Republican" state. But I;ve read here that you're never wrong, so it must be so.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #58)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:11 PM

66. I feel like I'm playing in an American League baseball game here....batter up!

 

Look historically at New Hampshire, not just today.

Prior to Shaheen taking office in 2009 and Hassan just two years ago, both Senators were republicans going all the way back to the 1970s.

New Hampshire's governors have been predominantly republican, too - over the last 50 years republicans have been governor for 34 years, Democrats only 16 years. And of the 73 governors that have been from either party, 52 have been republican, 21 Democratic.

As for Representatives, going back to 1967 (I could go back further but it's worse), that's 120 years (60 for each of the two) republicans have held office 84 years vs. 36 years for Democrats.

BTW, New Hampshire doesn't have a "legislature", they have the General Court.

In the Senate, republicans have held the majority for 21 years since 1992, Democrats 5 years plus almost four months in 2019, and it was evenly split for one year.

In the House, republicans have had the majority for 21 years since 1992, Democrats 6 years plus almost four months in 2019.

Yes, New Hampshire is predominantly republican, unless of course it's not.
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Response to George II (Reply #66)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:29 PM

77. Like I said: never wrong.

 

Most political analysts consider my state a swing state. But obviously they didnít consult you.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #77)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:37 PM

78. Maybe they should have.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #78)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:42 PM

79. Lulzd.

 

Again: entire congressional delegation is Democratic, both chambers of the legislature are controlled by the Democratic Party, Clinton won the state in 16, Obama in 12 and 08, Kerry in 04.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #79)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:07 PM

80. Lulzd, you're from New Hampshire and yet you refer to the General Court as the "Legislature"?

 

So, a state where republicans held the majority in the Senate for 8 of the last 9 years and a majority in the House for 4 of the last 5 years is now considered a "swing state". Where was my head?
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Response to George II (Reply #80)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:13 PM

81. We all do. It is formally the General Court.

 

But as nobody outside of the politically savvy would know wtf you were talking about, it is commonly referred to as the legislature.

I donít know exactly where your head is, but if itís in a bad place Iíd get it out of there if I were you.

You could google the swing state status of nh, but it seems instead google should consult you.
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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:32 PM

13. Considering that he can't even get AA to attend a rally at a BLACK church in a MAJORITY BLACK city...

 

Considering that he can't even get AA (and other POC) to attend a rally at a BLACK church in a MAJORITY BLACK city, I think that's very revealing of why BS does well in places like IA, NH, and VT.

His rally in North Charleston, SC had so LITTLE ethnic diversity that it looked like he could have been somewhere in Vermont. In fact, based on the statistics, the demographics at that rally was even whiter than Vermont.

It's obvious that the AA and POC community are rejecting BS and the BS campaign. BS just doesn't connect with that community. The BS message just isn't resonating.

All I'm saying is, that without the AA vote, BS doesn't stand a chance. And without the "early" states of IA and NH, it's clear to me that BS would be knocked out much sooner.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:34 PM

15. Indeed.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:38 PM

20. Yes, keep plugging that 1 event over and over and maybe people will believe you.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:40 PM

21. Yes, keep denying it happened exactly as I said and maybe people will believe you.

 

Yes, keep plugging that 1 event over and over and maybe people will believe you.
Yes, keep denying it happened exactly as I said and maybe people will believe you. Good grief!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:41 PM

22. I didn't deny it. It was 1 event. He has had others in SC since then where he had their support.

 

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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:49 PM

30. You said "maybe people will believe you" ... meaning ME ... and insinuating that I'm lying.

 

You said "maybe people will believe you" ... meaning ME ... and insinuating that I'm lying. Calling me a liar, basically.

He has had others in SC since then where he had their support.
Which ones?
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:53 PM

33. I'm not calling you a liar. Your description was accurate, it was just not complete.

 

What I am insinuating is incorrect is your concept that Bernie does not have any African American support. Bernie and Biden are both leading in the polls for African American support. As far as what events in SC, they were posted here on DU. I am not going to do your work for you. If you want to deal in facts and not just conjecture, then you should look them up.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #33)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:08 PM

45. His support among the AA community and other POC is tepid and tenative, AT BEST.

 

His support among the AA community and other POC is tepid and tenative, AT BEST.

But I really can't blame anyone in the AA community for shying away and avoiding supporting someone who believes that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity.

I think it's also fair to say that the AA community isn't likely to view warmly a candidate who argues that people who the refuse to vote for an African-American because of his skin color "aren't racists".

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:35 PM

57. More than half of black voters have a favorable view of Sanders, and yes whether that transitions in

 

votes will not be known until the primaries start, but I would not call it tepid.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-like-bernie-sanders-just-fine-they-just-might-like-other-candidates-more/


A December 2018 Quinnipiac poll found that 55 percent of black voters had a favorable view of Sanders, while 26 percent had an unfavorable view. (Clinton was at 62-22.) Most more recent polls didnít publish candidatesí favorability with specific demographic groups. (Often the sample sizes arenít big enough for the results to be meaningful.) But we reached out to Morning Consult, which is doing regular polling of the 2020 race and so amasses fairly large samples of racial and demographic groups. According to their national polling conducted March 18-24, 71 percent of black Democrats had a favorable view of Sanders, compared to 10 percent who had an unfavorable view.
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Response to vsrazdem (Reply #57)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:45 PM

62. Ah... the "Morning Consult" poll.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #62)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:55 PM

63. And the quinnipiac poll, but maybe you have a better one to look at.

 

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Response to question everything (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:53 PM

34. Really. A lot of us in the rest of the country kind of wouldn't mind having our opinion heard ...

 

too, on what candidate(s) should make it into the final stages of a campaign. I'm Iowa'ed out, and also, NH'ed out. I am sick and tired of these two states grabbing all of the rings in the merry go round that's to come.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:23 PM

4. Sanders won the NH primary in 2016, too, but didn't get the nomination.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:25 PM

6. Even then he barely cracked 60% although NH's population fits his demographic perfectly.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:30 PM

12. Good point.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

25. And Joe Biden never got the nomination

 

both times he ran for president.

We shouldn't judge the future on the past, or should we? You tell me.
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Response to artislife (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:46 PM

26. A lot of Sanders supporters do that every day

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:48 PM

29. The difference is that Biden's leading in most polls now. And btw, even this

 

NH poll favoring Sanders has Biden leading Sanders when people are asked which candidate is most likable.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:51 PM

31. So early

 

Biden seems to always jump out quick. I loved him in 88 until the fizzle.

Three times the charm?

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Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:04 PM

42. Welcome to DU

 

I think I have my explanation.




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Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:14 PM

49. Thanks for reminding me

 

to buy some more socks.
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Response to artislife (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:52 PM

32. He never earnestly ran for President the last two times, for a variety of reasons....

 

....he withdrew both times before the first primary was held.
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Response to George II (Reply #32)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:56 PM

70. Really? He wasn't REALLY serious, see, he didn't actually WANT to win...

 

Sure Joe likes wasting time and money. NOT

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Response to Autumn (Reply #70)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:09 PM

74. He meant to lose.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #74)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:27 PM

75. In 88 he was the strongest candidate till the media reported he had plagiarized a speech

 

and he dropped out. In 2008 he didn't get enough significant support and he had made some controversial comments about Obama that the press was all over as being over the top. 2016 would have been his time. And he would have won.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #75)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:38 PM

85. Oh that.

 

ďI mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,"

That is the sort of self destruction Joe commits every campaign.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 06:12 PM

83. To add context...

 

He entered that race with 3% name recognition.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:26 PM

7. I would hope Sanders wins New Hamshire...meaningless...now if Biden wins it ...than Sanders should

 

get out of the primary...not good news for Warren.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:34 PM

16. Cf Monmouth U: Biden 27 Sanders 16 Buttigieg 9 Harris 7 Warren 7

 

NH April 4-9
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_ia_041119/

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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:36 PM

17. BOOT EDGE EDGE

 

Go Pete!
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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

24. He doesn't actually pronounce it that way, does he? Does anyone?

 

Seems to me like "BOOT a-jedge" is a far more accurate phonetic guide than "boot edge edge".

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:04 PM

41. I like Buddha-Judge, myself. :)

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:40 PM

59. Not many, but...

 

I don't like the "BOOT-edge-edge" explanation much (It's on his twitter profile). If anyone catches the CNN Townhall promos for tonight, the voiceover says it just like the recommendation, and it sounds very off.

Wikipedia has the pronunciation transcribed as /ˈbuːtɪdʒədʒ/ or BOOT-ih-jəj. I prefer the former because it's more accurate, but you need some knowledge of the IPA.

I've noticed that Buttigieg doesn't even say his own name consistently the same. The best thing to remember is the last vowel is a schwa [ə] which is basically an unstressed, neutral vowel that will often sound indistinctive. Probably why you hear people say the last syllable as either "jedge," "judge," or "jidge."
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:09 PM

69. :-)

 

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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:38 PM

19. Inasmuch as Biden isn't even a candidate yet, this is good news for him.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

35. Yep.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

36. True. And just as good or better for Pete Buttigieg

 

who only entered the national stage officially a few weeks ago. He had essentially no profile at all outside of Indiana just a few months ago. Amazing that he is already at 15% support in NH.
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Response to True Dough (Reply #36)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:02 PM

39. He only officially entered the race eight days ago, too.

 

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Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:56 PM

37. The Raw figures - Unsure 40, Sanders 18 Biden 12 Buttigieg 11 Harris 4

 

When likely primary voters were asked who they would vote for - before being given the list of names and asked to pick one. On this measure Sanders was down 10, Biden up 3 and Buttigieg up 10

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Response to crazytown (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:04 PM

40. Interesting, that's a HUGE "undecided", two out of every five polled.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:21 PM

52. Yes - but it's in line with common sense (& DU?)

 

... still making up my mind. Then ... if you had to pick one, here is a list on names - and thereís the final results.
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Response to crazytown (Reply #52)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:24 PM

67. I honestly think polls a year ahead of time are meaningless, but it gets some excited, I guess.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #67)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:40 PM

68. How about a poll one month ahead of time:

 

CBS Newspoll (National)
12/17/2003

Howard Dean 23%
Wesley Clark 10%
Joe Lieberman 10%
Richard Gephardt 6%
Al Sharpton 5%
John Kerry 4%
John Edwards 2%
Dennis Kucinich 1%

Iowa Caucus
January 19, 2004

John Kerry 38%
John Edwards 32%
Howard Dean 18%
Richard Gephardt 11%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Wesley Clark 0%

Poll: Dean Pulls Away In Dem Race
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-dean-pulls-away-in-dem-race/
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Response to George II (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

87. Somebody has not been looking at the democratic primary forum header. nt

 

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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:13 PM

48. B rated pollster and this particular poll is worthless.

 

Five hundred forty-nine (549) randomly selected New Hampshire adults were interviewed in English by landline and cellular telephone between April10 and April 18, 2019. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 4.2 percent. Included in the sample were 208 likely 2020 Republican Primary voters (margin of sampling error +/- 6.8 percent) and 241 likely 2020 Democratic Primary voters (margin of sampling error +/- 6.3 percent).


Only 9% have definitely decided, 14% are leaning towards someone and a full 70% are still undecided.

The percentage of Democratic primary voters who are undecided or cannot provide a name (40%) has decreased considerably since August 2018 (65%) as many candidates have begun campaigning in New Hampshire. The number of likely Democratic primary voters who mention Sanders (18%) has declined since February (28%) while the percentage who mention Buƫgieg (11%) has increased markedly since February (1%).


This is most telling:
A plurality of likely Democratic primary voters (40%) could not name a candidate when asked an open-ended question about whom they will vote for in the 2020 Primary. Vermont Senator and 2016 winner Bernie Sanders is mentioned by likely Democratic primary voters most frequently (18%), followed by Former Vice President Joe Biden (12%), and South Bend (IN) Mayor Pete Buƫgieg (11%). Four percent mention California Senator Kamala Harris, and 3% each mention Former Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke, New Jersey Senator Cory Booker, or Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren.


So, the results are 60% of 241 Democrats polled (145) and the MOE for that small a sample is a whopping +/-9.2%

This poll is worthless.

https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1557&context=survey_center_polls
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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #48)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:25 PM

55. Actually the 40% is unsure

 

What they then do is give those voters a list of names and ask them to pick one.

Hereís the raw figures graph

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Response to crazytown (Reply #55)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:41 PM

60. Well, 40% did not pick a candidate

 

which means only 60% did. That lowers the sample size for the actual candidate numbers and increases the MOE.

To give an example ...

100 people went for lunch, 40 said they were not hungry and would eat later. Of the remaining, 18% chose hamburger, 12% chose lasagna, 3% chinese, 2% Indian etc. etc. That doesn't mean 18% like hamburger. It only means 18% of 60 like hamburger.

I think this is terrible news for Sanders -- a neighboring state senator who won the primary last time with a 22% margin and a full 40% are still refusing to name? Not a good sign for him. Most of those 40% will end up choosing someone else.
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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #48)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:53 PM

88. Why should a pollster include republicans in a Democratic Party primary poll.

 

That is like putting a poster on one's back saying "Ratfuck me!"
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:15 PM

50. Interesting looking at the data. It appears Mayor Pete is pulling support from Biden as well as

 

Harris, comparing it with the February data. He does not seem to be pulling support from Sanders at this point.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:04 PM

64. Right now, Bernie Sanders has

 

name recognition.

I expect that things will even out as people learn more about other candidates.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:10 PM

65. So what? An all-white small state polls for all white males.

 

South Carolina is the real litmus test.
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Response to jezebel321 (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:01 PM

73. This poll is totally worthless-only 9% have selected candidate and 77% have no damn clue.

 


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