TPM: Biden Seems to be wavering on Campaign Launch, May be Postponed

[Tiggeroshii]

Though former Vice President Joe Biden was widely expected to announce his campaign launch this week, those plans may now be in flux as his team vacillates between different locations and timing options, according to a Monday Philadelphia Inquirer report.

The initial plan, as first reported by the Atlantic, was a video announcement on Wednesday followed by campaign stops in Charlottesville, Virginia then Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.

Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney’s office has reportedly received no permit requests for the big event spaces where Biden would likely speak, if the city was still part of the rollout plan.




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But why?

[hlthe2b]

1. Heavens... this is not a "good look" for any prospective campaign... n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

3. It's just a little confusing.

To be fair, it's not like he doesn't have time. In this environment I've been convinced that if they don't announce now, than they have no shot. But honestly, that probably isn't actually the case in Biden's case. The only problem is that he can start losing supporters to one of the 19 candidates who have actually declared.

[elleng]

5. Campaigns can and do change their plans.

The 'not good look' is enabling 'media' to grab the 'plans in waiting,' imo.

[hlthe2b]

6. Exactly. Don't leak prospective/potential plans...

That makes them look indecisive and uncoordinated. Biden deserves a better roll-out.

[Demit]

29. But it's not a campaign yet. At most it's a phantom campaign.

What's the holdup?

(That's a rhetorical question. Only Biden knows the answer to that.)

[Hortensis]

30. It isn't, but it'll be forgotten in short order.

[Demit]

33. Longest drum roll ever!

[WeekiWater]

2. But why?

I think you will find that this is him building anticipation. Nothing more.

[Tiggeroshii]

4. So they are cancelling all of the plans they are announcing for anticipation?

That doesn't seem right.

[WeekiWater]

7. "They" is a pretty ambiguous term when talking about the Biden campaign.

I don't know what "they" have locked down or cancelled.

[SFnomad]

8. What plans have "they" announced? Would it have been more to your liking if they said "soon"? n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

10. Several campaign stops and a video announcement.

None of which appear are ever going to happen. He really should not be considered as a serious candidate until he decides to officially run.

[Demit]

31. There was supposed to be a post-announcement fundraiser in Phila on Thursday.

Imagine being the hosts, who don't know if the party they're supposed to give is on or not.

[Tiggeroshii]

39. New information says he will announce on Thursday

So maybe the fundraiser will still work out?

[Mike Nelson]

9. Hmmm...

… something's up - I wonder what?

[Tiggeroshii]

13. He may be getting pressure to not run.

But who knows.

[fatrick]

16. Timing makes sense

Over last few months Bernie has moved from being outsider thru disruptive force to now odds on favorite for the nomination. Biden likes to play the game when the odds are in his favor and right now they're simply not. I don't blame Biden for that, but thats not the game right now, the odds are against us and we need fighters like Bernie who are ready to go to war. I simply don't think Biden is up for this.

[Eliot Rosewater]

25. Nice BASH you got in there on Biden, I see.

Biden likes to play the game when the odds are in his favor and right now they're simply not.

so SICK of tHis SHIT

[fatrick]

32. Not bashing

Just expressing.

Its a view-point, why so sensitive?

Biden's actually my #2 favorite, but he simply does like to play it safe, which is fine. Different times we need different warriors. Right now IMO we need a risk taker / fighter.

[David__77]

27. I don't know that the odds are bad for him, should he run.

That said, I somehow still wonder if he will run.

[Agschmid]

44. Bernie was second in line to the nomination last time, not sure I'd call that "outsider" status.

[CentralMass]

11. As my old German neighbor used to say when I was kid. S..t or get off the pot.

[fatrick]

21. Also ...

Sit on the fence long enough and your a** gonna get sore.

[vsrazdem]

22. Ha, ha, you beat me to it.

[BlueStater]

12. Jesus Christ.

So after all this "will he/won't he" bullshit he's been pulling for months, he hasn't even determined how he's going to launch his campaign?

Good to know he hasn't improved as a presidential candidate since 2007.

[BlueFlorida]

23. Remember that the "launch strategy" were leaks

and not an official word from the campaign.

[TeamPooka]

14. Don't run Joe.

[floppyboo]

15. I'm going to guess he's thinking of a plausible escape route

given that his numbers in both polls out today show he's loosing support (at a faster rate than SBS who has gone up since Jan. vs. Biben who has gone down - although SBS seems to have been hit hard from March to April) to Pete.
I think it would be good for him to hold off and wait to see if Pete can hold. It seems a 50/50 chance that Pete will go the way of Beto, and then the centrist wing of the party will flock back to Biden.

I agree with the poster above. He doesn't have to be in a hurry. This way he can keep testing the waters without the travel and $$$.

[BlueFlorida]

24. Oh give up already

Bernie has no chance no matter what Biden does.

[DoctorJoJo]

17. I Like Joe a Lot--He is My Birth-mate. But I Like Him Better As An ELDER Statesman!

[BlueFlorida]

19. This is no big deal

He is the instant front-runner and he can play the cat and mouse game.

He is in -- He is not in-- still drives the news cycle and sucks the oxygen out of the second place guy's message while garnering more and more attention to Biden.

[blue-wave]

26. Exactly

This is why Biden is my choice. He knows how to win. On top of this, he's a great human being and Democrat. Go Joe Go!!!

[left-of-center2012]

20. We need a candidate and president who is decisive

"Biden Seems to be wavering"

[OhZone]

28. Trump is decisive -

How about getting it right?

[left-of-center2012]

36. Trump is decisive ?????

No ! He's not.

[OhZone]

40. I but I thought -

he was the best at deciding! The best. The best! Believe me! Believe me!

[Renew Deal]

38. In the words of Bill Clinton: "It is better to be strong and wrong

than weak and right."

[corbettkroehler]

34. Bernie's "Hello From The Hill" 2016 Launch Was A Big Mistake

Hillary did a large, outdoor, rally-style launch which was MUCH more effective and, importantly, memorable.

Bernie's 2019 launch in Brooklyn was a yuge improvement over his milquetoast podium statement outside the Senate during the last cycle. The size of the crowd is proof.

[msongs]

35. "seems to be " is an opinion, not fact nt

[Renew Deal]

37. Biden is not ready for prime time

He's not the presidential type. That's why he never came close two times before.

[OhZone]

41. And yet -

I think he's gonna win the whole thing.

[Demsrule86]

43. He was VP for 8 years good luck with old shit. Not

[Demsrule86]

42. Thursday...video.

Rally on Monday on pittsburgh.