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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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There are a lot of people running period. irresistable Feb 2019 #1
You are correct... EVERY thing you say and ALL of your observations are true. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #2
If what the OP claimed really happened forklift Feb 2019 #31
It did. I was a witness, and a target. RandySF Feb 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #54
Sadly, it's true. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #59
+1 fleabiscuit Feb 2019 #55
Nice shitstirring. How do you handle such a large ladle? ret5hd Feb 2019 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #9
Yawn, yet thanks. We know where you stand. nt babylonsister Feb 2019 #4
Yawn? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #5
Yes, since everyone and their babylonsister Feb 2019 #11
That's not a bad assumption. fleabiscuit Feb 2019 #58
Well, I do !!!!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #60
It is NOT "yawning" to people Cha Feb 2019 #10
What? Your candidate lost. babylonsister Feb 2019 #13
Both of them did, Clinton and Sanders. Eko Feb 2019 #14
Oh Good god.. you have no idea what you're Cha Feb 2019 #16
Wait a minute? Eko Feb 2019 #18
Why yes, yes she did. But dead horses are babylonsister Feb 2019 #21
Ya ought to edit that. Eko Feb 2019 #22
Are you daft??? babylonsister Feb 2019 #23
Daft? Eko Feb 2019 #24
I think you're looking for something that is not there and babylonsister Feb 2019 #25
I think thats entirely possible. Eko Feb 2019 #28
Sorry, didnt realize you anwser Eko Feb 2019 #40
Oh, please. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #26
They know this. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #30
Seriously? Eko Feb 2019 #43
Sorry to you then... but obviously didn't see your apology, which came AFTER my post. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #44
Ill take it. Eko Feb 2019 #45
I will... you too! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #46
Not disparaging any Democratic canidate at all. Eko Feb 2019 #48
I hear ya on that one! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #50
Thanks, Eko Feb 2019 #53
Ah, didnt get it. Eko Feb 2019 #39
Perfect answer. Nt lostnfound Feb 2019 #20
I think we Bernie supporters forklift Feb 2019 #36
I dont like the way he does things at all. Eko Feb 2019 #6
Both sides proud patriot Feb 2019 #7
Supporting Democrats is not burning bridges. There is no R B Garr Feb 2019 #15
I'm not talking about the party proud patriot Feb 2019 #51
Yes we will win. IMHO there are stronger candidates though emulatorloo Feb 2019 #19
Yes it will proud patriot Feb 2019 #52
I voted for him in the 2016 Iowa caucus exboyfil Feb 2019 #8
man, I'm already sick of this meme.... RazBerryBeret Feb 2019 #12
... emulatorloo Feb 2019 #17
Oh please forklift Feb 2019 #27
Good luck with that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #32
Look back at the articles from 2008. There were the same complaints. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #49
I thought we weren't supposed to be bashing each other or the Dem candidates? chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #29
You forgot the Bernie exception. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #33
Tulsi gets bashed even more. watoos Feb 2019 #38
Tru dat!! Not sure why that is. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #41
That's what I thought. watoos Feb 2019 #37
I think that it would have been better if Bernie and Hillary didn't run, but obviously Bernie still_one Feb 2019 #35
I supported Bernie in 2016 backtoblue Feb 2019 #42
Too late!! haha!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #47
Yeah, same here, and I didn't burn any bridges either. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #56
Bernie JGug1 Feb 2019 #57
 

irresistable

(989 posts)
1. There are a lot of people running period.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:45 PM
Feb 2019

A recent poll showed that Bernie was the 2nd choice of a lot of people who supported other candidates.
So, it will be interesting to see how this race plays out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. You are correct... EVERY thing you say and ALL of your observations are true.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:45 PM
Feb 2019

I never forget, and I do not forgive easily. In order to forgive, I need to see change or sincere regret. I've seen nothing at all like that.

I've been accused of "holding a grudge" but I think there's an important distinction. Grudge-holding is based in stubbornness and in complete disregard for someone's genuine efforts to change or their heartfelt apology. Neither of which I've observed.

I guess it all boils down to the fact that Hillary spoiled me. From now on, I'll judge all candidates using her as my "yardstick" and it will be very difficult for most to "measure up" to my higher standards and expectations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

forklift

(401 posts)
31. If what the OP claimed really happened
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:01 PM
Feb 2019

I feel genuinely sorry.

I just hope the overzealousness of Bernie supporters is not held against his policies which are now copied and championed by many.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(83,040 posts)
34. It did. I was a witness, and a target.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:03 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to forklift (Reply #31)

 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
59. Sadly, it's true.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019

I'm heartened by your kind words and sincerity. But the same sentiments really do need to come from the top as well.

I do not have much confidence that such a thing will actually happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ret5hd

(22,405 posts)
3. Nice shitstirring. How do you handle such a large ladle?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:50 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to ret5hd (Reply #3)

 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
4. Yawn, yet thanks. We know where you stand. nt
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:51 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
11. Yes, since everyone and their
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:00 PM
Feb 2019

brother feel compelled to announce how they hate Bernie. I will just assume everyone does.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
58. That's not a bad assumption.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:38 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(19,191 posts)
60. Well, I do !!!!!!!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(318,140 posts)
10. It is NOT "yawning" to people
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:00 PM
Feb 2019

who lived through that shite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
13. What? Your candidate lost.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:07 PM
Feb 2019

Move on already. Living in the past isn't helping the future.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
14. Both of them did, Clinton and Sanders.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:09 PM
Feb 2019

eom.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(318,140 posts)
16. Oh Good god.. you have no idea what you're
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:15 PM
Feb 2019

talking about.

This has Nothing to do with Hillary losing to the russians. Really strange that you think it does.

I don't take "moving on" orders from you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
18. Wait a minute?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:20 PM
Feb 2019

Didn't your candidate also loose? You did support Clinton after the primaries right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
21. Why yes, yes she did. But dead horses are
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:39 PM
Feb 2019

of no use to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
22. Ya ought to edit that.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:45 PM
Feb 2019

Calling Clinton a dead horse is pretty offensive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
23. Are you daft???
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:46 PM
Feb 2019

I wasn't calling Clinton a dead horse. I'm moving on. Is that easier?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
24. Daft?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:50 PM
Feb 2019

LOL, no Im not. Maybe what you said could be interpreted in a way you don't see. "Why yes, yes she did. But dead horses are of no use to me." Are you incapable of seeing how that can be interpreted or are you just stuck on your high horse? I mean that with all due respect.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

babylonsister

(172,696 posts)
25. I think you're looking for something that is not there and
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:55 PM
Feb 2019

wasn't intended.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
28. I think thats entirely possible.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:59 PM
Feb 2019

Im an open kind of person. Certainly been wrong before. Still seems kind of offensive. Think you could do me a solid and maybe change it? Would be much appreciative.
Keeponkeeponing.
Eko.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
40. Sorry, didnt realize you anwser
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:07 PM
Feb 2019

was all encompassing of both, my bad and I apologize.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

chwaliszewski

(1,528 posts)
26. Oh, please.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:57 PM
Feb 2019

She wasn't calling Hillary a dead horse. It's about the expression 'Stop beating a dead horse'. Bernie lost the primary. Hillary lost the general. It happened, it sucked, it's in the past. Let's try to focus on the upcoming election, OK?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
30. They know this.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:01 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
43. Seriously?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:08 PM
Feb 2019

I just apologized and ya got to ruin it. SMH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
44. Sorry to you then... but obviously didn't see your apology, which came AFTER my post.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:10 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
45. Ill take it.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:11 PM
Feb 2019

But this may be instructive for all of us that sometimes we just don't quite understand what other people are saying and to have patience with each other.
Keep on keeponing InAbLuEsTaTe.
Eko.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
46. I will... you too!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:13 PM
Feb 2019

And good luck to your candidate... hope Biden jumps in the race.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
48. Not disparaging any Democratic canidate at all.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:17 PM
Feb 2019

but at this point Ill take a dead horse if its got a D after it over Dump. Just some humor lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
50. I hear ya on that one!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:22 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
53. Thanks,
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:29 PM
Feb 2019

and thanks for being you.
Eko.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
39. Ah, didnt get it.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:06 PM
Feb 2019

didn't realize the answer was in response to both questions. My bad, sorry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lostnfound

(17,466 posts)
20. Perfect answer. Nt
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:35 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

forklift

(401 posts)
36. I think we Bernie supporters
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:04 PM
Feb 2019

should do better than show indifference. There are many fantastic candidates and as they drop off one by one, we will need their supporters to come in Bernie's camp.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Eko

(9,907 posts)
6. I dont like the way he does things at all.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:53 PM
Feb 2019

I don't care about him anymore. I voted for him in the primaries and now just, don't, care. There was one season that was totally off the hook. Done with him and his supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

proud patriot

(102,457 posts)
7. Both sides
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:56 PM
Feb 2019

IMHO and speaking of only the most devout both sides burned bridges .

it seems both will continue to do so .. let's win this shall we ?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

R B Garr

(17,974 posts)
15. Supporting Democrats is not burning bridges. There is no
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:13 PM
Feb 2019

obligation to an Independent changing titles to strategize his election chances, so no bridge there to burn.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

proud patriot

(102,457 posts)
51. I'm not talking about the party
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:26 PM
Feb 2019

I'm talking about individual people .. Both sides have said horrible things ..

I voted for Bernie in the Primaries .. I voted For Hillary
in the General ..

I won't be made to feel bad , for observing what I have observed ..

My perspective is Valid ..

I was hoping both Bernie and Hillary would stay out of this election
for this very reason .. Bad Blood between Liberals as individuals ..
We agree on 90% of everything , why are we not celebrating our Goodness
on that 90% ??

Why ? because bridges were burned .. I don't blame Bernie or Hillary for those burnt Bridges.
I blame myself , I blame each one of us .. We allowed the division ..

It just truly Sucks .. I hate it when I see it ..

I will vote for the nominee .. I aim to stop Fascism the War machine .
I aim to help Millions of Americans by defending our Constitution ..

Hopefully we can do that .

My support for Harris takes root in the belief that we can get past the hurt.

We can Defeat trump and make the World a better place for all living things.

We must do it together

We must.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emulatorloo

(46,153 posts)
19. Yes we will win. IMHO there are stronger candidates though
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:21 PM
Feb 2019

Will be an interesting primary that is for sure

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

proud patriot

(102,457 posts)
52. Yes it will
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:29 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

exboyfil

(18,352 posts)
8. I voted for him in the 2016 Iowa caucus
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:56 PM
Feb 2019

and I regret that decision given how things played out. He is near the bottom of my list now. I would still vote for him in the general election (or any Democrat of course).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
12. man, I'm already sick of this meme....
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:03 PM
Feb 2019

we have some great choices, I'm excited to get behind a strong candidate. Say what you will, but you can't take away the fact that the man raised nearly $10m in 24 hours. I'm sure he's not crying for your support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emulatorloo

(46,153 posts)
17. ...
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:17 PM
Feb 2019

Money Can’t Buy Me Love

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

forklift

(401 posts)
27. Oh please
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:58 PM
Feb 2019

don't blame Bernie for what his supporters did.

I wasn't here back then but I apologize for what you claim happened to Hillary supporters. Must have been awful.

I just request that you don't hold it against Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
32. Good luck with that!!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:02 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,437 posts)
49. Look back at the articles from 2008. There were the same complaints.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:21 PM
Feb 2019

But then it was about “Obama fans” and how mean they were. In fact, Joan Walsh and Paul Krugman wrote almost identical articles 8 years apart about how mean online Obama fans were. They practically cut and pasted the same articles with different names.

Same shit different year. Politics ain’t bean bag.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

chwaliszewski

(1,528 posts)
29. I thought we weren't supposed to be bashing each other or the Dem candidates?
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:00 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
33. You forgot the Bernie exception.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:03 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
38. Tulsi gets bashed even more.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:05 PM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
41. Tru dat!! Not sure why that is.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:07 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
37. That's what I thought.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:04 PM
Feb 2019

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.

I have only 1 criteria to pick my nominee; he or she has to be tough as nails. I don't give a damn about policy, policy doesn't matter if we lose. All of our candidates are way better than MF45.

I see that Eric Holder is considering running, he is tough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
35. I think that it would have been better if Bernie and Hillary didn't run, but obviously Bernie
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:03 PM
Feb 2019

thought otherwise, and that is one of the reasons I think it is a good thing that Biden is running. I think Biden will reduce the odds of a brokered convention

and contrary to what some may believe, a brokered convention is not a good thing





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

backtoblue

(13,129 posts)
42. I supported Bernie in 2016
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:07 PM
Feb 2019

Then voted for Hillary in the General.

I certainly hope I haven't burnt any bridges....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,517 posts)
47. Too late!! haha!!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:15 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(15,398 posts)
56. Yeah, same here, and I didn't burn any bridges either.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:37 PM
Feb 2019

We ALL got burned by Trump, Putin, the Russian hackers and the Grand old Party. These people are still ripping us off every which way but loose.

What's that Roger Daltrey sang? "Get up my guitar and play, just like yesterday. Get on my knees and pray, WE DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JGug1

(320 posts)
57. Bernie
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:38 PM
Feb 2019

I think you are making a mistake. Bernie isn't my favorite candidate and I kind of hoped he wouldn't run. I hope Biden doesn't. I'm glad Hillary Clinton isn't running. But, Bernie has said the right things so far. I don't think he will hold up but he is leading in the Kos Straw Poll, as of now.
I'll come out strong for whomever gets the nomination. I hope every person here will, as well and I have no intention of bad mouthing any of them. Criticize their mistakes? Yup. Elizabeth Warren and her Native American stuff. Tulsi with her cowgirl visit to Syria and her previous positions on gays, lesbians and trans people, though she apparently has evolved. And so forth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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