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paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:55 PM Apr 2019

what makes Pete B. so popular?

As someone whose impression of Mayor Pete is that he seems decent enough, but not exceptionally impressive or outstanding, I've been a bit puzzled by his terrific popularity. But I may have a theory... I think he's seen as a youth candidate.

We are at a time when economic opportunity is worse for young people than it's ever been in my life, when the young are generally getting screwed, and intergenerational relations are becoming far more adversarial than they used to be (even though people mostly seem to be getting along well enough with their own parents, which was less common a generation ago).

I think this creates an exceptional demand for a candidate who represents the young. Pete Buttigieg is unusually young and fresh-faced, and addressing issues that matter to the young. Also, being gay helps align him with the young, as anti-gay prejudice is mainly found in older generations, and young people know it.

Am I getting warm?

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what makes Pete B. so popular? (Original Post) paulkienitz Apr 2019 OP
Exceptionally impressive and outstanding, elleng Apr 2019 #1
I feel that in the current field, being highly intelligent and articulate is not exceptional. paulkienitz Apr 2019 #5
That is great news, and some have those qualities more than others! elleng Apr 2019 #7
I'm 71. I think Mayor Pete is exceptionally impressive. rzemanfl Apr 2019 #2
true dat paulkienitz Apr 2019 #6
So true my grandson just moved in with my ex marlakay Apr 2019 #38
Intelligent, articulate, impressive, warm, carring leftofcool Apr 2019 #3
white. male. booker is a rhodes scholar too. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #4
bologna elleng Apr 2019 #10
Why? Control-Z Apr 2019 #41
It's also a great thing that Booker was a Rhodes scholar, but this thread is about Buttigieg. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20
Booker doesn't make himself as available to media JI7 Apr 2019 #30
I did not know that. Control-Z Apr 2019 #40
It's more than that. He really is exceptional; he's a military veteran (Naval intelligence); The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #8
Yes. an unusually clear way of explaining things and he seems completely at ease with himself elleng Apr 2019 #11
I think you're right. The way he explains things seems to be essential to his appeal. LonePirate Apr 2019 #13
Was quoting Ocelot. elleng Apr 2019 #14
+1 Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #16
He answers questions Renew Deal Apr 2019 #9
You are indeed thegoose Apr 2019 #12
I'm an old boomer riverwalker Apr 2019 #31
His answers reflect that he has thought about the issue, not just memorized a sound bite. IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #15
He's appealing to me like Trudeau or Macron LakeArenal Apr 2019 #17
I think it is a couple of things. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #18
He is really good at being a blank slate that people can project their ideals and visions on. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #19
Bingo SharonClark Apr 2019 #44
Smart and well spoken plus he has no voting record he has to defend. jalan48 Apr 2019 #21
He does have several debatable actions in South Bend. nt LAS14 Apr 2019 #26
Find us a two-term mayor who doesn't have "debatable actions" True Dough Apr 2019 #27
Right. I'm just saying that no voting record is balanced by mayor record. nt LAS14 Apr 2019 #32
Because of Trumps bluster, I responded well to someone who was soft spoken patricia92243 Apr 2019 #22
got a good laugh from you saying anti-gay prejudice is maily found in older msongs Apr 2019 #23
Yeah, it seems to permeate all age groups. cwydro Apr 2019 #42
He's an amazing guy! Turbineguy Apr 2019 #24
Doesn't sound scripted. LAS14 Apr 2019 #25
he makes himself available to large media JI7 Apr 2019 #28
I'm underwhelmed zipplewrath Apr 2019 #29
To me his really over the top intelligence means that he would... LAS14 Apr 2019 #33
He clung to bipartianship zipplewrath Apr 2019 #39
He is very likable. MineralMan Apr 2019 #34
Buttigieg is the most media-savvy of all the candidates, and that's my main criteria. marylandblue Apr 2019 #35
A major factor for many IMO is his ability to defend gayness vs ReligiousRight bobbieinok Apr 2019 #36
He's the anti-christ Ruby the Liberal Apr 2019 #37
this will help you understand... 'Meet Pete', his new database on issues and policy, 990 topics Celerity Apr 2019 #43
 

elleng

(130,732 posts)
1. Exceptionally impressive and outstanding,
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:57 PM
Apr 2019

highly intelligent and articulate. Has nothing to do with his age.

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paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
5. I feel that in the current field, being highly intelligent and articulate is not exceptional.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:00 PM
Apr 2019

And that's great news.

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elleng

(130,732 posts)
7. That is great news, and some have those qualities more than others!
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019
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rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
2. I'm 71. I think Mayor Pete is exceptionally impressive.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

Kids today get along better with their own parents because so many of them have to live with them.

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marlakay

(11,425 posts)
38. So true my grandson just moved in with my ex
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

Got too expensive on his own, he is 22. Lives in Bay Area rent insane.

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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. Intelligent, articulate, impressive, warm, carring
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

And he doesn't offer pie in the sky bullshit promises he knows will never get past Congress.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
4. white. male. booker is a rhodes scholar too.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019
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Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
41. Why?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:16 AM
Apr 2019

Are you suggesting this is false?

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
20. It's also a great thing that Booker was a Rhodes scholar, but this thread is about Buttigieg.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:21 PM
Apr 2019
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JI7

(89,240 posts)
30. Booker doesn't make himself as available to media
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Apr 2019
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Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
40. I did not know that.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:15 AM
Apr 2019

"booker is a rhodes scholar too."

That's great to know. Damn. It's almost embarrassing how smart our leaders are.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
8. It's more than that. He really is exceptional; he's a military veteran (Naval intelligence);
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019

he's a Harvard grad and was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford; he speaks seven languages and has performed as a concert pianist. He has an unusually clear way of explaining things and he seems completely at ease with himself and others. The guy is a natural politician with a brilliant mind. It's hard to say how far he'll go, but there's a lot more to him than his youth. I like him a lot and I'm old.

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elleng

(130,732 posts)
11. Yes. an unusually clear way of explaining things and he seems completely at ease with himself
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:04 PM
Apr 2019
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LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
13. I think you're right. The way he explains things seems to be essential to his appeal.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:09 PM
Apr 2019

His youth also seems to be benefitting him given the ages of Biden, Sanders and 45.

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elleng

(130,732 posts)
14. Was quoting Ocelot.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
Apr 2019

I'm not at all sure about effect of his age.

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Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
16. +1
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

I'm not that much older than him, in fact he's my young brother's age, but he shares some of my own life experiences via his military experience and he is all of the things you listed. Love him and hope for great things in his future, even if he doesn't win the nomination!

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Renew Deal

(81,846 posts)
9. He answers questions
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:02 PM
Apr 2019

And doesn’t make promises he probably can’t keep like erasing most student loans.

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thegoose

(3,115 posts)
12. You are indeed
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:07 PM
Apr 2019

He's this generation's Kennedy or Obama. He represents their values.

The hate spewed by the white Pukes resonates not at all with them. Pete's generation is racially colorful, sexually fluid and happy with each other, unlike the party currently represented by a ridiculous, bloated, ancient piece of shit with a stupid toupee.

How far will Pete go this time? Who knows? But he's got a future. And it's a future I want to be part of.

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riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
31. I'm an old boomer
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Apr 2019

and was trying to find a way to describe to my son why I like Buttigieg so much. There’s just a “goodness” about him. But our other candidates have goodness too, so it may be a nostalgia for...something.

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15. His answers reflect that he has thought about the issue, not just memorized a sound bite.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

He also seems to think very well on his feet. He sounds fresh, original, caring. Not sure he is ready to be president yet, but sure hope he has a role in our political future.

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LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
17. He's appealing to me like Trudeau or Macron
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:18 PM
Apr 2019

Someone you’d love to see as representing the US.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
18. I think it is a couple of things.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:19 PM
Apr 2019

I think he is John Kerry smart with the ability to communicate in simple terms. I think you are right about age. He is a millennial and that means something with respect to image. He is gay, served his country, and is an outstanding advocate for a lot of people. He respects the establishment, has respect from the establishment, yet is willing to promote change from within. He embodies what many of us see as a future powerbroker in politics.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
19. He is really good at being a blank slate that people can project their ideals and visions on.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:21 PM
Apr 2019

He's even better at it than Beto.

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jalan48

(13,841 posts)
21. Smart and well spoken plus he has no voting record he has to defend.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:28 PM
Apr 2019
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LAS14

(13,769 posts)
26. He does have several debatable actions in South Bend. nt
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:54 PM
Apr 2019
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True Dough

(17,246 posts)
27. Find us a two-term mayor who doesn't have "debatable actions"
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:58 PM
Apr 2019

Good luck with that!

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LAS14

(13,769 posts)
32. Right. I'm just saying that no voting record is balanced by mayor record. nt
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:08 PM
Apr 2019
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patricia92243

(12,591 posts)
22. Because of Trumps bluster, I responded well to someone who was soft spoken
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:39 PM
Apr 2019

and undramatic. Then I loved what he was saying and his youth.

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msongs

(67,361 posts)
23. got a good laugh from you saying anti-gay prejudice is maily found in older
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:41 PM
Apr 2019

generations

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
42. Yeah, it seems to permeate all age groups.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:01 AM
Apr 2019

That’s been my experience.

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LAS14

(13,769 posts)
25. Doesn't sound scripted.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:53 PM
Apr 2019

I was an Inslee supporter after I heard him on Rachel (and because of his climate change stance). But he didn't portray that unscripted enthusiasm on the CNN town hall. I was disappointed in Harris because she sounded so scripted. I stopped watching after three questions. But I stuck with Buttigieg till midnite. If it were just up to me I wouldn't require this kind of stage authenticity. But I want to win!!!

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JI7

(89,240 posts)
28. he makes himself available to large media
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019
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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
29. I'm underwhelmed
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019

Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:22 PM - Edit history (2)

Which isn't to say I'm disrespectful. He's an intelligent and articulate man. And really, after the last two GOP presidents, that's not something to ignore. But, I do wonder what he actually knows about running/influencing/controlling something as big as the executive branch of the US government. It's not something for amateurs.

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LAS14

(13,769 posts)
33. To me his really over the top intelligence means that he would...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:09 PM
Apr 2019

... quickly grasp how to gather the best and the brightest around him. Like Obama.

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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
39. He clung to bipartianship
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:23 PM
Apr 2019

Obama clung to bipartisanship for the better part of both terms and it cost us dearly. Hillary tried to warn him and he didn't listen.

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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
34. He is very likable.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:10 PM
Apr 2019

That's always a factor, especially early on. Kamala Harris also has that. Both are also smart, young, and have progressive ideas.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
35. Buttigieg is the most media-savvy of all the candidates, and that's my main criteria.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:12 PM
Apr 2019

Using modern media in all it's forms is the key beating Trump. Pete makes great television viewing and can tweet as effectively as Trump.

People think Trump is stupid so they don't realize he a master at manipulating media. They also don't realize how easily the media can be manipulated if you know what you are doing. Pete is the only candidate who figured out what Trump did and decided he could beat him at his own game. So far at least, his plan is working better than expected.

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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
36. A major factor for many IMO is his ability to defend gayness vs ReligiousRight
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:21 PM
Apr 2019

He doesn't let them get away with their claim it's 'against God's law'!!

IMO many admire how his defense drives the Religius Right absolutely bonkers. Some Religious Right leaders are claiming his candidacy is the worst danger Christianity has ever faced

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Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
37. He's the anti-christ
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

Mark my words - thats coming.

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Celerity

(43,107 posts)
43. this will help you understand... 'Meet Pete', his new database on issues and policy, 990 topics
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:10 AM
Apr 2019

and tonnes more to come.

https://meetpete.org/tags.html



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