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Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:55 PM

 

what makes Pete B. so popular?

As someone whose impression of Mayor Pete is that he seems decent enough, but not exceptionally impressive or outstanding, I've been a bit puzzled by his terrific popularity. But I may have a theory... I think he's seen as a youth candidate.

We are at a time when economic opportunity is worse for young people than it's ever been in my life, when the young are generally getting screwed, and intergenerational relations are becoming far more adversarial than they used to be (even though people mostly seem to be getting along well enough with their own parents, which was less common a generation ago).

I think this creates an exceptional demand for a candidate who represents the young. Pete Buttigieg is unusually young and fresh-faced, and addressing issues that matter to the young. Also, being gay helps align him with the young, as anti-gay prejudice is mainly found in older generations, and young people know it.

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paulkienitz Apr 2019 OP
elleng Apr 2019 #1
paulkienitz Apr 2019 #5
elleng Apr 2019 #7
rzemanfl Apr 2019 #2
paulkienitz Apr 2019 #6
marlakay Apr 2019 #38
leftofcool Apr 2019 #3
Kurt V. Apr 2019 #4
elleng Apr 2019 #10
Control-Z Apr 2019 #41
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20
JI7 Apr 2019 #30
Control-Z Apr 2019 #40
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #8
elleng Apr 2019 #11
LonePirate Apr 2019 #13
elleng Apr 2019 #14
Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #16
Renew Deal Apr 2019 #9
thegoose Apr 2019 #12
riverwalker Apr 2019 #31
IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #15
LakeArenal Apr 2019 #17
WeekiWater Apr 2019 #18
WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #19
SharonClark Apr 2019 #44
jalan48 Apr 2019 #21
LAS14 Apr 2019 #26
True Dough Apr 2019 #27
LAS14 Apr 2019 #32
patricia92243 Apr 2019 #22
msongs Apr 2019 #23
cwydro Apr 2019 #42
Turbineguy Apr 2019 #24
LAS14 Apr 2019 #25
JI7 Apr 2019 #28
zipplewrath Apr 2019 #29
LAS14 Apr 2019 #33
zipplewrath Apr 2019 #39
MineralMan Apr 2019 #34
marylandblue Apr 2019 #35
bobbieinok Apr 2019 #36
Ruby the Liberal Apr 2019 #37
Celerity Apr 2019 #43

Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:57 PM

1. Exceptionally impressive and outstanding,

 

highly intelligent and articulate. Has nothing to do with his age.
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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:00 PM

5. I feel that in the current field, being highly intelligent and articulate is not exceptional.

 

And that's great news.
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Response to paulkienitz (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:01 PM

7. That is great news, and some have those qualities more than others!

 

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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:59 PM

2. I'm 71. I think Mayor Pete is exceptionally impressive.

 

Kids today get along better with their own parents because so many of them have to live with them.
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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:00 PM

6. true dat

 

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:03 PM

38. So true my grandson just moved in with my ex

 

Got too expensive on his own, he is 22. Lives in Bay Area rent insane.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:59 PM

3. Intelligent, articulate, impressive, warm, carring

 

And he doesn't offer pie in the sky bullshit promises he knows will never get past Congress.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 05:59 PM

4. white. male. booker is a rhodes scholar too.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:03 PM

10. bologna

 

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Response to elleng (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:16 AM

41. Why?

 

Are you suggesting this is false?
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:21 PM

20. It's also a great thing that Booker was a Rhodes scholar, but this thread is about Buttigieg.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:02 PM

30. Booker doesn't make himself as available to media

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:15 AM

40. I did not know that.

 

"booker is a rhodes scholar too."

That's great to know. Damn. It's almost embarrassing how smart our leaders are.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:01 PM

8. It's more than that. He really is exceptional; he's a military veteran (Naval intelligence);

 

he's a Harvard grad and was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford; he speaks seven languages and has performed as a concert pianist. He has an unusually clear way of explaining things and he seems completely at ease with himself and others. The guy is a natural politician with a brilliant mind. It's hard to say how far he'll go, but there's a lot more to him than his youth. I like him a lot and I'm old.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:04 PM

11. Yes. an unusually clear way of explaining things and he seems completely at ease with himself

 

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Response to elleng (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:09 PM

13. I think you're right. The way he explains things seems to be essential to his appeal.

 

His youth also seems to be benefitting him given the ages of Biden, Sanders and 45.
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:10 PM

14. Was quoting Ocelot.

 

I'm not at all sure about effect of his age.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:11 PM

16. +1

 

I'm not that much older than him, in fact he's my young brother's age, but he shares some of my own life experiences via his military experience and he is all of the things you listed. Love him and hope for great things in his future, even if he doesn't win the nomination!
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:02 PM

9. He answers questions

 

And doesn’t make promises he probably can’t keep like erasing most student loans.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:07 PM

12. You are indeed

 

He's this generation's Kennedy or Obama. He represents their values.

The hate spewed by the white Pukes resonates not at all with them. Pete's generation is racially colorful, sexually fluid and happy with each other, unlike the party currently represented by a ridiculous, bloated, ancient piece of shit with a stupid toupee.

How far will Pete go this time? Who knows? But he's got a future. And it's a future I want to be part of.
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Response to thegoose (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:02 PM

31. I'm an old boomer

 

and was trying to find a way to describe to my son why I like Buttigieg so much. There’s just a “goodness” about him. But our other candidates have goodness too, so it may be a nostalgia for...something.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:11 PM

15. His answers reflect that he has thought about the issue, not just memorized a sound bite.

 

He also seems to think very well on his feet. He sounds fresh, original, caring. Not sure he is ready to be president yet, but sure hope he has a role in our political future.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:18 PM

17. He's appealing to me like Trudeau or Macron

 

Someone you’d love to see as representing the US.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:19 PM

18. I think it is a couple of things.

 

I think he is John Kerry smart with the ability to communicate in simple terms. I think you are right about age. He is a millennial and that means something with respect to image. He is gay, served his country, and is an outstanding advocate for a lot of people. He respects the establishment, has respect from the establishment, yet is willing to promote change from within. He embodies what many of us see as a future powerbroker in politics.

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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:21 PM

19. He is really good at being a blank slate that people can project their ideals and visions on.

 

He's even better at it than Beto.
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:40 AM

44. Bingo

 

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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:28 PM

21. Smart and well spoken plus he has no voting record he has to defend.

 

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:54 PM

26. He does have several debatable actions in South Bend. nt

 

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:58 PM

27. Find us a two-term mayor who doesn't have "debatable actions"

 

Good luck with that!
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Response to True Dough (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:08 PM

32. Right. I'm just saying that no voting record is balanced by mayor record. nt

 

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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:39 PM

22. Because of Trumps bluster, I responded well to someone who was soft spoken

 

and undramatic. Then I loved what he was saying and his youth.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:41 PM

23. got a good laugh from you saying anti-gay prejudice is maily found in older

 

generations
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Response to msongs (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:01 AM

42. Yeah, it seems to permeate all age groups.

 

That’s been my experience.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:48 PM

24. He's an amazing guy!

 

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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:53 PM

25. Doesn't sound scripted.

 

I was an Inslee supporter after I heard him on Rachel (and because of his climate change stance). But he didn't portray that unscripted enthusiasm on the CNN town hall. I was disappointed in Harris because she sounded so scripted. I stopped watching after three questions. But I stuck with Buttigieg till midnite. If it were just up to me I wouldn't require this kind of stage authenticity. But I want to win!!!
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:00 PM

28. he makes himself available to large media

 

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Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:00 PM

29. I'm underwhelmed

 

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Which isn't to say I'm disrespectful. He's an intelligent and articulate man. And really, after the last two GOP presidents, that's not something to ignore. But, I do wonder what he actually knows about running/influencing/controlling something as big as the executive branch of the US government. It's not something for amateurs.
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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:09 PM

33. To me his really over the top intelligence means that he would...

 

... quickly grasp how to gather the best and the brightest around him. Like Obama.
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Response to LAS14 (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:23 PM

39. He clung to bipartianship

 

Obama clung to bipartisanship for the better part of both terms and it cost us dearly. Hillary tried to warn him and he didn't listen.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:10 PM

34. He is very likable.

 

That's always a factor, especially early on. Kamala Harris also has that. Both are also smart, young, and have progressive ideas.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:12 PM

35. Buttigieg is the most media-savvy of all the candidates, and that's my main criteria.

 

Using modern media in all it's forms is the key beating Trump. Pete makes great television viewing and can tweet as effectively as Trump.

People think Trump is stupid so they don't realize he a master at manipulating media. They also don't realize how easily the media can be manipulated if you know what you are doing. Pete is the only candidate who figured out what Trump did and decided he could beat him at his own game. So far at least, his plan is working better than expected.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:21 PM

36. A major factor for many IMO is his ability to defend gayness vs ReligiousRight

 

He doesn't let them get away with their claim it's 'against God's law'!!

IMO many admire how his defense drives the Religius Right absolutely bonkers. Some Religious Right leaders are claiming his candidacy is the worst danger Christianity has ever faced
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:32 PM

37. He's the anti-christ

 

Mark my words - thats coming.

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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:10 AM

43. this will help you understand... 'Meet Pete', his new database on issues and policy, 990 topics

 

and tonnes more to come.

https://meetpete.org/tags.html



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