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Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:44 AM Apr 2019

Officers at scene of Beto O'Rourke's 1998 DWI crash say they believe he tried to flee

Last edited Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:28 AM - Edit history (1)

The former police officer who arrested Beto O’Rourke for driving drunk in 1998, along with the sergeant who signed the incident report, both say they believe now what they reported at the time: that O’Rourke tried to leave the scene of the wreck he caused.

O’Rourke admits he was intoxicated and says there is no justification for his actions, but he has denied that he tried to flee.

"Beto's DWI is something he has long publicly and openly addressed over the last 20 years at town halls, on the debate stage, during interviews and in Op-Eds, calling it a serious mistake for which there is no excuse," said O'Rourke spokesman Chris Evans. "This has been widely and repeatedly reported on."

Neither the investigating officer, Richard Carrera, nor his former supervisor, Gary Hargrove, specifically recalls the events of that night more than 20 years ago. But both of the former Anthony Police Department officers told The Texas Tribune they have no doubt the report they compiled and signed is accurate.

More https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/24/beto-orourke-tried-flee-scene-1998-dwi-crash-officers-say/

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Officers at scene of Beto O'Rourke's 1998 DWI crash say they believe he tried to flee (Original Post) Jose Garcia Apr 2019 OP
Does he have any overdue library books from the '80s? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #1
DUI + Hit and run is a pretty serious offense Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #19
It happened 20 years ago and he hasn't done anything at all similar since. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20
I'm glad he adjusted well in life. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #2
Texas cops are all Republicons, they are just helping their party any way they can. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #3
How would these cops known 21 years aago the O'Rourke would be Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #23
Isolated incidents don't concern me. Patterns of bad behavior/choices, do. Siwsan Apr 2019 #4
+1 happybird Apr 2019 #31
Bush /Cheney had multiple DWI's between them . R B Garr Apr 2019 #5
Cheney shot his best friend in the face. George II Apr 2019 #17
In not a supporter snowybirdie Apr 2019 #6
There's no link, either. Cha Apr 2019 #13
Well this DUI must be all they gat, so have to milk it for all it's worth Dream Girl Apr 2019 #15
What is the source of this? Politicub Apr 2019 #7
A link to the article has been added Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #22
Why post another negative allegation against a candidate here on DU LakeArenal Apr 2019 #8
George W. Bush's drunk driving arrest uncovered too late delisen Apr 2019 #9
I'm not supporting him, but it's admirable that he managed to turn his life around. BlueStater Apr 2019 #10
A source for this should have been provided dsc Apr 2019 #11
Anyone have a good recipe for spaghetti sauce? awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #12
Or pics of kittens wearing hats? Dream Girl Apr 2019 #14
The obviously organized trashing of Beto can end now. Paladin Apr 2019 #16
Who cares? Trashing thread LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #18
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #27
Yes, that... and one step more. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #34
21 years ago ? left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #21
was the officer wearing a MAGA hat EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #24
I don't care EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #25
i don't really care, do you? Chin music Apr 2019 #26
Well, there's another reason to keep trump. Turbineguy Apr 2019 #28
This is irrelevant nonsense because the FACT is that Beto O'Rourke did NOT flee the scene mtnsnake Apr 2019 #29
I agree with most responders here, that this is irrelevant and unfair IndianaDave Apr 2019 #30
Many young people do stupid things Indygram Apr 2019 #32
Well it must be true - cops never lie. Runningdawg Apr 2019 #33
This is old news dalton99a Apr 2019 #35
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

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1. Does he have any overdue library books from the '80s?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:46 AM
Apr 2019
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Jose Garcia

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19. DUI + Hit and run is a pretty serious offense
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:13 AM
Apr 2019
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The Velveteen Ocelot

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20. It happened 20 years ago and he hasn't done anything at all similar since.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:16 AM
Apr 2019

Unless he's the Zodiac Killer I'm not interested in old one-off sins.

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WeekiWater

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2. I'm glad he adjusted well in life.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:46 AM
Apr 2019

Win for all of us.

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redstatebluegirl

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3. Texas cops are all Republicons, they are just helping their party any way they can.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:49 AM
Apr 2019
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Jose Garcia

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23. How would these cops known 21 years aago the O'Rourke would be
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:51 PM
Apr 2019

a presidential candidate in 2020?

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Siwsan

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4. Isolated incidents don't concern me. Patterns of bad behavior/choices, do.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

There isn't a single, solitary one of us with a pristine background. We've all made mistakes. The thing is, did we learn from them or did we take them as a challenge to not get caught, the next time.

IMHO, Beto is a good example of the first. trump* is a text book example of the second.

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R B Garr

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5. Bush /Cheney had multiple DWI's between them .
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

Oh dear.

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George II

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17. Cheney shot his best friend in the face.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:05 AM
Apr 2019
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snowybirdie

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6. In not a supporter
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

of Beto, but this hit piece is horrible! Why do you feel you must dredge it up? Let's focus on his record in government and his life today! Let's focus on the positives of all our candidates. None of them could be remotely as bad as the Orange one!

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Cha

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13. There's no link, either.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:55 AM
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Dream Girl

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15. Well this DUI must be all they gat, so have to milk it for all it's worth
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:58 AM
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Politicub

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7. What is the source of this?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:51 AM
Apr 2019

Will you please add it to the OP?

Until then, it's just a bunch of out-of-context quotes and claims.

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Jose Garcia

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22. A link to the article has been added
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:29 AM
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LakeArenal

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8. Why post another negative allegation against a candidate here on DU
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:52 AM
Apr 2019

These allegations really stink.

So anyone can say anything about anybody and twenty years later we are supposed to be judges.

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delisen

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9. George W. Bush's drunk driving arrest uncovered too late
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:52 AM
Apr 2019

to affect outcome in 2000. George and family had successfully hid it.

Don't see that this will have any traction.

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BlueStater

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10. I'm not supporting him, but it's admirable that he managed to turn his life around.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:52 AM
Apr 2019

Or should the mistakes a person made when they're young follow them around for the rest of their lives?

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dsc

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11. A source for this should have been provided
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:53 AM
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awesomerwb1

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12. Anyone have a good recipe for spaghetti sauce?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:54 AM
Apr 2019

Thanks.

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Dream Girl

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14. Or pics of kittens wearing hats?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:56 AM
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Paladin

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16. The obviously organized trashing of Beto can end now.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:05 AM
Apr 2019

It's had its intended effect: he's lost ground in the polls, and his Golden Boy image is tarnished.

Find a new target, Jose Garcia. We'll be watching you.

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LongtimeAZDem

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18. Who cares? Trashing thread
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:07 AM
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NurseJackie

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34. Yes, that... and one step more.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:55 PM
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left-of-center2012

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21. 21 years ago ?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

"Neither the investigating officer, Richard Carrera, nor his former supervisor, Gary Hargrove,
specifically recalls the events of that night more than 20 years ago."

But what the hell,
let's attack Beto anyway?

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EveHammond13

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24. was the officer wearing a MAGA hat
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:54 PM
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Chin music

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26. i don't really care, do you?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:58 PM
Apr 2019

We don't need to do this. Let's focus on the good of everyone running. Running for office is not easy to do. Let the chips fall where they may. I know I'm far from perfect, and, I don't want to judge people. If bad is what we are focusing on...i have three words...THE TRUMP FAMILY.

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Turbineguy

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28. Well, there's another reason to keep trump.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:06 PM
Apr 2019

At least he's dishonest.

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mtnsnake

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29. This is irrelevant nonsense because the FACT is that Beto O'Rourke did NOT flee the scene
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

How convenient that some "unnamed source" said they thought O'Rourke tried to flee the scene. Even if he TRIED to flee, and I'm taking Beto's word over anyone else's at that scene that he did not, the bottom line regardless of whose word you take is that Beto O'Rourke did NOT flee, period.

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IndianaDave

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30. I agree with most responders here, that this is irrelevant and unfair
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019

Beto was much younger and had (obviously) been drinking. Drinking impairs judgment. If he tried to flee, he was probably scared. Young people make all kinds of mistakes. His was very public, but it's long over and the remainder of his life appears to be positive and honorable. Let's be gracious and forgiving of youthful errors. All of us have made some.

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Indygram

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32. Many young people do stupid things
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:30 PM
Apr 2019

Not everyone takes responsibility or learns from their mistakes. Beto does that. That brush with the law and the fact that he can still be successful in life taught him, as he has said before, that just by being white he was still able to go on and have a successful future but that if he had of been a person of color that one mistake would have likely defined his future and prevented him from reaching his full potential.

So...Beto learning from his mistakes actually makes him even MORE appealing as a candidate for me.

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Runningdawg

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33. Well it must be true - cops never lie.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:53 PM
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dalton99a

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35. This is old news
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

The media already beat it to death during his Senate campaign

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