Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:00 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)

There is no excuse for this

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55 replies	Author	Time	Post
There is no excuse for this (Original post)	LongtimeAZDem	Feb 2019	OP
Or, she was a student at some time, and now she's a lobbyist ...	mr_lebowski	Feb 2019	#1
...	emulatorloo	Feb 2019	#3
Sounds like some fans couldn't	Cha	Feb 2019	#5
It's Trump tactics 101	bearsfootball516	Feb 2019	#25
I hope it Backfires!	Cha	Feb 2019	#36
Yep.	sheshe2	Feb 2019	#52
Every time!	betsuni	Mar 2019	#54
Quite Agree	Me.	Feb 2019	#27
She's still a student.	Skinner	Feb 2019	#12
and she has been an intern there for only two months. Regardless, that is no excuse by some to doxx	still_one	Feb 2019	#39
So what? Even if she was a Republican plant	Amimnoch	Feb 2019	#46
Targeted harassment and stalking.	emulatorloo	Feb 2019	#2
I saw that too, right here on this site. The fact that her name is known doesn't....	George II	Feb 2019	#38
They were playing word-games, and as far as I am concerned were deflecting from and rationalizing	emulatorloo	Feb 2019	#40
I can't defend these actions	GoodTimes146	Feb 2019	#4
All your points are excellent ones.	still_one	Feb 2019	#41
Doxing this student is unforgiveable	Gothmog	Feb 2019	#6
So they are picking up where they left off from the last campaign nt.	Trenzalore	Feb 2019	#7
You said it.	we can do it	Feb 2019	#49
Will Bernie show leadership and speak out about this?	yardwork	Feb 2019	#8
Not in any meaningful way.	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#16
I am shaking my head in disbelief	forklift	Feb 2019	#9
Remember when you said "If it really happened"?	LongtimeAZDem	Feb 2019	#10
I hear you	forklift	Feb 2019	#11
"All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing"	WeekiWater	Feb 2019	#14
Syntax Sir	forklift	Feb 2019	#18
I fully understood.	WeekiWater	Feb 2019	#19
Exactly. A candidate must show leadership by setting an example.	yardwork	Feb 2019	#22
Cannot disagree with you.	forklift	Feb 2019	#28
Ask Masha Mendieto about Bernie reaching out to extend	ehrnst	Feb 2019	#32
This isn't on Bernie, this is on those who are doxxing her. Yes, probably someone in Bernie's	still_one	Feb 2019	#42
Bernie will get blamed for it	forklift	Feb 2019	#43
who are these anonymous people on twitter? What heads to roll. The only thing he can do is express	still_one	Feb 2019	#44
He might have been able to say that last time, but he knows about things like that now	LongtimeAZDem	Feb 2019	#48
Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies.	MineralMan	Feb 2019	#13
I agree with Tom Watson	Gothmog	Feb 2019	#15
Well, that's interesting. (nt)	ehrnst	Feb 2019	#33
Too bad they can't handle questions about	Cha	Feb 2019	#37
Is that THE Tom Watson, or someone that has the same name? nt	Blue_true	Feb 2019	#50
I'm not surprised in the slightest.	backabby-blue	Feb 2019	#17
This sort of stuff will hurt sen. Sanders chances in the primary.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#20
She shut down her accounts or changed her ID because she was being attacked for that question.	George II	Feb 2019	#21
Then more people must ask harder questions.	yardwork	Feb 2019	#23
Starting with "why did you yell at the woman who asked you about sexual abuse in your campaign?",	LongtimeAZDem	Feb 2019	#26
Yes, that would be a good start.	George II	Feb 2019	#45
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2019	#24
Is Sanders so weak, so fragile that questioning him equals an attack?	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#29
If you see trolling or any suspicious behavior...	Initech	Feb 2019	#30
How you can report @progBlacksmith for targeted harassment	ehrnst	Feb 2019	#31
You are right--no excuse for this whatsoever. It's an embarrassment.	R B Garr	Feb 2019	#34
Creeps.	ismnotwasm	Feb 2019	#35
So any apology, admonition, leadership or even just a simple comment yet on this?	Maru Kitteh	Feb 2019	#47
None.	Blue_true	Feb 2019	#51
Doxxing is a regular practice on this site and nearly all political forums.	MadDAsHell	Feb 2019	#53
They're ALL in on it: corporate media, people asking questions at events to ask questions.	betsuni	Mar 2019	#55

Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:04 AM

mr_lebowski (33,643 posts)

1. Or, she was a student at some time, and now she's a lobbyist ...

I mean ... how are you so sure who's 'correct' here? Just asking ... I have no idea.

Also, original screenshot has the interest of like 3 people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:17 AM

emulatorloo (43,227 posts)

3. ...

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“It doesn’t matter where she works. She asked a question and she doesn’t deserve to be harassed and stalked because she did. I legitimately can not believe people are defending this!”

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:29 AM

Cha (289,534 posts)

5. Sounds like some fans couldn't

handle BS getting tough questions so they're trying madly to make this about the questioner.

Link to tweet

One of the questions..

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Thank You for that tweet, emulatorloo!

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:03 PM

bearsfootball516 (6,356 posts)

25. It's Trump tactics 101

Don't like the message? Attack the messenger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:27 PM

Cha (289,534 posts)

36. I hope it Backfires!

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

sheshe2 (80,797 posts)

52. Yep.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

betsuni (23,643 posts)

54. Every time!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:06 PM

Me. (35,454 posts)

27. Quite Agree

The scattering is revealing

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:52 AM

Skinner (63,645 posts)

12. She's still a student.

The google cache of her twitter account shows her as American University class of '20.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZoNOKa6NuwAJ:https://twitter.com/shadi_nasab%3Flang%3Den+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Response to Skinner (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:03 PM

still_one (89,163 posts)

39. and she has been an intern there for only two months. Regardless, that is no excuse by some to doxx

her.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:54 PM

Amimnoch (4,558 posts)

46. So what? Even if she was a Republican plant

It doesn’t change that it IS a valid question, and IS a concern of many who are considering whome they will or won’t support.

Why’s he so afraid to answer??

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:14 AM

emulatorloo (43,227 posts)

2. Targeted harassment and stalking.

I’ve seen some quibble that it isn’t technically Doxxing because her name was on TV.

Maybe so, but the harassment and stalking are inexcusable

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:00 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

38. I saw that too, right here on this site. The fact that her name is known doesn't....

....immune her from "doxxing". They're still prying into her background, career, etc. THAT is "doxxing" even if some don't want to accept that.

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Response to George II (Reply #38)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:03 PM

emulatorloo (43,227 posts)

40. They were playing word-games, and as far as I am concerned were deflecting from and rationalizing

the abhorrent behavior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:28 AM

GoodTimes146 (10 posts)

4. I can't defend these actions

because not only are they grotesque, who cares. She is a legitimate citizen who will be voting. If thats what she wanted to ask, she had every right. And Bernie handled as best he could. I think it's a great idea to make sure all of their volunteers and campaign workers are trained on the issue and to have 3rd party outlets to report to if it happens. That's actually a great thing! It's an unfortunate issue with many campaigns and should be controlled more closely. I won't name names but it has happened in recent times to other camps.

Edit: I forgot to mention the first reason why I decided to write a response to this. We have to be careful about who we are interacting with because I've seen many reports now that there are active bots out there in the social media sphere working to divide democrats. We seen a big reference to this today when Jacob Wohl got kicked off the tweeter. He was banned for life for creating fake accounts for that exact reason. Just keep that in mind.

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Response to GoodTimes146 (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:04 PM

still_one (89,163 posts)

41. All your points are excellent ones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:51 AM

Gothmog (136,204 posts)

6. Doxing this student is unforgiveable

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:49 AM

Trenzalore (2,331 posts)

7. So they are picking up where they left off from the last campaign nt.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 12:36 PM

we can do it (11,846 posts)

49. You said it.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:04 AM

yardwork (58,251 posts)

8. Will Bernie show leadership and speak out about this?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:01 AM

comradebillyboy (9,848 posts)

16. Not in any meaningful way.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:53 AM

forklift (401 posts)

9. I am shaking my head in disbelief

What kind of people do this? It is shameful and drags Bernie down into the gutter.

All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing but I can't deny that there is a subset that is involved in untoward activities like these.

Bernie should come out and apologize to that poor woman. A few more incidents like these and his candidacy would be sunk by people who want him elected.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:58 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)

10. Remember when you said "If it really happened"?

This is the kind of thing we were talking about, and it looks like it may be starting again.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:32 AM

forklift (401 posts)

11. I hear you

This is not good and it really happened. I hope Bernie condemns this behavior or his campaign will be over in 2 states.

I support Bernie because I believe he is a man of high ideals and this is the time for him to shine by showing those high ideals. The small subset of his rowdy supporters should be reined in. It reflects poorly on the vast majority of his supporters who are decent.

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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:36 AM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

14. "All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing"

I cannot say "all" because I do know some that don't rise to the level of your statement. That said, your statement is overall correct. Myself and others need to condemn things like this without making blanket statements that encompass really good people.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:26 AM

forklift (401 posts)

18. Syntax Sir

All Bernie supporters "I KNOW" ... there may be uncouth Bernie supporters whom I don't know.

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Response to forklift (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:29 AM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

19. I fully understood.

I was making just that distinction. I didn't want it appear that I was putting words in your mouth. There are no issues of "syntax".

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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:44 PM

yardwork (58,251 posts)

22. Exactly. A candidate must show leadership by setting an example.

Nobody can completely control how others behave, and we know there are bots, trolls, agents provocateurs, and bad actors everywhere.

Bernie can and must show leadership by setting clear examples for how his campaign will conduct itself. What are the core values of his campaign, now that he's declared that he's running for president?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:06 PM

forklift (401 posts)

28. Cannot disagree with you.

I think Bernie's popularity and acceptance will increase if he condemns the bad actors and tells them to stop these shenanigans.

I want Bernie to win and this will go a long way.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:57 PM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

32. Ask Masha Mendieto about Bernie reaching out to extend

apologies.

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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:14 PM

still_one (89,163 posts)

42. This isn't on Bernie, this is on those who are doxxing her. Yes, probably someone in Bernie's

campaign probably should make him aware of what happened, and it would be nice if he expressed regrets that some people, who none of us have any idea who they are, would engage in those activities.

but I do not think he has anything to apologize for on this.

Unfortunately, those involved in this can hurt a candidate, and while some no doubt are Sanders supporters, some no doubt are trolls also.

There is an effort by certain elements to divide Democrats, we all need to be vigilant

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Response to still_one (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:16 PM

forklift (401 posts)

43. Bernie will get blamed for it

He has to show leadership and let a few heads roll.

I am hopeful that he will take decisive action.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to forklift (Reply #43)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:21 PM

still_one (89,163 posts)

44. who are these anonymous people on twitter? What heads to roll. The only thing he can do is express

disappointment that some feel the need to this, and condemns it

There is nothing else he or anyone else in that situation can do

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Response to still_one (Reply #42)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:41 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)

48. He might have been able to say that last time, but he knows about things like that now

He has started up again knowing what happened before. It's on him.

If he's concerned about dividing Democrats, he should stop attacking them and become one.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:21 AM

MineralMan (145,707 posts)

13. Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies.

Resorting to doxxing people who ask difficult questions of Democratic candidates is disgusting.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:57 AM

Gothmog (136,204 posts)

15. I agree with Tom Watson

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:57 PM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

33. Well, that's interesting. (nt)

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:31 PM

Cha (289,534 posts)

37. Too bad they can't handle questions about

BS' history. This isn't going to stop people from asking them. Only make them More determined.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:24 PM

Blue_true (31,261 posts)

50. Is that THE Tom Watson, or someone that has the same name? nt

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:05 AM

backabby-blue (144 posts)

17. I'm not surprised in the slightest.

I was undecided in 2016 until I was attacked online for defending some of Hillary's policies. It made me turn 100% against my attackers candidate.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:38 AM

Demsrule86 (67,154 posts)

20. This sort of stuff will hurt sen. Sanders chances in the primary.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:57 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

21. She shut down her accounts or changed her ID because she was being attacked for that question.

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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:45 PM

yardwork (58,251 posts)

23. Then more people must ask harder questions.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:04 PM

LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)

26. Starting with "why did you yell at the woman who asked you about sexual abuse in your campaign?",

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followed by, "what will you do to stop your followers from attacking people like her online?"

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:39 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

45. Yes, that would be a good start.

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Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:07 PM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

29. Is Sanders so weak, so fragile that questioning him equals an attack?

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:08 PM

Initech (98,594 posts)

30. If you see trolling or any suspicious behavior...

DO NOT HESITATE TO REPORT IT!!!! We must be vigilante in reporting trolling, hate and harassment on social media. It's just like at the airports - if you see something, say something.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:53 PM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

31. How you can report @progBlacksmith for targeted harassment

https://twitter.com/ProgBlacksmith1 (they have a new account up, because the old one was suspended)

Click on the three dots to the right of the "Follow"

Click report@ProgBlacksmith1

Go through the following selections -
Their Tweets are abusive or hateful
Engaging in targeted harassment
Someone else
Done

The other account doing this is:

https://twitter.com/respecteconomy

If enough people do this, their accounts will be suspended by Twitter:

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:08 PM

R B Garr (16,710 posts)

34. You are right--no excuse for this whatsoever. It's an embarrassment.

How embarrassing that Democrats are being hunted down because they dare to ask Sanders something not on script.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:10 PM

ismnotwasm (41,516 posts)

35. Creeps.

disgusting

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:37 AM

Maru Kitteh (27,340 posts)

47. So any apology, admonition, leadership or even just a simple comment yet on this?

From Sanders?

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #47)

Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

Blue_true (31,261 posts)

51. None.

When the heat gets to hot, he will come out with a statement that he does not agree with what was done to the woman, but he can't control his supporters. You heard it before.

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Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

MadDAsHell (2,067 posts)