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There is no excuse for this (Original Post) LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 OP
Or, she was a student at some time, and now she's a lobbyist ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #1
... emulatorloo Feb 2019 #3
Sounds like some fans couldn't Cha Feb 2019 #5
It's Trump tactics 101 bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #25
I hope it Backfires! Cha Feb 2019 #36
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #52
Every time! betsuni Mar 2019 #54
Quite Agree Me. Feb 2019 #27
She's still a student. Skinner Feb 2019 #12
and she has been an intern there for only two months. Regardless, that is no excuse by some to doxx still_one Feb 2019 #39
So what? Even if she was a Republican plant Amimnoch Feb 2019 #46
Targeted harassment and stalking. emulatorloo Feb 2019 #2
I saw that too, right here on this site. The fact that her name is known doesn't.... George II Feb 2019 #38
They were playing word-games, and as far as I am concerned were deflecting from and rationalizing emulatorloo Feb 2019 #40
I can't defend these actions GoodTimes146 Feb 2019 #4
All your points are excellent ones. still_one Feb 2019 #41
Doxing this student is unforgiveable Gothmog Feb 2019 #6
So they are picking up where they left off from the last campaign nt. Trenzalore Feb 2019 #7
You said it. we can do it Feb 2019 #49
Will Bernie show leadership and speak out about this? yardwork Feb 2019 #8
Not in any meaningful way. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #16
I am shaking my head in disbelief forklift Feb 2019 #9
Remember when you said "If it really happened"? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #10
I hear you forklift Feb 2019 #11
"All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing" WeekiWater Feb 2019 #14
Syntax Sir forklift Feb 2019 #18
I fully understood. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #19
Exactly. A candidate must show leadership by setting an example. yardwork Feb 2019 #22
Cannot disagree with you. forklift Feb 2019 #28
Ask Masha Mendieto about Bernie reaching out to extend ehrnst Feb 2019 #32
This isn't on Bernie, this is on those who are doxxing her. Yes, probably someone in Bernie's still_one Feb 2019 #42
Bernie will get blamed for it forklift Feb 2019 #43
who are these anonymous people on twitter? What heads to roll. The only thing he can do is express still_one Feb 2019 #44
He might have been able to say that last time, but he knows about things like that now LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #48
Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies. MineralMan Feb 2019 #13
I agree with Tom Watson Gothmog Feb 2019 #15
Well, that's interesting. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #33
Too bad they can't handle questions about Cha Feb 2019 #37
Is that THE Tom Watson, or someone that has the same name? nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #50
I'm not surprised in the slightest. backabby-blue Feb 2019 #17
This sort of stuff will hurt sen. Sanders chances in the primary. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #20
She shut down her accounts or changed her ID because she was being attacked for that question. George II Feb 2019 #21
Then more people must ask harder questions. yardwork Feb 2019 #23
Starting with "why did you yell at the woman who asked you about sexual abuse in your campaign?", LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #26
Yes, that would be a good start. George II Feb 2019 #45
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #24
Is Sanders so weak, so fragile that questioning him equals an attack? lunamagica Feb 2019 #29
If you see trolling or any suspicious behavior... Initech Feb 2019 #30
How you can report @progBlacksmith for targeted harassment ehrnst Feb 2019 #31
You are right--no excuse for this whatsoever. It's an embarrassment. R B Garr Feb 2019 #34
Creeps. ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #35
So any apology, admonition, leadership or even just a simple comment yet on this? Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #47
None. Blue_true Feb 2019 #51
Doxxing is a regular practice on this site and nearly all political forums. MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #53
They're ALL in on it: corporate media, people asking questions at events to ask questions. betsuni Mar 2019 #55
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Or, she was a student at some time, and now she's a lobbyist ...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:04 AM
Feb 2019

I mean ... how are you so sure who's 'correct' here? Just asking ... I have no idea.

Also, original screenshot has the interest of like 3 people.

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emulatorloo

(44,119 posts)
3. ...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019



“It doesn’t matter where she works. She asked a question and she doesn’t deserve to be harassed and stalked because she did. I legitimately can not believe people are defending this!”
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Cha

(297,180 posts)
5. Sounds like some fans couldn't
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:29 AM
Feb 2019

handle BS getting tough questions so they're trying madly to make this about the questioner.





One of the questions..


Thank You for that tweet, emulatorloo!



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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
25. It's Trump tactics 101
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:03 PM
Feb 2019

Don't like the message? Attack the messenger.

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Cha

(297,180 posts)
36. I hope it Backfires!
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:27 PM
Feb 2019
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Quite Agree
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
Feb 2019

The scattering is revealing

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Skinner

(63,645 posts)
12. She's still a student.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:52 AM
Feb 2019
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still_one

(92,186 posts)
39. and she has been an intern there for only two months. Regardless, that is no excuse by some to doxx
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

her.

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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
46. So what? Even if she was a Republican plant
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:54 PM
Feb 2019

It doesn’t change that it IS a valid question, and IS a concern of many who are considering whome they will or won’t support.

Why’s he so afraid to answer??

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emulatorloo

(44,119 posts)
2. Targeted harassment and stalking.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:14 AM
Feb 2019

I’ve seen some quibble that it isn’t technically Doxxing because her name was on TV.

Maybe so, but the harassment and stalking are inexcusable

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George II

(67,782 posts)
38. I saw that too, right here on this site. The fact that her name is known doesn't....
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:00 PM
Feb 2019

....immune her from "doxxing". They're still prying into her background, career, etc. THAT is "doxxing" even if some don't want to accept that.

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emulatorloo

(44,119 posts)
40. They were playing word-games, and as far as I am concerned were deflecting from and rationalizing
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

the abhorrent behavior.

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GoodTimes146

(10 posts)
4. I can't defend these actions
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:28 AM
Feb 2019

because not only are they grotesque, who cares. She is a legitimate citizen who will be voting. If thats what she wanted to ask, she had every right. And Bernie handled as best he could. I think it's a great idea to make sure all of their volunteers and campaign workers are trained on the issue and to have 3rd party outlets to report to if it happens. That's actually a great thing! It's an unfortunate issue with many campaigns and should be controlled more closely. I won't name names but it has happened in recent times to other camps.

Edit: I forgot to mention the first reason why I decided to write a response to this. We have to be careful about who we are interacting with because I've seen many reports now that there are active bots out there in the social media sphere working to divide democrats. We seen a big reference to this today when Jacob Wohl got kicked off the tweeter. He was banned for life for creating fake accounts for that exact reason. Just keep that in mind.

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still_one

(92,186 posts)
41. All your points are excellent ones.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019
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Gothmog

(145,168 posts)
6. Doxing this student is unforgiveable
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:51 AM
Feb 2019
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
7. So they are picking up where they left off from the last campaign nt.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:49 AM
Feb 2019
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yardwork

(61,599 posts)
8. Will Bernie show leadership and speak out about this?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:04 AM
Feb 2019
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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
16. Not in any meaningful way.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019
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forklift

(401 posts)
9. I am shaking my head in disbelief
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:53 AM
Feb 2019

What kind of people do this? It is shameful and drags Bernie down into the gutter.

All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing but I can't deny that there is a subset that is involved in untoward activities like these.

Bernie should come out and apologize to that poor woman. A few more incidents like these and his candidacy would be sunk by people who want him elected.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
10. Remember when you said "If it really happened"?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:58 AM
Feb 2019

This is the kind of thing we were talking about, and it looks like it may be starting again.

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forklift

(401 posts)
11. I hear you
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:32 AM
Feb 2019

This is not good and it really happened. I hope Bernie condemns this behavior or his campaign will be over in 2 states.

I support Bernie because I believe he is a man of high ideals and this is the time for him to shine by showing those high ideals. The small subset of his rowdy supporters should be reined in. It reflects poorly on the vast majority of his supporters who are decent.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
14. "All Bernie supporters I know are polite and decent people who would never do such a thing"
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:36 AM
Feb 2019

I cannot say "all" because I do know some that don't rise to the level of your statement. That said, your statement is overall correct. Myself and others need to condemn things like this without making blanket statements that encompass really good people.

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forklift

(401 posts)
18. Syntax Sir
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:26 AM
Feb 2019

All Bernie supporters "I KNOW" ... there may be uncouth Bernie supporters whom I don't know.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
19. I fully understood.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

I was making just that distinction. I didn't want it appear that I was putting words in your mouth. There are no issues of "syntax".

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yardwork

(61,599 posts)
22. Exactly. A candidate must show leadership by setting an example.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:44 PM
Feb 2019

Nobody can completely control how others behave, and we know there are bots, trolls, agents provocateurs, and bad actors everywhere.

Bernie can and must show leadership by setting clear examples for how his campaign will conduct itself. What are the core values of his campaign, now that he's declared that he's running for president?

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forklift

(401 posts)
28. Cannot disagree with you.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
Feb 2019

I think Bernie's popularity and acceptance will increase if he condemns the bad actors and tells them to stop these shenanigans.

I want Bernie to win and this will go a long way.

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. Ask Masha Mendieto about Bernie reaching out to extend
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

apologies.

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still_one

(92,186 posts)
42. This isn't on Bernie, this is on those who are doxxing her. Yes, probably someone in Bernie's
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:14 PM
Feb 2019

campaign probably should make him aware of what happened, and it would be nice if he expressed regrets that some people, who none of us have any idea who they are, would engage in those activities.

but I do not think he has anything to apologize for on this.

Unfortunately, those involved in this can hurt a candidate, and while some no doubt are Sanders supporters, some no doubt are trolls also.

There is an effort by certain elements to divide Democrats, we all need to be vigilant

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forklift

(401 posts)
43. Bernie will get blamed for it
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:16 PM
Feb 2019

He has to show leadership and let a few heads roll.

I am hopeful that he will take decisive action.

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still_one

(92,186 posts)
44. who are these anonymous people on twitter? What heads to roll. The only thing he can do is express
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:21 PM
Feb 2019

disappointment that some feel the need to this, and condemns it

There is nothing else he or anyone else in that situation can do

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
48. He might have been able to say that last time, but he knows about things like that now
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:41 AM
Feb 2019

He has started up again knowing what happened before. It's on him.

If he's concerned about dividing Democrats, he should stop attacking them and become one.

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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

Resorting to doxxing people who ask difficult questions of Democratic candidates is disgusting.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. Well, that's interesting. (nt)
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019
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Cha

(297,180 posts)
37. Too bad they can't handle questions about
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:31 PM
Feb 2019

BS' history. This isn't going to stop people from asking them. Only make them More determined.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. Is that THE Tom Watson, or someone that has the same name? nt
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:24 PM
Feb 2019
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backabby-blue

(144 posts)
17. I'm not surprised in the slightest.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:05 AM
Feb 2019

I was undecided in 2016 until I was attacked online for defending some of Hillary's policies. It made me turn 100% against my attackers candidate.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
20. This sort of stuff will hurt sen. Sanders chances in the primary.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:38 AM
Feb 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
21. She shut down her accounts or changed her ID because she was being attacked for that question.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:57 AM
Feb 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
23. Then more people must ask harder questions.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 12:45 PM
Feb 2019
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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
26. Starting with "why did you yell at the woman who asked you about sexual abuse in your campaign?",
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:04 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

followed by, "what will you do to stop your followers from attacking people like her online?"

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George II

(67,782 posts)
45. Yes, that would be a good start.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:39 PM
Feb 2019
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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
29. Is Sanders so weak, so fragile that questioning him equals an attack?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:07 PM
Feb 2019
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Initech

(100,068 posts)
30. If you see trolling or any suspicious behavior...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:08 PM
Feb 2019
DO NOT HESITATE TO REPORT IT!!!! We must be vigilante in reporting trolling, hate and harassment on social media. It's just like at the airports - if you see something, say something.
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. How you can report @progBlacksmith for targeted harassment
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 01:53 PM
Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/ProgBlacksmith1 (they have a new account up, because the old one was suspended)

Click on the three dots to the right of the "Follow"

Click report@ProgBlacksmith1

Go through the following selections -
Their Tweets are abusive or hateful
Engaging in targeted harassment
Someone else
Done

The other account doing this is:

https://twitter.com/respecteconomy




If enough people do this, their accounts will be suspended by Twitter:
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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
34. You are right--no excuse for this whatsoever. It's an embarrassment.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019

How embarrassing that Democrats are being hunted down because they dare to ask Sanders something not on script.

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Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
47. So any apology, admonition, leadership or even just a simple comment yet on this?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:37 AM
Feb 2019

From Sanders?

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. None.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:27 PM
Feb 2019

When the heat gets to hot, he will come out with a statement that he does not agree with what was done to the woman, but he can't control his supporters. You heard it before.

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MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
53. Doxxing is a regular practice on this site and nearly all political forums.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:34 PM
Feb 2019

Are we really going to get on our high horse this particular time?

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betsuni

(25,475 posts)
55. They're ALL in on it: corporate media, people asking questions at events to ask questions.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:29 AM
Mar 2019

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS EVERYWHERE AND IT HAS QUESTIONS.

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