Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNew Tulsi Gabbard ad critical of Trump/Pence "unholy alliance" with Saudis
Thoughts?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nycbos
(6,034 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
watoos
(7,142 posts)I haven't heard many of our other candidates bashing Trump.
It's going to take someone as tough as nails to take on trump. At least she served in the military and understands all about the Saudi/Israeli/US alliance under Trump.
Remember something else, there was only 1 Democrat in the House who voted no to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)who decided tp pay a social visit to Trump in the Tower a few days after the election.
And she understands so little about the middle east that she believes Assad when he says he didn't gas his own people.
She's bad news.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chin music
(23,002 posts)That's my thought. And the message is right on. We need to fan out, and do MORE of this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)who need to be as tough as nails to take on Trump, and Elizabeth Warren is one of the 4.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
secondwind
(16,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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watoos
(7,142 posts)The Saudis have madrassas all over the world preaching their hatred of Christians. Oh yeah I forgot, the talking point is supposed to be that Iran is the #1 purveyor of terrorism. I forgot, Bibi is our leader.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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The Madrassas are well documented. You are spot on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Weird choice of words imho.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)Did Assad gas his own people? Tulsi is former military who served our nation and she doesn't deserve to be bashed here. It's one reason I proudly show her face.
Removing Assad from power was an alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the US. It had nothing to do with the false flag operation of Assad gassing his own people, it had all to with building a Qatari natural gas pipeline through Syria which Assad would not allow. Instead, an Iran/Iraq pipeline is being built through Syria.
Yes I know president Obama gave a speech blaming Assad, but then what did he do? He did nothing because he knew that it wasn't Assad.
Removing Assad from power would have had the same effect that removing Saddam from power had. People make me laugh, they have history to teach them but they never learn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)who visited Trump in his Tower in November 2016.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/syria-assad-obama-united-nations-227385
Even after he supposedly turned over his entire stockpile of chemical weapons three years ago, Bashar Assad is still crossing Barack Obama's "red line," a U.N. investigation has found.
U.S. officials confirmed Wednesday that the probe had determined that the Syrian president and his regime were responsible for at least two cases of the deadly use of chlorine in the Arab country's civil war since 2013. Investigators also blamed the Islamic State terrorist group in an incident involving mustard gas.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,652 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,396 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
watoos
(7,142 posts)for spreading anti-Mueller propaganda. Have fun Tulsi bashers throwing love and kisses at a country that hacks up a journalist with a bone saw. I haven't forgotten yet what Saudi Arabia did to us on 9/11 and neither has Tulsi.
Keep bashing her it will alleviate the hurt that sometimes comes from telling the truth.
I find it disgusting that so many here have sided with Saudi Arabia, the country that was really behind the gassing in Syria.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)If you believe she is honestly disturbed enough about Trump/Saud to speak on it, yet honestly NOT disturbed enough about Trump/Russia to speak on it, AND she is a well-informed well-intentioned intellectually-honest good-actor, I cannot help you.
Something is wrong about the things which she chooses to speak and act on. I may not be able to convince anyone else to think likewise, but as for myself, I cannot trust her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
watoos
(7,142 posts)the right wing narrative being pushed about Sri Lanka. I live among Trumpers in central Pa. where they voted 80-20 for Trump. I went golfing Monday and the first thing I heard from them was a question about why the liberal media isn't talking about Muslims killing Christians in Sri Lanka? You are spot on, she had the guts to answer the question my Trump friends asked me. She is the only candidate so far that I have seen answer that right wing talking point.
You're darn right I trust her, only she and mayor Pete, among our candidates served our country in the military, I stand with our veterans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,249 posts)come to the US and trump is rippping apart those christian children from their christian parents.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)marriage equality till 2014 -- and then told an interviewer in Oxy in 2015 that she hadn't changed her PERSONAL views on LGBT and abortion; she just no longer thought it was the government's business.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)for finding her not worthy of my trust. Can you actually provide a honest and comprehensive run-down of her stance on Trump-Russia/Putin which puts her on the right side of a) our national security, b) the rule of law, or c) intellectual honesty?
You know, I'm sure you know, I'm sure everyone here knows, that given the Russian-Iran-Syrian alignment and Saudi-Iranian antagonism, bashing Trump-Saudi corruption (however warranted that criticism may be to an *independent* arbiter) is still ALSO congruent with corrupt traitorous behavior favoring Assad or Putin or even Iran. Go ahead and provide some evidence that indicates she is worthy of the public trust which allows us to differentiate between the various explanations for her statements on this matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Soft on Saudi Arabia is a good line of attack and a valid one. Another is soft-on-Russia. While Trump became chummy with Putin, Russia has deployed what can only be interpreted to be a first-strike weapon. Trump is not making us safer, and he's destabilizing the alliances that have kept the peace.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Chin music
(23,002 posts)It's a sound bite info-bit. Who's to say that one about russia won't be next. Tulsi isnt perfect, neither am I. The elections a long time away. I like that she has the guts to proudly say she's a Democrat. Some can't even do that. And I loved the guy,...once. (PS..I will again if I have to...just sayin....NOT ma' first choice anymore.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)People don't trust her ehh. How many of our candidates did this?
Serving in Iraq
In 2004, as Tulsi was campaigning for re-election to the State House, the 29th Brigade Combat Team was called up and began preparing to deploy to Iraq. Tulsis name was not on the mandatory deployment roster, but she knew there was no way she could stay behind in beautiful Hawaii as her brothers and sisters were sent off to war.
She left an easy win to re-election and volunteered to deploy.
Keep bashing our veterans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassler
(3,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
proud patriot
(100,705 posts)Tulsi is the Genuine article
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided