Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumJoe Biden's High Crimes Against Logo Design
The BulwarkThe best thing this design has going for it is President. Everyone else in the Democratic field is running for America or the People or the BioDome. But Bidens entire campaign is really about his status as front-runneras the guy who will beat Trump. The choice to put President there emphasizes this idea. It gets you halfway home. It makes you realize that maybe, if you squint, you could see some of the other candidates as president of these United States, but that Biden is a natural fit. Hes ready for the job.
It is very not good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,578 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that the red's too recessive in the other. Who's Jo?
I'm too uncool to know whether I'm too old or too young, or just too uncool, for the aviator glasses to ping, but presumably they do with some group.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Very creative and clear.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,249 posts)WAVE, baby!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ohiogal
(32,000 posts)as a lapel button and the Biden President one as a bumper sticker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)I haven't read the article, but don't really need to... First impressions.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Siwsan
(26,263 posts)And I agree the circular one will make a great button.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)I think he can come out with four or five more logo designs for merchandise and rallies. People like choices and Biden doesn't need to brand himself. That part is done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)Between our SALT and property taxes, we lost a lot of deductions.
As for the article, you DO realize that this is an evaluation on graphic design, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im thinking Biden never invited them to lunch.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He's probably had those logos for years.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Be happy to put one on my car!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)Why should I care? The round one is a natural button design. It will work well at any size, which is its strongest point.
The bumper sticker logo is accessible at a glance. Nothing is more important than that.
And that's this random guy's opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
.99center
(1,237 posts)"The Bulwark
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)So, the editor of that is a graphical designer? An expert on that topic?
I'm not. I see no problem with the logos, though. I'd wear the button or use the other as a bumper sticker in a minute.
I'm not really interested in a "conservative" opinion. I get tons of those on Facebook. Feh!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)Joe Biden is in. After months of speculation and dozens of other candidates entering the race, the former vice-president launched his campaign for president Thursday. With it came all the trappings of a campaign launch, including a video, a website, merch, and a new logo.
And what a bad logo it is! At least, that seems to be the prevailing sentiment on Twitter, a platform thats notoriously anti-Biden. Here are the problems people have:
Its no secret that Biden plans to make a considerable effort to remind people of his association with the first black president of the United States. His logo is even doing some of the work for him, aping the circular shape of and red stripes of Obamas logo.
Link to tweet
With the e of Joe in red and the lack the letters vertical line, the logo makes it look like Bidens first name is Jo.
Link to tweet
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/the-many-problems-with-bidens-logo-according-to-the-haters.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym
For those looking for deep inner meaning in everything, I just happen to like grahic design analysis
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)Someone has too much time on his/her hands today, and is just looking for click fodder.
In reality, logos have no real effect on votes. They're just graphical representations people quickly get used to and ignore.
As many people will like them as dislike them, so it's a wash. It simply doesn't matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)It's a symbolic thing that can be identified with the campaign. That's why. However, logo design is always a compromise between the graphics team and whoever is paying. Since I deal with websites all the time, I often get asked about brand logos for the companies who are my clients. My real answer is always: It doesn't really matter all that much. The answer I provide to the client is based on the client's opinion of the logo, really. If the client likes it, it's fine with me. I'm a words guy, not a graphics guy.
If I need a logo, I design my own. I know it doesn't matter, so I just do it. I keep it simple, use spectral colors, and make it as symmetrical as I can. I design logos in Word or Windows Paint. Same thing with book cover art. If I need a book cover, I open Paint, size a blank box the size of the cover after calculating the number of pixels I need and then pick some art, choose a font and color and put it where I think it should be. If I want some sort of background effect, I use another Windows tool and pick something.
Takes about 10 minutes to do any of those things. I don't have an art department. I get to decide, so I make it look however I want it to look. In the end, it doesn't matter all that much, really. Here's the cover for my most recent book. 10 minutes, including creating the word cloud online. Like it? No? It doesn't matter. People are buying it, so...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)As some have pointed out, there's nothing wrong with the "Biden President" version, but the "Joe" version suggests that "Jo" is the candidate to support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)Much ado about nothing, I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)for the OP.
Thanks for the info!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)Don't be shy!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Must have come across it somehow
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,987 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,625 posts)Clear, easily read, bright colors=great!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)Easy to identify, easy put on a button or car bumper. I also like the 'No Malarkey' meme on accessories.
Btw, anyone who writes: "It is very not good" has already lost me. Yoda-speak is for Yoda alone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)Impressed am I not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demmiblue
(36,854 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doreen
(11,686 posts)but I have never paid attention to anyone's logos. It just has never been an issue of importance with me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,249 posts)away. I think Biden's are cool.. Obama's was the best!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)But what do I know, I'm just a voter.
Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden have the best merchandise, imho.
I think that Cory Booker's stuff isn't very good. Amy Klobuchar also has some rather uninspiring merchandise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,963 posts)I like them both!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)I wouldnt put much stock in what the OP or the writer says about logos. That stuff is subjective anyway. But I like it a lot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)You think?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But I'm certain someone will latch onto something just as absurd to pretend criticism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)... I told them if they were BEHIND her, it pointed left!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Most of the candidates logos have been not-so-great this year.
I really like Bernie's (shocker) but that's the mark he's had since 2016. Beto's logo is the same as his Senate run, its not very attractive in my opinion, but its a decently crafted logo. Kamala Harris' logo could use work, the font is sort of all over the place. The works FOR and PEOPLE are bigger than her name, which may be meant to convey a populist appeal but it appears sloppy on campaign gear. Cutting the logo down to just the tri-color "KAMALA" on the bumper sticker was a good move.
Elizabeth Warren's logo is disappointing to me. I thought her team would come up with something more dynamic for such a bold, trailblazing leader.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)And that the name is not centered left to right. There's more to critique but who cares, really. It's a political graphic, not intended for the ages, and probably done gratis.
And yes, I'm a graphic designer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)someone won or lost the race because of a logo?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,418 posts)I think the Biden one looks pleasant, and the inclusion of the word President is good.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brush
(53,778 posts)art director I like the logo. And what's derivative about the red stripes for the E?
Derived from what, the Amercan flag? That's the point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)and I think it's a very clever well done logo. My biggest problem with political logos is they're all so similar and boring. This one's not just a good design but definitely unique.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OhZone
(3,212 posts)remind me of attacks on Obama's brown suit or his use of a selfie stick once.
It's a fine logo, and the GOP/Russbots are just desperate for something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)I'd post a pic of it but I don't know how.
Can't wait to see "HICK" on the bumper of your car.
Can you post a pic of it when you get it on?
Thanks in advance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)continuing the midterm trend away from flag colors. But only for Democrats.
Black's having a moment, but other blues have always been an option. That is purple in Hickenlooper's, supposedly for his "purple state." Shocking pink with black (or white) in Gillebrand's.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)... really rolls off the tongue doesn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,249 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Not a bad strategy if that's intentional.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)A nod to Obama's logo
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,275 posts)evocative.
And it's short 'n' sweet. The guy everybody refers to by his first name. America is on first-name basis with Joe Biden.
One thing that strikes me right away - he would be an UNSURPASSED "Comforter-in-Chief," which is a big part of what a President of the United States is called upon to be. President Obama was pretty doggone magnificent in that role. The Asset, on the other hand, is abysmal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden