
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:02 AM
Vidal (642 posts)
Progressive Group Attacks Biden's Candidacy
"With the Democratic field now crystalizing as a battle between moderate and progressive wings, we’re seeing something we haven’t seen since the 2008 Democratic primary: a real battle for the soul of the Democratic Party.Almost immediately following Vice President Joe Biden’s announcement of his intention to seek the 2020 Democratic nomination, a group calling itself Justice Democrats released a statement assailing Biden as being part of the “old guard” that failed to stop Trump:
The group, which has buoyed high-profile lawmakers like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), slammed Biden as a relic of the Democratic Party’s “old guard” who opposes policies favored by the progressive base. “The old guard of the Democratic Party failed to stop Trump, and they can’t be counted on to lead the fight against his divide-and-conquer politics today. The party needs new leadership with a bold vision capable of energizing voters in the Democratic base who stayed home in 2016,” the group said in a statement. “Democrats are increasingly uniting around progressive populist policies like Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, free college, rejecting corporate money, and ending mass incarceration and deportation. We don’t need someone who voted for the Iraq War, for mass incarceration, and for the Bankruptcy Reform Act while voting against gay marriage, reproductive rights, and school desegregation.” Read More: https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2019/04/battle-lines-drawn-progressive-group-attacks-bidens-candidacy/
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
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Author | Time | Post |
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Vidal | Apr 2019 | OP |
BeyondGeography | Apr 2019 | #1 | |
Demit | Apr 2019 | #14 | |
BeyondGeography | Apr 2019 | #24 | |
Peacetrain | Apr 2019 | #2 | |
elleng | Apr 2019 | #4 | |
Peacetrain | Apr 2019 | #32 | |
elleng | Apr 2019 | #41 | |
Cha | Apr 2019 | #3 | |
dalton99a | Apr 2019 | #6 | |
Cha | Apr 2019 | #8 | |
mopinko | Apr 2019 | #15 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #19 | |
dalton99a | Apr 2019 | #26 | |
BlueFlorida | Apr 2019 | #5 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #9 | |
NYMinute | Apr 2019 | #28 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #7 | |
Historic NY | Apr 2019 | #10 | |
empedocles | Apr 2019 | #11 | |
namahage | Apr 2019 | #12 | |
Baclava | Apr 2019 | #13 | |
LovingA2andMI | Apr 2019 | #16 | |
dalton99a | Apr 2019 | #17 | |
rzemanfl | Apr 2019 | #18 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #20 | |
rzemanfl | Apr 2019 | #22 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #27 | |
BlueFlorida | Apr 2019 | #31 | |
mcar | Apr 2019 | #21 | |
Thekaspervote | Apr 2019 | #23 | |
BlueMTexpat | Apr 2019 | #25 | |
Clarity2 | Apr 2019 | #29 | |
Demsrule86 | Apr 2019 | #30 | |
George II | Apr 2019 | #33 | |
ucrdem | Apr 2019 | #35 | |
ucrdem | Apr 2019 | #34 | |
Bayard | Apr 2019 | #36 | |
LongtimeAZDem | Apr 2019 | #37 | |
Celerity | Apr 2019 | #38 | |
BannonsLiver | Apr 2019 | #39 | |
empedocles | Apr 2019 | #40 |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:03 AM
BeyondGeography (38,156 posts)
1. Kicking things off with his Comcast buddy didn't weaken their message any
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #1)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:32 AM
Demit (11,238 posts)
14. And the CEO of Independence Blue Cross.
That would be Daniel Hilferty, who is also on the board of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the trade association working to defeat the progressive push for Medicare for All. He has exclusively donated to Republicans this year, records show. He gave $5,000 to Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Demit (Reply #14)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:53 AM
BeyondGeography (38,156 posts)
24. I'm glad Biden is running
I like him, but I also think Democrats need to decide if they can ever change this country without fundamentally changing their relationship with corporate money. That conversation was going to happen anyway, but Biden’s presence will put a spotlight on it.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:05 AM
Peacetrain (21,839 posts)
2. There is an interesting phenom that we all fall for..
you get three people shaking their head yes.. and that is the only three people in the world we see.. we do not notice all the others standing around us ..
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Peacetrain (Reply #2)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:15 AM
elleng (118,101 posts)
4. Really,
and we feed the nay-sayer 'friends,' who serve very nicely to feed repugs and deplorables.
I'll take a break now. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to elleng (Reply #4)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:44 AM
Peacetrain (21,839 posts)
32. Hi elleng!!
You and I are on the same wave length so many times... it just amazes me.. I was telling my husband this morning.. I am turning off the news for a couple of weeks.. I am at peace so to speak now that Biden is in.. and just let things ride for a while.. its that time of year where I have CNN and MSNBC on for half the day I bet.. its crazy
Time to get the garden out anyway ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Peacetrain (Reply #32)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:16 PM
elleng (118,101 posts)
41. Yes we are, often on the same wave length.
I listen to classical music radio all day, until 7:00 NewsHour, so am not TOO preoccupied with blather, not in my ears anyway.
Went to laundromat (NOT a frequent stop for me,) and mercifully The View was on the TV, so did get to see and hear Joe. Pleased about that. Back to music now! ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:12 AM
Cha (277,722 posts)
3. Gotta tell ya..
I don't care what cenk's justice democrats have to say about anything.
They're full of gaslight and buzzwords.. they have no cred. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #3)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:22 AM
dalton99a (70,345 posts)
6. +1. Never forget - Cenk Uygur gives pussy grabbing advice
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/366156-young-turks-founder-apologizes-for-ignorant-past-blog-posts-about-women
The blog posts by Cenk Uygur from the early 2000s were first flagged by TheWrap.com in online archives after they were deleted.
"Obviously the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who don't nearly want to have sex as often as needed for the human race to get along fruitfully and peacefully," Uygur, now 47, wrote at the time. In another post called "The Rules of Dating," Uygur explains what should happen physically as the dating process progresses. "Women, ignore these at your peril,” he wrote in 2000. “Rule 1: There must be some serious making out by the third date. If I haven’t felt your tits by then, things are not about to last much longer. In fact, if you don’t get back on track by the fourth date, you’re done.” "Rule 2: There must be orgasm by the fifth date.” ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:25 AM
Cha (277,722 posts)
8. Idiot.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:41 AM
mopinko (64,444 posts)
15. rule 2 should read- i must have an orgasm, cuz
you know he aint talkin about hers.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:47 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
19. This is the man who denied the Armenian genocide and had the gall to name his program....
....after the group that perpetrated the genocide, the Young Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks By the way, with his attitude I wonder if he ever made it to a fifth date? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #19)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:58 AM
dalton99a (70,345 posts)
26. +1. Betcha few people know the history
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:17 AM
BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)
5. That group is really not of Democrats
I don't know who is behind them but their ultimate goal may be to divert votes from the nominee unless it is the one they want. (And Republicans want)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #5)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:26 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
9. Cenk Uygur was one of the original founders, along with Saikat Chakrabarti.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #9)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
NYMinute (3,256 posts)
28. They are not transparent about where their money comes from
and where it goes. Transparency is crucial, especially when it comes to money.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:22 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
7. Pretty discouraging that a so-called "progressive" organization has to resort to this....
....on the very first day of Biden's candidacy.
An article calling Biden a "relic" should NOT be permitted here, especially since Justice Democrats has been less that forthcoming in its finances and the people behind the organization. Quite honestly, though, I think many Biden supporters are happy that Justice Democrats are not endorsing Biden - their success rate is under 10%, and about 3% when you consider only new candidates. Last year they endorsed 76 candidates, only 7 won. Of those that won three were already incumbents and one ran unopposed. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:26 AM
Historic NY (35,776 posts)
10. How about the 26% of those called
Sanders progressives that voted for Trump and by all account will again if a female is the nominee.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Historic NY (Reply #10)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:30 AM
empedocles (15,331 posts)
11. Winning the war against trump is secondary to the various concerns of some.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:31 AM
namahage (1,157 posts)
12. Maybe if they made more of a case of why they are the better choice,
and less about setting themselves apart as “purer than thou,” they might manage more than 7 wins out of 78 candidates.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:31 AM
Baclava (11,297 posts)
13. So to fight the "divide and conquer" politics
You start your own "divide and conquer" movement! Brilliant, not
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:42 AM
LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)
16. Old Guard???
Age Discrimination Much? Also, don't they need look at their candidate before speaking?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #16)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:44 AM
dalton99a (70,345 posts)
17. No kidding
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:47 AM
rzemanfl (29,074 posts)
18. I need to wash socks. BBL. n/t
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to rzemanfl (Reply #18)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:48 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
20. Mine have holes in them. Darn!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #20)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:52 AM
rzemanfl (29,074 posts)
22. Just argue with them until the holes go away.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to rzemanfl (Reply #22)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:01 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
27. Bazinga!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #20)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:42 AM
BlueFlorida (1,532 posts)
31. I have mismatched socks
The left one has the Biden logo.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:48 AM
mcar (39,391 posts)
21. "Justice Democrats" are neither
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:52 AM
Thekaspervote (26,561 posts)
23. Right on time... so predictable!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:54 AM
BlueMTexpat (15,016 posts)
25. Attacking Biden
is not at all "progressive," IMO. I, for one, am disgusted that this faddish "progressive" label defines individuals who didn't support the best Dem Presidential candidate in 2016 and thus helped to give us all the WORST Occupant of the WH EVER.
![]() I am very proud to be a LIBERAL and will always be proud to support liberal candidates. ![]() Biden is not my top preference. But the individuals in this group are neither trustworthy nor liberal. They can take their "progressive" litmus test and stuff it "where the sun don't shine." ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:32 AM
Clarity2 (1,009 posts)
29. Ive been concerned
the past couple yrs that some of these groups, and even some large resistance accts on social media, are there to trip us up in 2020. People need to stay awake, as well as put their blinders on and vote for the person who is most likely to win against trump. To be only concerned about purity tests is NOT a strategy to win. We’re up against psychological warfare here. If these groups are legit, they’re living in a fantasyland where this is the average election cycle.
In the mueller report, russia was favoring bernie and trump. Ask yourself why russia also pushed people to the far right and far left. Because that was where bernie and trump were, and Hillary was not. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:41 AM
Demsrule86 (62,074 posts)
30. The progressives failed to flip one GOP seat in the midterms.
Moderates gave us back the house.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:49 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
33. Here's more, mostly false, trash from Justice Democrats:
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #33)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:02 AM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
35. gee who could have seen that coming
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:59 AM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
34. Well that's one way to become a millionaire. . .
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:10 AM
Bayard (15,678 posts)
36. This the last thing we need right now
Divisiveness. The most important thing is getting tRump out of the White House, and a Dem in there.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:16 AM
LongtimeAZDem (4,475 posts)
37. "Senator Biden introduced Global Warming legislation today; reporters reached out to Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez for comment, but were unable to reach her, as she won't be born for another three years."
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:19 AM
Celerity (30,964 posts)
38. -
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:23 AM
BannonsLiver (14,180 posts)
39. Why don't they stop whining and just try to beat him?
Or is that concept too old guard?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #39)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:31 AM
empedocles (15,331 posts)
40. . . . and just try to beat' trump, instead of helping him so much.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |