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Tue Nov 5, 2019, 10:50 AM

Amy can win.

One thing most people don't understand from outside of Minnesota who are just getting introduced to her by short clips on the debate stage is that she IS a progressive who's fought for labor, the disenfranchised, for women, for minorities, for the environment. At her core she has Wellstone's progressive populist ideals.

She makes difficult topics sound like common sense when she speaks and that resonates with everyone across our state. She gets the rural vote. She gets the non-college white male vote too.

I'm an AOC dem so I'd go Bernie or Elizabeth if Amy wasn't in it. I believe she could win against drumpf by 10-15% in the general but getting the nomination's another thing.

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Reply Amy can win. (Original post)
joost5 Nov 2019 OP
exboyfil Nov 2019 #1
Baked Potato Nov 2019 #2
joost5 Nov 2019 #4
TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #3
joost5 Nov 2019 #5
judeling Nov 2019 #6
joost5 Nov 2019 #7
judeling Nov 2019 #8

Response to joost5 (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 10:53 AM

1. I would go to Biden

before Warren, and Warren before Sanders.

I picked Klobuchar the day after the 2016 election. I will support her through the Iowa caucus and then whoever the general election candidate will be.

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Response to joost5 (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 11:09 AM

2. She can beat Trump

She hasnít let herself be forced into some indefensible positions, which Iím glad. Sheís not a bullshitter and folks can sense that.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 11:45 AM

4. Exactly.

And I love how she dismantles GOP talking points effortlessly. She'd be amazing one-on-one against T. And T would get triggered by having a powerful intellectually superior woman make his lying B.S. look ridiculous.

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Response to joost5 (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 11:28 AM

3. Well, I recognized her early on as a no-nonsense...

"Just get it done" type.

Personally, I dont give a damn about grand plans. but do care about direction and attitude.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 11:48 AM

5. Right.

And get that thinking that most people want a safe bet with Biden just to dislodge the orange barnacle. Those big institutional policy shifts and grand ideas cannot happen without a win. Kinda chicken vs the egg here.

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Response to joost5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:25 PM

6. Will Win

I hate making the tactical and strategic case, but that is exactly why she will win the nomination.
What has really been holding her back is the lack of Trump Head to Head polling. But with her now moving into 5th place in the first two contests she is likely to start getting some outside of her home state.
As the media focuses on Battle Ground states the initial set of Head to Heads that include her will be very good for her. At this point she will be more of a generic D without the doubts of better known candidates.

She has also been backing up a possible Iowa showing with NH and interestingly enough PA. She has positioned her campaign to take advantage of upticks.

So the big question right now is Mayor Pete. While he has finally started to win some Head to Heads he still under performs almost all the other candidates and as the conversation narrows to who can win this will begin to really hurt him.

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Response to judeling (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:30 PM

7. It will be interesting to see IA primary results since she's got

strong name recognition and a huge ground game of supporters there. And few of the candidates except for Bernie and Elizabeth works as hard as Amy on the campaign trail. Tireless.

On Pete, while I respect his intelligence and his ability to carve out a centrist branded candidacy - and he'd make a 10000x better President than drumpf - he has a tendency to bash our own candidates a bit too much. I don't like how he's saying how impossible some big structurally-changing ideas from Liz and Bernie are. Gotta energize us dude. It's the base that GOTV.

On the flip side, Amy trains her cannons on drumpf (mostly) as they should all be. People LIKE her wit, her wry humor, her common sense ideas and her genuineness.

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Response to joost5 (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 03:21 PM

8. Her Ground game

is over looked a lot. People look at the money and paid staff instead of the breadth and depth.
Even more so with the Impeachment Trial likely to freeze all the Senators in Washington more or less for weeks, her local facing organization and surrogates can play big dividends.

I expect Mayor Pete will overplay the advantage he will have by not sitting as a juror. If he does that will end up hurting him more then helping him.

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