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Rhiannon12866

(258,822 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 12:15 AM Mar 2024

'Righteous rage': How female rage translates to political progress - Velshi - MSNBC



For generations, the mythical trope of the so-called "angry Black woman" has been deployed across all corners of society, but it has been especially weaponized in the Trump era. However, female rage is real and it is an asset for political progress.

Vanity Fair Special Correspondent Molly Jong-Fast and Democratic strategist Ameshia Cross join Charles Coleman to unpack the strength of women’s passion and steadfastness in 2024. “There’s going to be a quake," Cross notes. “It has yet to be determined how strong that quake will be, but we need to pay attention when we’re talking about women and what they’re doing.” - Aired on 03/10/2024.

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LT Barclay

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1. My family just attended another event discussing an effort initiated by women after WW1. It was an appeal to the women
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 01:00 AM
Mar 2024

of the US to pressure politicians here to join the League of Nations. It was an outpouring of their grief due to the losses during the war.

https://www.youtube.com/live/g16X0hGiw70?si=kcmJHNYJ5Ml0hWBi

Rhiannon12866

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2. Thanks so much for sharing!
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 01:08 AM
Mar 2024

I wish now, like so many things these days, that I could ask my grandmother about this. Both of my grandfathers served in WWI - and lived to come home. My grandmother was younger, but she would remember.

And I agree, these days we need all of our traditional allies more than ever. BTW, I have been to Wales and it was one of the most beautiful and welcoming places I've ever been.

LT Barclay

(3,202 posts)
3. Well I wish you could have been there in person then. My wife was extremely moved and we are hoping the kids grow in
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 01:14 AM
Mar 2024

understanding. We had just watched an episode of the show Touched by an Angel that discussed the violence in Northern Ireland at the time, by depicting protestant and catholic kids on a joint trip to the US. We're hoping they grow to lead and not just exist.

The panel goes on to discuss how the issues surrounding war also touch on all the other issues and social disparities in our world. It was a great event.

Rhiannon12866

(258,822 posts)
4. Oh! I'm interested in the Irish divide even more!
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 01:35 AM
Mar 2024

I've been to Ireland twice, the first time when I was pretty young which was at the height of the "troubles." We took a taxi in Belfast and I sat up front with the driver so I asked him how he still managed to drive the streets back then and he said that he knew where the trouble spots were and avoided them. Of course, he may have not wanted to scare me.

And I remember when they were bringing groups of kids from "both sides" to the U.S. and bringing them together as a peace effort. I understand that things have changed there since that time, but it's gone on for so long since Éamon de Valera worked for a united Ireland.

LT Barclay

(3,202 posts)
5. I've never had the chance, but have followed it somewhat in the news and media. It was a favorite in movies for a while
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 01:55 AM
Mar 2024

and I still remember the details and the intensity of "A Prayer for the Dying". The whole thing is a horrible tragedy, similar to current events, so the show I mentioned was a great way to show our kids how children were affected too.
I read a book recently that might interest you, called "All Standing". It is about the Jeanie Johnston, the only Irish "famine ship" that never lost a passenger (others were called coffin ships and 100,000 died in transit). The Irish were treated as more worthless than cattle. That one human could view another like that was revelatory and appalling. This wasn't even hatred, just callous disregard of another human. I'm sure that attitude hasn't gone away, and I wonder how far it has spread and how many that govern have the same mindset. I know that the Bush's and Cheney's are in that category. But I would imagine that it fueled the fire to an extent.
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Rhiannon12866

(258,822 posts)
6. Thank you! I'm quite interested - my great grandparents came from Ireland
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 02:23 AM
Mar 2024

And I've been to the docks where the desperate waited to embark during the famine. It was quite a tearjerker just standing there and thinking of their desperation.

My great grandmother came over when she was a child with her family and my great grandfather came as a young man and they met and married here, They had a farm which is now part of the Saratoga Battlefield since Revolutionary War battles happened in the area and part of their home was of Revolutionary War vintage. They had 11 children, my grandfather was the eldest boy and he and his closest brother volunteered for WWI. My grandfather brought ammunition to the front on horseback and his brother was in a fierce battle where few survived - but only his helmet was knocked off. He was awarded the Silver Star several years ago and I went to the ceremony where two congressional delegations brought his surviving children (4 out of 5) flags that had flown over the Capitol. And one of his daughters read a letter describing the battle that he'd sent his closest sister from the front.

I only know my great uncle's surviving children (my grandfather died young, when my Dad was 12), but both of the congressional delegations were excited to be there since they'd never honored a WWI vet before. Both delegations were from Republican districts And I whispered to one of his daughters if they knew we were all Democrats. All of the Irish side of my family are lifelong Democrats.

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