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Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:55 PM Jun 2024

Lawrence O'Donnell: We live in a country where most commentators declared the liar the debate winner - The Last Word MSNBC



24 hours after the word “panic” appeared on television screens, MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell provides what he calls “calm analysis” of the first presidential debate of the 2024 election. - Aired on 06/28/2024.
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Lawrence O'Donnell: We live in a country where most commentators declared the liar the debate winner - The Last Word MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 OP
He sure cut through the bullshit. Oh, and piss on the New York Times. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #1
I was awfully glad to see he was on on a Friday. He is the voice of reason, exactly what we need to hear! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #2
He always does, and he knows from inside. JohnSJ Jun 2024 #3
This should be required viewing for all Democrats. nt SunSeeker Jun 2024 #4
Agreed! I'm watching the repeat on TV right now, excellent analysis Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #5
A great episode. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #6
I agree, one of his very best - experience counts! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #8
Thank you for bringing sanity to this group Rhiannon JohnSJ Jun 2024 #7
Thanks! This was clearly my favorite of the night, Lawrence's sane analysis was exactly what we needed to hear Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #9
................... JohnSJ Jun 2024 #11
Big thanks to you for posting, oasis Jun 2024 #10
Thanks! We really needed to hear from Lawrence tonight, the experienced voice of reason Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #12
Thanks!!! flamingdem Jun 2024 #13
Lawrence O'Donnell is great, but he got one thing wrong: Martin Eden Jun 2024 #14
Well said! He was thrilled that his plan came together and was enjoying every minute of it! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #17
Too bad Nancy Pelosi withheld the National Guard Martin Eden Jun 2024 #19
I remember that one! Is he now mixing Nancy Pelosi up with himself?? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #21
"does he think" Martin Eden Jun 2024 #22
He doesn't think, nor does he discuss actual issues that could help the people Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #23
Thanks! I love LOD's talk on tariffs, and how no one in trumpcult knows what tariffs are, and that tsf told 50 lies. ancianita Jun 2024 #15
It made no sense that everyone focused on Biden's lack of energy, due to a cold or jet lag Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #16
Absolutely. Joe being sick was unexpected, but the corporate machinery was ready to butcher him. ancianita Jun 2024 #18
Wow! I had no idea that there were so many! Well done!!! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #20
Wow, some calm, cool and collected analysis of the real situation... how refreshing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #24
I know! My favorite, too! Lawrence has the knowledge and experience to see these events clearly Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #25
Lawrence was the only member of the HPM Jun 2024 #26
I completely agree, and there was a good reason that he appeared on Friday, the day that he usually has a substitute host Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #27
LO has wisdom flamingdem Jul 2024 #31
A favorite MSNBC Commentator GreatAuntK Jun 2024 #28
I felt so very much better just listening to him, too! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #29
Dems contributed to the bad coverage. OldWiseGuy Jun 2024 #30

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
2. I was awfully glad to see he was on on a Friday. He is the voice of reason, exactly what we need to hear!
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:38 AM
Jun 2024

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
9. Thanks! This was clearly my favorite of the night, Lawrence's sane analysis was exactly what we needed to hear
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:23 AM
Jun 2024

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
12. Thanks! We really needed to hear from Lawrence tonight, the experienced voice of reason
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:00 AM
Jun 2024

Martin Eden

(15,743 posts)
14. Lawrence O'Donnell is great, but he got one thing wrong:
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 07:59 AM
Jun 2024

Donald Trump did not "freeze" for 187 minutes on Jan 6.

He was enjoying every second of it on TV, because the violence on his behalf by thousands of his ardent supporters was feeding his ego and his lust for retribution.

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
17. Well said! He was thrilled that his plan came together and was enjoying every minute of it!
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:16 AM
Jun 2024

Too bad for those who died and were seriously injured fighting for their lives...

Martin Eden

(15,743 posts)
19. Too bad Nancy Pelosi withheld the National Guard
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jun 2024


THAT brazen LIE should have made the post-debate headlines, along with an emphasis on all 50 goddamn LIES he spewed.

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
21. I remember that one! Is he now mixing Nancy Pelosi up with himself??
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:53 AM
Jun 2024

And does he still think Barack Obama is in his microwave??

Martin Eden

(15,743 posts)
22. "does he think"
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:06 PM
Jun 2024

Good question. Perhaps an expert on how the lizard brain functions could provide the answer.

We have seen some examples of creative thought from Smelvis.

For example:
The boat that can't float because the battery is too heavy, then Donald is faced with a decision whether to die by electrocution or shark attack.

However, he didn't "think" this all the way through.

If the boat is too heavy to float, how did it get to where the sharks are in the first place?

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
23. He doesn't think, nor does he discuss actual issues that could help the people
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 09:47 PM
Jun 2024

He just runs his mouth, stream of consciousness to his captive audience, bringing up crazy thoughts about electric boats, sharks and talking about movie character, Hannibal Lecter, as if he knows him - and from the clips we've seen, his deluded audience is confused, too.

And maybe if he saw a real doctor, rather than sycophant Ronny Jackson, there would be a real diagnosis. An attorney on MSNBC said that his lawyers could plead "diminished capacity" for him - where he could end up in a facility other than jail - but he also said they'd never do it.


ancianita

(43,313 posts)
15. Thanks! I love LOD's talk on tariffs, and how no one in trumpcult knows what tariffs are, and that tsf told 50 lies.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:07 AM
Jun 2024

I hadn't found another news source that has confirmed that many lies. Because most corporate media wanted to declare the liar the winner.

Within 24 hours, all the millions in donations, and LOD's discussion of polling like Morning Consult poll the next day, not to mention Wall St.'s trade numbers, showed that in reality, Biden is not just their man, but The Man.



Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
16. It made no sense that everyone focused on Biden's lack of energy, due to a cold or jet lag
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jun 2024

But where was the reporting on TFG's stream of lies and his usual offensive behavior??

And I thought that Lawrence gave the best analysis of the night!!!

ancianita

(43,313 posts)
18. Absolutely. Joe being sick was unexpected, but the corporate machinery was ready to butcher him.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:20 AM
Jun 2024

I just canceled my subscriptions to NYT and The Atlantic for headlines -- EIGHT within 24 hrs of the debate! like these from Atlantic.
Right before I did that, I switched Biden's name in their headlines to trump's name, then told them they've literally failed Americans (and that their founders are roiling in their graves) by not presenting who/what secures or endangers American's freedoms.

Dropping Out Is Trump's Most Patriotic Option
Trump's Loved Ones Owe Him the Truth
Someone Needs to Take Trump’s Keys
This Is The End of the Trumpism Era
The Trump-Replacement Operation
Every theory of how Donald Trump could win has fallen apart.
Time to Go, Don.
Calls for Trump’s Withdrawal Are a Sign of a Healthy Republican Party.


The best presentations of Biden always show the numbers. As the old saying goes, you will know them by their fruits.

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
25. I know! My favorite, too! Lawrence has the knowledge and experience to see these events clearly
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:26 AM
Jun 2024

And his calm analysis was just what we needed to hear!

HPM

(24 posts)
26. Lawrence was the only member of the
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:50 AM
Jun 2024

MSNBC post debate panel who didn’t throw Biden under the bus. He reminded the others that Trump would soon be sentenced, and the debate would soon fade from the media spotlight.

Thanks for posting this. I’ll bet Lawrence was surprised by all the handwringing by his colleagues.They should be ashamed of themselves for joining in the chorus of doom and gloom. Obviously, it wasn’t Biden at his best, but the focus should have been where it belonged- squarely on Trump’s lunacy and unfitness for office.

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
27. I completely agree, and there was a good reason that he appeared on Friday, the day that he usually has a substitute host
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:56 AM
Jun 2024

He has the experience and the knowledge so it was up to him to calm the waters - which I thought he did perfectly.

flamingdem

(40,950 posts)
31. LO has wisdom
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 01:06 AM
Jul 2024

I was truly disappointed with Alex, Joy, Claire McCaskell. They were losing it.

Everyone's phone was "blowing up". Who fricking cares about your phone?

GreatAuntK

(574 posts)
28. A favorite MSNBC Commentator
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:08 AM
Jun 2024

I was very discouraged watching the debate, of course, though I didn't even consider giving up on the President. Lawrence O'D is one of my favorites, and i rarely miss a show. He was a calming voice of reason on MSNBC post-debate analysis, as Joy Reid were debating whether President Biden should drop out of the race. Mr. O'Donnell's show as posted here gave me better perspective.

Rhiannon12866

(257,115 posts)
29. I felt so very much better just listening to him, too!
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 07:20 AM
Jun 2024

He always does, so that's why I watch - and post - him every night he's on!

OldWiseGuy

(2 posts)
30. Dems contributed to the bad coverage.
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:45 PM
Jun 2024

Take a page from Trump and don't bother to defend Biden, attack Trump. Each and every Dem commentator, political figure, supporter when first asked about the debate should have said "What a bunch of lies" regardless of the question asked. Follow that with "I'd like to see the list of those 19 people, I'll bet he couldn't name 19 people who were there." If forced to comment on Biden, it's "He really brought it home that he has plans to address our problems and Trump doesn't". Biden spoke so slowly, "Biden does talk slower than Trump so he couldn't possibly address all of Trump's lies in the time allotted"
Change the conversation. The other side does it well and speaks with a single voice.

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