France to recognize Palestine as a state - DW News

[Jacson6]

[Bayard]

1. Will this change anything for the Palestinians?

[annalog]

3. I wish it would

help the people in Gaza

https://www.motherjones.com/

[annalog]

2. One more reason

for me to love France. If only America would follow

[stopdiggin]

4. can we see a map of that .. ? borders .. ? -(nt)-

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[AloeVera]

5. As you know, nearly all the land promised by the UN to Palestinians has been taken by Israel.

At one time, all of it was Palestine. Then more than half was given away (on behalf of Palestinians, who had no say), then another quarter was taken by force during the Nakba and yet much more latervby land confiscations, occupation and creeping "facts on the ground" known as the lovely Isrraeli settlements. Now Gaza will be usurped too from Palestinians.

When there is no respect either for borders drawn by the world's international body nor for the right of another people to live on their own native land...what were you saying about Palestine's borders? Lol.

But since you asked, if there was even a bit of justice then Palestine would have the borders the UN allocated to it under the Partition Plan: 45% of historic Palestine. But since there isn't, at the very least it should have the 1967 borders, which is a mere 22% of historic Palestine. But of course that would mean goodbye to the settlements and that will never happen.

So, in the very best and not likely scenario, Palestinians would have to make do with about 5-10% of historic Palestine, broken up and divided by the settlements. Even this pittance, and vastly less than they were promised in exchange for giving up more than half their land, the great State of Israel is not willing to give them. In fact it wants to expel them entirely.

It's why I'm on the side of Palestinians. A quaint little thing called justice.

Aren't you glad you asked?

[stopdiggin]

6. my question remains - (and in connection to the OP) - what borders are France looking to

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establish/recognize? Has anything like that been articulated - in relation to this 'announcement' ?

[AloeVera]

7. You know it's just symbolic, right?

Performative, even. I guess timed to bring pressure on Israel to stop starving people and killing the starving. It's nothing really without a plan of action to back it up.

No talk of borders, no one has the right to determine that except the two parties. At least in theory.