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Rhiannon12866

(258,910 posts)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 04:50 AM Aug 2025

'The American Constitution won.' Neal Katyal celebrates after Trump's tariffs ruled illegal - The Weekend Primetime MSNBC



Donald Trump has suffered a one-two legal punch. First, a judge has blocked the White House's efforts to expedite their deportation efforts. Then, an appeals court has found most of Trump's tariffs are "illegal." Former Acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Katyal, one of the attorney's for the plaintiff in the tariffs case, breaks down the bombshell ruling. - Aired on 08/30/2025.
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'The American Constitution won.' Neal Katyal celebrates after Trump's tariffs ruled illegal - The Weekend Primetime MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 OP
What concerns me is no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #1
Good point, but mayors and governors have made a point that crime in TFG-targeted cities is down Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 #2
Points taken. My original contention remains that the present/current no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #3
You're completely right, TFG's opportunities to appoint justices certainly has paid off for him Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 #4
Celebrating this ruling is like thinking you've got the football game won Jarqui Aug 2025 #5
I certainly agree completely Rhiannon12866 Aug 2025 #6
A lot of dictatorships have lasted 30+ years. Some authoritarian regimes much longer. Jarqui Aug 2025 #8
Too early to celebrate. mwooldri Aug 2025 #7

no_hypocrisy

(55,390 posts)
1. What concerns me is
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:18 AM
Aug 2025

SCOTUS will rule on a tangential point, such as "Well, an "emergency" is subjective and a President can decide what an emergency is at the time of making tariffs, of sending troops into cities, etc.

Rhiannon12866

(258,910 posts)
2. Good point, but mayors and governors have made a point that crime in TFG-targeted cities is down
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:29 AM
Aug 2025

And TFG's tariffs have only made affording goods tougher for the American people.

no_hypocrisy

(55,390 posts)
3. Points taken. My original contention remains that the present/current
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:39 AM
Aug 2025

SCOTUS is interpreting on the level of Lewis Carroll, where there are no strict rules, guidelines, or even logic. It's unraveling legal precedents for decades, perhaps centuries. (I'm just waiting for them to invalidate themselves by overturning Marbury v. Madison and allow POTUS to be the sole interpreter of The Constitution.)

Rhiannon12866

(258,910 posts)
4. You're completely right, TFG's opportunities to appoint justices certainly has paid off for him
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 05:47 AM
Aug 2025

And he already could depend on Thomas and Alito.

Jarqui

(10,925 posts)
5. Celebrating this ruling is like thinking you've got the football game won
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 06:05 AM
Aug 2025

because you're leading a little after the 3rd quarter

SCOTUS is corrupt, messed up or both. They've clearly lost their way.

Going back to Citizen's United, they're a key reason we're in the place we find ourselves today.

Three branches of government can only work when at least one of them functions properly.

We don't have that now.

Can you imagine the Founding Fathers looking at the mess we are in today?

Rhiannon12866

(258,910 posts)
6. I certainly agree completely
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 06:20 AM
Aug 2025

What's happening now in this country is not only frightening, but an anomaly in the last 249 years!!! I have often wondered what history will make of this sad turn of events - assuming that our history is allowed to be accurate...

Jarqui

(10,925 posts)
8. A lot of dictatorships have lasted 30+ years. Some authoritarian regimes much longer.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 06:45 AM
Aug 2025

That is the scary part.
Trump won't last nearly that long but he isn't the one with the real levers on the power. The people who put him in place have the control.

I doubt their efforts will last that long because there are more guns than people in the country and the people will have memories of their freedoms.Sooner than later they will wake up. No amount of media propaganda can overcome that.

It is getting harder and harder to see how this ends without some violence.

mwooldri

(10,827 posts)
7. Too early to celebrate.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 06:33 AM
Aug 2025

He appealed to the Trump Imperial Court. The Appeals court stayed their ruling fully well knowing this would happen.

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