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Rhiannon12866

(258,872 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 01:05 AM Sep 2025

Vanished on the Fourth: The Story of Nory Sontay Ramos and Estela Ramos Baten - MSNBC



On July 4th, honor student and athlete Nory Sontay Ramos and her mother, Estela Ramos Baten, were deported from Los Angeles to Guatemala — the country they had fled in 2016 after gang threats.

Since their deportation, they have been living in hiding, unable to seek medical care for Ramos Baten’s chronic illnesses. On September 8, she died. Her family says the stress, fear, and lack of treatment tied to deportation contributed directly to her death, leaving her children mourning across two countries. - 09/15/2025.

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Vanished on the Fourth: The Story of Nory Sontay Ramos and Estela Ramos Baten - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2025 OP
Trump murdered her just as sure as if he'd shot her on Fifth Avenue. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #1
I hate white people godsentme Sep 2025 #2
This is such a tragedy. Such an awful tragedy. Don't tell me you didn't vote for this. You did. tulipsandroses Sep 2025 #3
Shame Kid Berwyn Sep 2025 #4

Ocelot II

(131,242 posts)
1. Trump murdered her just as sure as if he'd shot her on Fifth Avenue.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 01:18 AM
Sep 2025

And with the same consequences - none.

godsentme

(237 posts)
2. I hate white people
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 01:29 AM
Sep 2025

I've been following Jacob Soboroff's story on Nory. Just f#cking heart breaking. How many more like her are there? Her teacher started a go fund me which is doing well. Over $60,000 with a goal of 100K.
BTW, I'm a privileged white person and I hate these white privileged mfer's that are just fine with treating others with such vile.

tulipsandroses

(8,299 posts)
3. This is such a tragedy. Such an awful tragedy. Don't tell me you didn't vote for this. You did.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 02:16 AM
Sep 2025

All trump voters voted for this.

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