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TexasTowelie

(127,968 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 04:43 PM Tuesday

Breaking: Trump Indicts Political Opponent - Brian Tyler Cohen



The following summary is AI-generated.

Based on the video transcript provided, here are the most important points:

* Alleged Basis of Indictment: Brian and Glenn discuss a reported second indictment of former FBI Director James Comey by the DOJ, allegedly stemming from an Instagram post where he photographed seashells arranged to read "8647," interpreted by prosecutors as a threat to remove the 47th President.

* Vindictive Prosecution Defense: Glenn argues that Comey has a nearly certain defense of "vindictive prosecution," claiming the indictment is a retaliatory move by Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche to avoid being fired like his predecessor, Pam Bondi, for failing to secure previous politically motivated cases.

* Criticism of Grand Jury Process: Brian and Glenn assert that grand juries are easily misled by unethical prosecutors, citing the "unlawful" nature of previous indictments obtained by Lindsey Halligan against Comey and others, and suggesting the current indictment suffers from the same lack of integrity.

* Trivial Nature of the Charge: Glenn describes the charges as "beyond laughable," noting that the phrase "86" has multiple innocent meanings (e.g., restaurant slang for "out of stock" ) and that taking a photo of such a arrangement does not constitute a criminal threat against the President.

* Predicted Dismissal and Acquittal: Drawing parallels to the recent acquittal of Sean Dunn (the "sandwich thrower" ), Glenn predicts a jury would quickly reject these charges and that the case will likely be dismissed early in the legal process.

* Potential for Counter-Litigation: Brian and Glenn suggest that if the case proceeds, Comey may ultimately have grounds for a wrongful prosecution lawsuit against the Trump administration's DOJ leadership for ethical violations and misuse of federal power.
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LetMyPeopleVote

(181,261 posts)
1. MaddowBlog-Comey's second indictment shows the lengths Blanche will go to please Trump
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 04:51 PM
Tuesday

The latest indictment of the former FBI director is ridiculous, but it’s part of an unsubtle pattern from the acting attorney general.

The indefensible second Comey indictment is obviously evidence of a weaponized and corrupted Justice Department.

But it’s also one of many unsubtle steps Todd Blanche has taken lately to delight Trump and try to nail down an AG nomination.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-28T19:39:33.394Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/comeys-second-indictment-shows-the-lengths-blanche-will-go-to-please-trump

When Donald Trump’s Justice Department first indicted former FBI Director James Comey last year, it was a devastating moment for American law enforcement. MS NOW’s Ken Dilanian reported that within the DOJ, many insiders believed it was “among the worst abuses” in the history of the institution. Describing the circumstances as “shocking,” Dilanian added, “It’s hard to overstate how a big a moment this is.”....

In theory, Trump’s DOJ should have been chastened by the condemnations and by the case’s failure. In practice, the shamelessly weaponized department decided to give it another try. MS NOW reported:

The Trump Justice Department has charged former FBI Director James Comey again, following the dismissal of his first indictment due to the illegal appointment of the prosecutor who secured it.

The new indictment involves allegations that Comey made threats against President Donald Trump in a May 2025 social media posting of a picture of shells on the beach that spelled out “8647,” a source familiar with the matter told MS NOW.


I can appreciate why this might seem like an unfortunate attempt at humor, but it’s apparently quite real. While plenty of political figures from both parties have used “86” over the years as a shorthand for rejecting foes, the president and his team argued in apparent seriousness last spring that the former FBI director had used Instagram to call for violence against Trump by way of a seashell-related code.....

Over the course of a few weeks, the Blanche-led DOJ has prosecuted a progressive group the president hates, intensified a politically motivated purge, advocated firing squads as a method of federal execution while slamming Joe Biden in gratuitous ways, intervened in support of Trump’s ballroom crusade and indicted a former aide to Dr. Anthony Fauci (a leading figure on the White House’s enemies list) before indicting Comey (another leading figure on the White House’s enemies list.)

At an official event this week, the acting attorney general offered such sycophantic praise for the president he seemed to be auditioning to star in a Trump campaign ad.

Acting Attorney General Blanche is now doing a campaign-style promo for Trump

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-27T19:42:41.239Z


No one should want to be an attorney general nominee this badly (under Trump, it’s not even an especially good job anyway), but Blanche’s actions are about as subtle as a sledgehammer.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,261 posts)
2. Watts v. United States (1969)-Court said anti-war protester's threat was crude political hyperbole
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 05:22 PM
Tuesday

This case is so stupid that Blanche, Patel and the attorney who signed the indictment need to be disbarred or sanctioned. There is existing SCOTUS authority that this statement is protected by the First Amendment. The SCOTUS opinion dealt with a less ambiguous compared to the 8647 being used here
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/watts-v-united-states/

Court said anti-war protester’s threat was crude political hyperbole
On further appeal, the Supreme Court reversed in a 5-4 per curiam opinion. The majority determined that the federal statute prohibiting threats against the president was constitutional and that true threats receive no First Amendment protection.

However, the majority also determined that Watts’s crude statements were political hyperbole rather than true threats. “What is a threat must be distinguished from what is constitutionally protected speech,” the majority wrote. “The language of the political arena … is often vituperative, abusive, and inexact.”

The Court agreed with Watts’s counsel’s characterization of Watts’s speech as “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President” that did not qualify as a true threat.

Justice William O. Douglas concurred in an opinion that would have gone further than the per curiam majority opinion and invalidated the federal statute. “Suppression of speech as an effective police measure is an old, old device, outlawed by our Constitution,” he concluded. Justice Abe Fortas, joined by John Marshall Harlan, dissented in a very short opinion questioning whether the Court should have taken the case.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,261 posts)
3. MaddowBlog-Trump tries to defend Comey case, says seashell message 'probably' put his life in danger
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 03:07 PM
Thursday

For the first time since the former FBI director’s indictment, the president tried to defend the criminal case. It didn’t go well.

Trump suggested yesterday that Comey’s seashell message “probably” put his life in danger.

Put it this way: When even Troy Nehls — who recently said Trump is “the almost the second coming” — thinks a case is “a stretch,” it’s clear that the White House is out on a limb.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-30T13:11:30.556Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-comey-seashells-charges-defends

Donald Trump has a sizable fan club on Capitol Hill, with many Republicans offering embarrassingly sycophantic support for the president. But if I had to pick the single most unabashed supporter of the president in Congress, it would be Rep. Troy Nehls.....

But asked Wednesday about Trump’s Justice Department indicting James Comey, claiming that the former FBI director used Instagram to call for violence against the president by way of a seashell-related code, Nehls replied, “I think it’s a stretch.”

Not to put too fine a point on this, but when Troy Nehls is willing to say, out loud and in public, that even he is unconvinced by the merits of a ridiculous criminal case against a White House foe, it’s striking evidence that the administration is pushing its luck.

Around the same time the Texan offered his assessment, the president himself made his first public comments on the indictment announced two days earlier. He seemed eager to defend the case on its merits, though his pitch wasn’t exactly persuasive.

BREAKING: President Trump responds to the second indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, saying his life was 'probably' in danger from Comey's 2025 social media post showing shells arranged in a pattern reading  "86 47."

MS NOW (@ms.now) 2026-04-29T19:27:54.842Z


....Putting aside the inconvenient fact that there’s still no evidence of Comey being “dirty,” a variety of Trump allies have used “86” in a colloquial context, even in reference to Joe Biden during the Democrat’s presidency, and none of them has ever faced a federal criminal investigation or been prosecuted by the Justice Department.

The former FBI director’s lawyers made clear Wednesday they’ll defend Comey by arguing that the case is an illegal example of political retribution. I like their chances.

I live in Troy Nehls' district. Nehls is pure scum who is not running this cycle because of pending ethics investigation. Nehl manipulated the filing process by delaying the announcement so that Troy's twin brother is the GOP nominee for this seat. Susan Bankston aka Juanita Jean is a friend who also hates Nehls. I had fun telling Susan about this MaddowBlog post. Susan pointed out to me that Tever Nehls (Troy's twin) lost for sheriff and in other races and hopefully people will hold that against Trever.

The fact that the MaddowBlog had fun with Troy Nehls really made me smile

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,261 posts)
4. The Comey indictment could be upended by this 2015 Supreme Court precedent
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 08:49 PM
Thursday

The high court a decade ago explicitly overturned the legal standard that prosecutors are now citing to charge Comey with threatening President Trump.

The Comey indictment could be upended by this 2015 Supreme Court precedent www.washingtonpost.com/national-sec...

Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd.bsky.social) 2026-05-01T00:24:04.224Z

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/04/30/comey-indictment-supreme-court-precedent

The criminal indictment of former FBI director James B. Comey for allegedly threatening President Donald Trump appears to fall short of a standard articulated by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. in a 2015 opinion, when the Supreme Court pointedly distinguished a genuine threat from mere speech, legal analysts say.

Roberts, along with a majority of the court, ruled in the 2015 case Elonis v. United States that prosecutors seeking to convict someone of sending a dangerous message must prove the person intended to make a violent threat — or at least knew there was a substantial chance it would be viewed as threatening......

The charges focus on a photo that Comey posted last year showing seashells on a beach arranged to spell out “86 47.” Because 86 can signify “to get rid of,” and President Donald Trump is the 47th president, prosecutors say the shells’ arrangement means “a reasonable recipient” would interpret the message as “a serious expression of an intent to do harm” to Trump.

But that language is from an older, lower legal standard, one that the Supreme Court explicitly overruled in the 2015 case. Eight legal experts interviewed for this article said the Comey indictment fails to provide evidence that the former FBI director intended his social media message as a genuine threat to the president.

Under court rules, prosecutors are obligated to shape the language of their charges to conform with the current state of the law......

The indictment lacks an essential element of a true threat crime — mainly that the speaker intended to threaten violence, or acted in conscious disregard of the substantial risk that their communication would be viewed as threatening,” said Cole, a former national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “They don’t allege any of that in the indictment.”....

In 2015, the Supreme Court had another chance to define what constitutes a threat and what is speech protected under the Constitution — and they set the threshold even higher.

In the Elonis case, which centered on a Pennsylvania man who made potentially threatening statements online, the justices concluded that the mindset of the person who made the comment must be considered. It is not enough for the subject of a comment to view it as a threat, they ruled; the person who made it must have intended it that way.

Eight years later, in Counterman v. Colorado, the Supreme Court reaffirmed Elonis and tweaked the definition a bit, saying prosecutors could also prove that the person making the statement understood that there was a substantial risk the comment would viewed as threatening.

The charges laid out in the Comey indictment, legal analysts said, do not allege that this threshold was met. Instead, the indictment cites the legal standard laid out in the Supreme Court’s Watts opinion, one it subsequently overturned......

Prosecutors appeared to nod to the higher standard in the indictment, alleging that Comey “knowingly and willingly” threatened the life of the president. But legal analysts interviewed said that language alone does not meet the legal standard set by the Supreme Court.

I really had fun reading this legal analysis. I quoted the Watts case in some other posts. Here is clear that this indictment is using a standard that the SCOTUS has rejected and that this indictment would fail under the current state of the law as announced by SCOTUS. This indictment was issued in bad faith and will not survive pass a motion to dismiss.

Blanche is ignoring established SCOTUS precedent
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