Trump & Kristi Noem Claim Antifa is as Bad as Hamas, Democrats Stand Their Ground - Lovett or Leave It

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What a week! On Lovett or Leave it, Jon gets into Donald Trump's weird cabinet meeting with Kristi Noem and RFK Jr. saying insane things, ICE violence, the Government shutdown and the Democrats standing up to Trump.

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0:00 - What a week!
10:30 - Ad break
12:13 - What a week continued!

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1. Would they please list the numbers of kidnappings and murders committed by Antifa.

And is this the Antifa of which they speak?

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2. Someone needs to ask these snakes to define ANTIFA

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3. Noem shot a dog.

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4. There is NO organization called Antifa

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6. Thank you, LetMyPeopleVote!

Thanks for posting that.

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5. Should someone point out to them

that if those who oppose fascism are your enemies, you are admitting that you are fascists?

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7. Yep, they are

...............but too dumb to realize it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. The three biggest flaws in Trump designating antifa a 'domestic terrorist organization'

It’s tempting to laugh at a misguided president going after a nonexistent organization, but just because it’s absurd doesn’t mean it not dangerous.

The three biggest flaws in Trump designating antifa a ‘domestic terrorist organization’

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The Republican announced soon after that he’d follow through on this, and this week, he did, in fact, sign an executive order along these lines. NBC News reported:

Trump signed an executive order [on Monday] designating antifa, a decentralized set of extreme left-wing groups, as a ‘domestic terrorist organization.’ ... A White House official said the executive order is a follow-up to a social media post last week in which Trump said antifa would be designated a terrorist organization. The official added that conversations are still happening about what steps, if any, may be taken to review the activities of organizations the administration considers left-wing.

The first serious flaw with this is that the designation doesn’t make a lot of sense: An administration can’t target a domestic terrorist organization if there is no actual organization. Antifa, to the extent that it exists, is made up of loosely affiliated anti-fascist activists. There is no budget. There is no membership list. There are no offices or headquarters. There are no staffers, leaders or board members.

At some level, Trump really ought to understand this: He announced more than five years ago that he was designating antifa as a terrorist organization, and the effort was a counterproductive bust.

The second problem is that the president is trying to use a power he does not have. As The Washington Post noted, “The United States has no legal mechanism for labeling domestic organizations as terrorist groups.” Administrations can label nonstate adversaries overseas as “foreign terrorist organizations,” but there is no domestic equivalent in U.S. law......

Arguably the biggest problem with Trump’s declaration is that it’s vague: It’s not at all clear how the White House intends to go after “antifa,” or who'll even meet the standards for affiliation.

As we discussed last week, if the White House says that antifa members are terrorists — and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as “antifa” affiliates — this can get scary in a hurry as the administration eyes fishing expeditions into progressive donors and activists under the guise of anti-antifa investigations.

Indeed, NOTUS reported this week that the White House’s designation is “causing some groups to worry that they’ll be targeted because they publicly condemn fascism.”