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Well we have different family members and yes several Repubs voted for Obama in the GE ....

guess our family is not as much aligned to a party, sorry they do not always fall in line. Personally I think that is good attribute, otherwise we could just plaster a D or an R on their them from birth.

We have several members that are in their late 80's and broke with the Repubs. Sorry that you seem find that offensive that they broke party lines and 'are dictating to us.'

Please read what you wrote, our family is compromised of both parties and they cross lines when given a reason.

I find it weird when people have a closed mind, sorry but we are not marching in lockstep ... really strange I know.

And several have changed their party affiliation to vote in primaries.

We have weird thinkers in our family, sorry but they are not always going to raise the team flag and I think that is a good thing,

Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:24 AM (0 replies)

When large corporations make a contribution and also pay huge sums for a speech ...

you have to wonder if a 'just cut it out' means anything.

For example the housing bubble had been building for years (at least since 2003) mortgages were approved and promoted to people that should not have been going into so much debt. The real estate index began to turn down in 2005, but the majority of people and the media woke up several years later.

Unfortunately too many people relied upon the "professionals" and bought a home and went into debt. But the people that were selling these products made huge profits by shorting the market and were positioning themselves to scoop up the bargains ... converting home owners to renters and a revenue source. You know who suffered the most, I would say the 'minority' class, although I hate to use that word.

Now theses are very smart people, there are profits to be made on the way up in a bubble and on the way down. But they were very greedy, there is nothing wrong with doing your homework and profiting, but they deliberately deceived borrowers knowing that the bubble would burst. Anyone with a half a clue knew this was coming ... when Obama and his economic advisors came out and backed Bush's plan and essentially said 'who could have known' it was rather pathetic. When he appointed Geithner I termed that the wave 4 bounce in Elliott Wave terms, he was friendly to WS.

So we are now back to the Clinton's and their relationship with WS. Yes you need money to win, but who are you winning for? Are you winning for the people and the future of country or are you winning for your own comfort and legacy.

I wonder

Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:43 AM (1 replies)

Bookmarking for later, thanks! n/t

Posted by slipslidingaway | Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:53 AM (0 replies)

kick - FAIR: according to @WSJ: $18 trillion. Actual cost of Sanders' programs: -$2 trillion

to find later

Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:09 PM (0 replies)

UBS and Obama ...

people can google this for themselves, believe I posted about this back in 2009.

There is a reason why some say there is no difference between an "D" and an "R"

Both parties are beholding to the rich corporate masters on some level, to say that the big money only plays one side of the political coin means they might not always have both eyes open ... trying to be diplomatic


"But UBS stands alone in one rather formidable respect-it was the defendant in the largest offshore tax evasion case in U.S. history, accused of helping wealthy Americans hide their income in secret offshore accounts. To settle a massive investigation, UBS forked over $780 million to the US treasury. This settlement came shortly before Wolf rounded out Obama's golfing party. Given this rather problematical situation, why then would the President choose UBS's Wolf of all people for this honor?

Wolf declined a request for an interview about his relationship with the President, so it was not possible to pose that question to him. This hardly matters, though, for the story goes far beyond Wolf and UBS. It involves Republicans as well as Democrats, the Bush Administration as well as Obama's. More importantly, behind the trivialized golf outing on Martha's Vineyard, lie the interests that increasingly set the course for every administration.


When most people criticize those aspects of government that seem most impervious to the democratic process, they cite the permanency and perceived self-interest of the mandarins of the Washington bureaucracy. But when it comes to real power, an ability to come out ahead no matter which party is in power, it's hard to top certain financial institutions.

UBS is very much a part of that permanent government. Though not a household name in the United States, UBS is a major player in the Beltway game. During the 2008 campaign, while Robert Wolf was courting Democratic hopeful Obama, his UBS cohort, former Senator Phil Gramm, was working the other side of the street. As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee in the 1990s, Gramm, a corporate-friendly Texas Republican, played a key role in the deregulation of the banking industry, an act so central to the nation's financial collapse. Since 2002, Gramm has been UBS Americas' vice chairman. In 2008, he was the leading economics adviser for Obama's opponent, John McCain- and even touted as a possible treasury secretary in a McCain administration.

The bottom line: UBS hedged its bets, and so had an inside track no matter which party took the White House. Thus, when Obama won, it was Wolf who ascended. The new president named the banker-donor to his White House Economic Advisory Board..."

more at link

Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun Sep 13, 2015, 11:16 PM (0 replies)

There was a spontaneous protest at a non-Sanders event and then there was a planned "protest"

at a Clinton event that was published in advance and for which the protestors were too late to clear security.

Call it dishonest or whatever name you want, but they are not the same.

Posted by slipslidingaway | Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:58 PM (0 replies)

^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t

Posted by slipslidingaway | Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:34 PM (0 replies)

No, I think what has been claimed and documented is that the 'disruption' was published in advance,

and that the activists did not allow enough time to clear the security detail which surrounds a former First Lady.

One has to wonder if someone really wants to disrupt an event why speak to a media outlet in advance, have them write a story and then have BLM Boston put it on twitter hours before the event?

And then on top of that arrive late?

Posted by slipslidingaway | Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:21 AM (0 replies)

Implying that Sanders is an AOWM " ...even the arrogant old white men have to face reality..."

great way to continue a discussion.

Posted by slipslidingaway | Mon Aug 17, 2015, 06:36 PM (1 replies)

Advance warning of a planned disruption, note the times below ...

and then the activists were late so they could not get in to the main event.

#BlackLivesMatter Activists Plan to Disrupt Hillary Clinton Event

By Jamil Smith @JamilSmith

Her Keene, NH community forum will focus on substance abuse.

12:02 PM - 11 Aug 2015



"Tuesday, August 11

-10:00AM: Hillary Clinton will attend a town hall meeting at River Valley Community College in Claremont, NH

-2:30PM: Hillary Clinton will hold a community forum on substance abuse at Keene Middle School in Keene, NH"
Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:47 PM (1 replies)
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